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  1. I feel like as a potential replacement for Possessed, a shuttle woodie is pretty good...about equal. But seeing as how it could end up being a replacement for Possessed AND Stinger, it seems to me to be a little bit of a downgrade. I understand Stinger sort of sucked but still think that Possessed+Stinger>one shuttle woodie.

     

    But best case scenario here is them getting the new ride and also keeping Possessed. Hoping for that!

  2. I can't really say I will miss Dragon, but I did like it better than I guess a lot of people did. The loops and first helix were so intense, and even though the ride was rough, I always thought the roughest part was (oddly) the pre-lift hops.

     

    Excited to see what they replace it with! And it will be interesting to see if they decide to build whatever new over the water, or to basically stick to the little strip of land that Dragon did. Dragon Slayer would be a cool name to use, too, seeing as that whole little area of the park is "Dragon Island."

  3. a Raptor would fit just fine on the Tidal Wave spot alone.

     

    Wonder Woman went where Power Surge was, without taking any additional space (and reused some of the queue layout even).

     

    not to say y'all are getting one. . just saying it would easily fit there.

     

    Back in July I said the same thing, a RMC Raptor would fit nicely using RailBlazer's measurements

     

     

    Nice. I didn't know the measurements worked out so well. Tidal Wave was built partially on a bit of a hill, though; I wonder if 6F would pay to flatten it out. Or at least get custom supports or something.

  4. Vortex's lift hill is built on a mountain, how is that topography not appropriate? It's helix is also around a island in the middle of the pond.

     

    Looking at the KI version on Google maps just looks like they plopped it on a piece of flat land with a lot of tree's.... ho hum.

     

    I get what you're saying with the mountain so that's a fair point, but KI's spot for Bat is nowhere at all near flat.

  5. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's a clone of Kings Islands "Bat*

     

    Wow! You are right! Although the supports are vastly different, the track spine joints are literally all in the same spots throughout the entire ride. Can't believe I didn't pick up on that before. I feel like part of the GP sucker crew now lol.

     

    However, Vortex when compared to Bat side by side with numerous POV's, seems way more intense and faster than Bat. Maybe it's just the surroundings, or maybe there are different train sway patterns based on how Canada's Wonderland lets those shock absorbers operate on the train. Because when you put them next to each other the ride time off the chain lift to the brake run is pretty negligible, but maybe that sway and just *slight* couple seconds of time cut on Vortex makes all the difference.

     

     

    Having rode Vortex many times over the years, it is quite forceful and amazing! My favourite place to ride on it is in the back seat as it just pulls you from start to finish. It always draws a line due to its swinging motion and forces that it produces. It never disappoints!

     

    Well, I would say The Bat at Kings Island is a clone of Vortex at Canada's Wonderland since Vortex opened in 1991, two years before The Bat (Top Gun/Flight Deck) had. I've been on both, and I always prefer Vortex due to its location and its overall smoothness and speed. While nearly identical, The Bat at Kings Island seemed a tad slower and slightly uncomfortable when I rode it in 2014 and 2016. It was still quite fun, but not nearly as fun or intense as Vortex. We're quite lucky to have it!

     

    I would agree with you quite a bit anonymouscactus. While Bat was definitely worthy of a re-ride, (not better than Ninja, just falls a bit short of it) I feel like Vortex might actually be one of the best Arrow Suspendeds out there with how intense numerous POV's appear to be.

     

    Learning these types of things is a BIG part of why being a coaster enthusiast is so fun.

     

    Bat also runs with one extra car, which I suppose must be the reason it's not tied for fastest suspended like Vortex is (with SFMM's Ninja). Must slow it down slightly.

     

    Personally, I liked Bat a bit better as a I liked swinging through the woods and its little valley back along the queue area KI has back there. Vortex is obviously great (and is probably better now with YS) but going over a flat lake didn't quite do as much for me.

     

    It's odd that Bat is the clone, seeing as Bat seems much more custom-designed for KI's topography than Vortex is for CW.

  6. I could see Iron Apocalypse being relocated again. I don’t think the park would invest in floorless trains, but having the ride on hand could be too good a deal for 6F to just scrap. Maybe it will be the chain’s new “ride rotation” coaster and bounce around to one or two more parks over the next 10 years. Granted, it’s relatively-poor performance at SFA could be a deterrent, but maybe they’ll just live off the first few seasons every time they move it around.

  7. My friend and I are planning a Great America trip this Saturday (weather...potentially permitting), and I had a question about the Gold Flash Pass we were planning on getting. I've had FP at this park before, but not since Goliath. Are there any funky rules for certain rides? I think Goliath in it's opening year had like a "ride once and done" policy, or it was just available on Platinum or something. The website doesn't seem to show anything that I can see about it, and I wanted to ask.

     

    High Priority: Goliath and Joker (Joker will be new for me!)

    Significantly Lower but Still Kinda High: Justice League and Hangover

     

    Thank you!

  8. Hey CP experts. I'm going to the park for the very first time on Friday, July 20. I have no idea what kind of lines to expect at the coasters. I'm hoping someone can give me advice. I know a lot is weather dependent, so let's assume no rain and average temps.

     

    My kids are not big enough for some of the coasters, and I don't want to overdo it and wear everyone out. So my plan is to do Blue Streak, Gemini, and Magnum before lunch at Chik Fil A, and Cedar Creek, Iron Dragon, and Millenium Force after lunch, with a few flats and a train ride thrown in there. Is this all pretty much do-able by about 4 PM?

     

     

    Edited to add: I don't plan on buying the Fast Lane.

     

    Bump?

     

    I'm still hoping someone will answer this question. I know it's lame to go to CP for just a day and do only six coasters. I have my reasons. I just wanted to ask if this plan is feasible.

     

    I absolutely think this is doable. If you get there at opening (or around then), then I expect you can do Blue Streak, Gemini, and Magnum probably within an hour! Not major lines on those coasters in all my experience, but even if the wait is a little more than usual, you are ABSOLUTELY going to have some free time between these coasters and lunch. You would be able to throw in a few more rides you want to do in the morning instead (Millennium, possibly? Or Mine Ride back by Chik Fil A).

     

    You'll be able to clean up any coasters/rides you didn't get to in the afternoon, and probably still have significant time before 4 to do some other rides, if that's what you want.

  9. Oh, it’s absolutely allowed. In fact, I’m sure they welcome it so now people don’t take up Cedar Point shores parking spaces when they’re not really going there. Just walk along the fence by Gatekeeper (there’s a new marked pedestrian area) and under the big “Boardwalk” arch.

     

    It’s a really nice walk. They did a great job with that entire area.

    That’s exactly what we did this morning after staying at the express hotel. Parked the car around 8.30 and walked the new boardwalk.

    Picked up our Starbucks coffee along the way @breakers and waited about 10 minutes at the Magnum entrance with a lot of other people.

    Watched the running when the gates opened which was fun to see but didn’t care to do the same( FL+ was already planned for today).

     

     

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    Fantastic tips! Thanks. Starbucks is a nice plus, too.

  10. Hey guys, I'm planning a CP trip in two weeks. Thinking of heading there on a Sunday hoping to get a slightly less busy park. Thing is, it's been a few years since I've worked there, and even more since I've been a guest. So I have some questions, if anyone knows the answers that would be great!

     

    1) Definitely getting FL+. I am thinking of booking the Express Hotel. Is there an option to buy FL+ in the same swoop online as booking the hotel room/park ticket passage? Or is it done separately online and/or at the park?

     

    2) I am not sure how the new Boardwalk entrance works...is it possible to drive from the Express Hotel before 9, park, then walk through the Boardwalk Entrance over to the Resort Entrance by Magnum? I have done early entry several times but I usually waited at the main gate. I'm not even sure if it's allowed to go back to the Breakers/resort area pre-opening if you're not an on-Point guest, even if the new Boardwalk entrance now makes it possible. I did the Marina entrance once though, and that was a little bit helpful.

     

    Any help would be great! Super excited to ride SV (and Rougarou and Valravn) for the first time. Thanks!

  11. ^ I actually had a question somewhat related to that. Is there anything actually wrong/different about Green Lantern that makes it behave so much worse than its European cousins? Or is it only the crappy way it's run (and modifications due to being in California) that makes it so bad?

     

    I've never been on it (or ridden a ZacSpin), but am curious if it's entirely the state and the park screwing the ride up.

  12. The other thing to bear in mind is how long this coaster was in the works and planning stage. This coaster went through some other themes and different opening dates. I don't know the industry at all but i'm curious, could it have been a case that when the park brought the ride agreed the layout etc. that the new vest style trains weren't available? I'd imagine trains size e.g. 8 vs 10 seats, restraints, look, and how many would be part of the signing on the dotted line.

     

    I'm also still curious about that second drop. It looks like a steep drop compared to a vertical one. Is it the same on the other coasters?

     

    I thought that Griffon and Sheikra’s second drops weren’t quite vertical. (Not sure about Valravn’s). But I do think that their second drops are steeper than this new one. Maybe a minor design change for some reason? Does that drop maybe not go as deep as Griffon’s?

  13. I am 100% for Vortex getting converted because it would go from a terrible coaster to a moderately fun ride.

     

    Eh...I think it would lessen the experience. Making it floorless would be fine, and it would still be fun, but Vortex isn't as bad as some other standups (IMO). Sure, many people would be happy with it floorlessified, but I think it would lose its uniqueness in the process.

     

    At the rate Cedar Fair is going though, I would not at all be surprised to see it converted eventually.

  14. For what it's worth, I mentioned the Boss changes to several friends who, while not exactly what I'd consider enthusiasts on the level of most of us that post here, are pass holders and go with semi-regularity a few times a year and each one of them was disappointed as they enjoyed the helix.

     

    Same here. All the friends I've been to SFStL over the years with were disappointed (in a non-enthusiast way), as they all thought the helix was a highlight of the ride. We all thought it was rough, too, don't get me wrong. But it was a tolerable level of rough given the intensity. Rough with purpose! Better than pointless, boring, meandering rough.

  15. ^ I totally get where you're coming from, because it certainly wasn't smooth! But it was intense, and really made an impact before the brakes. It really went all out at the end, and I am going to miss that. Few rides have that kind of sustained intensity. I'm glad I got to ride it again finally this past summer.

     

    I wonder if the double-up is on the chopping block as well? Looks like it could be.

  16. The helix was one of my favorite parts of the ride.

     

    I haven't been on the RMC train for The Boss, but I am starting to see the value now. The helix probably wouldn't have made it into an RMC conversion anyway, so now they could just convert it, keep the drops as is, add some inversions and hops, and the helix is conveniently already gone. That's probably preferable to a watered-down woodie, although I'll give the replacement turn a chance, I suppose. Bummer decision.

  17. ^ I always made myself ride Wild Arctic because I really liked the animal exhibit (walrus for the win!) and I felt bad for the animals because I felt like no one ever saw them. (At least whenever I went it seemed deserted back there.). And I know you can go back to the animals without riding the ride, but idk. I liked Wild Arctic well enough. It desperately does need an update, and I hope they revamp it instead of just ripping it out.

  18. I rode Timberwolf in 2012. First ride of the day, I believe. I didn't hate it. I thought the layout was okay and while it was rough, it didn't seem THAT rough to me. Parents hated it though; bad first ride of the day for them.

     

    The helix didn't stand out to me too much. I don't remember too excessive roughness, and it was fun at first but it just went on for too long. And it really divided the ride into two distinct halves. So while the loss of ride length is a shame, the new turn looks great in that the whole ride will seem cohesive now, and the second half should REALLY fly, and that is exciting. It will be a unique surprise too, seeing as the other two major turns on the ride are high, flat turns. Good move by WoF!

  19. Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive.

    Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests.

     

    From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts.

     

    Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them.

     

    That’s very cool! I never noticed the other new-train ones. I didn’t think there were even 5!

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