The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Pretty sure California law says that when an amusement device is modified to be fitted with OTSR's it cannot operate again without them regardless of its operation history.

Nope. Just needs a restraint that A: Works and B: Approved by the manufacturer. This is why Disney gets away with those minimal restraints on their rides. Make your own rides, you get total say so over them.

I'm not bothered by the OTSRs. I didn't think S:TE was "that" great (though certainly mildly enjoyable), so I doubt the change will feel like a great loss. If they're necessary for the backwards launch anyway, it's a small price to pay if they're required for a forward launch as well.

"Are you not going to WCB this year?" (Sir Clinksalot)

Not the SFMM part. I have a family wedding out in the San Gabriel Valley that day, and I don't think I could do both. But I might make it to the Knott's part.

Eric

^^^ not 100% and I can't vouch for the accuracy of the original statement but I heard somewhere on this forum or at a WCB that Burkhardt said the reason the OTSR's still exist on Revolution is because once they were installed (early 90s) that set the minimum acceptable restraint apparatus or some crap like that, and that we can dash all hopes of a Revy running without them. Maybe someone else here can clarify?

some crap like that,

Sounds like Burkhart to me.

For what seems like the 10,000th time: THERE IS NO LAW IN CALIFORNIA MANDATING OTSR'S.

Tim Burkhart was full of crap at WCB.

Ah, well now we have a source-backed, cited, and apparently definitive answer. I guess we can put this one to bed now.

I think they might keep the cars and use them again (lab bar ones). They want people to once again talk about how scary the ride is (backwards or forwards) and the only way the ride can be *scary* facing forward is with the lap bars.

For what seems like the 10,000th time: THERE IS NO LAW IN CALIFORNIA MANDATING OTSR'S.

 

Tim Burkhart was full of crap at WCB.

But he ( Burkhart ) never said anything of the sort. He said it was Six Flags decision to add the OTSR to Revolution, and that the ride can no longer operate any other way, period. It has nothing to do with any law, and he never even hinted that was the case.

Yay I'm so excited that Superman is going to be open for WCB!! March 19th isn't coming fast enough

Didn't the LA times already report that after one month of re-opening they will continue to race both sides one forwards and one backwards?

^ The Times blog did say something about the ride returning one track to forward operation at some point, but I don't recall if they gave any specific timeframe for doing so.

Eric

^ The Times blog did say something about the ride returning one track to forward operation at some point, but I don't recall if they gave any specific timeframe for doing so.

 

Eric

i recall one moth.

The article posted that they would return one side forward when the hype died down, within six months or so....with what they said...

Oh lol woops

What do you guys think of the new logo?

The streamlined trains, which are expected to arrive at the Valencia amusement park this week...

Not a bad logo, it could be worse. But I think the ride should just be called Superman to be honest.

As for the restraints on Revolution, there is no law and they could certainly be updated to have only lap bars. But the park hasn't ever, and probably never will, be willing to pay to retrofit them just for the issue of rider comfort or to please the enthusiasts.

I know, the ride would be much better and you wouldn't risk whacking your ears. But they've got bigger fish to fry.

But the park hasn't ever, and probably never will, be willing to pay to retrofit them just for the issue of rider comfort or to please the enthusiasts.

 

I know, the ride would be much better and you wouldn't risk whacking your ears. But they've got bigger fish to fry.

I believe it is a convincing argument that the time and money that it takes Magic Mountain to switch Revolution's trains back to original form of single lapbar and seatbelt would be out weighed by the increase in ridership and re-ridership among guests. Montezooma's Revenge would probably suck if it had Revolution's current setup. Thank you Knott's for keeping it original.

Officially confirmed Superman Date:

From Facebook:

Six Flags Magic Mountain

Just announced ... SUPERMAN: Escape from Krypton opens March 19th! 100 mph backwards - ARE YOU IN?

Looks like I'll be riding this and the Australia one the same week! Hmm, I wonder which one will be better! This is really tough...I think most people know my feelings on SFMM and Australia!?!?

Sssssuperman...will be open...

*Joygasm*

Why the need for the OTSR like that anyhow? SDL doesn't use them, neither do the shuttle loops. Mindbender in the WEM has a completely different version doesn't it?

Maybe i'm with the minority, or maybe i AM the minority, but i've never had a bad ride revolution! I think the ride might be more fun with out the OTSRs and just lap bars. Besides no head banging, did the lap bars make it a better ride?

BTW, kudos to the new TPR sign on top!

This is very much making me want to come out to WCB. Hmmmm...

ARE YOU IN?

I can't wait for WCB & ride S: EFK before the GP! Sorry GP! Just wait until night ERT!

In the words of Ace Of Spades.

*Joygasm*

^ yeah. this.

Everyone going to WCB 2011 are in for a real treat! Props to SFMM for always giving the people who attend WCB something very special to look forward to. It seems like every year WCB at SFMM gets better and better! Im very jealous of everyone that is attending and bummed I cant make it.