So is Hades as bad as our own bone rattler TimberWolf at WOF here in KC,it used to be pretty decent now it's just about unrideable as well, CedarFair needs to rip it out and replace it now that prowler rules the park. I totally forgot you guys were visiting us here in KC for a brief spell. I would have ventured out to meet Robb and Elissa and the gang. I've been following you all for YEARS!! And unfortunatley trying to sync up my schedule with your trips never seems to work out. Soon maybe. Sending you all lots of love from KC!!