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I’m happy to announce I’ve accepted an offer for a Ride Operator position at Cedar Point for the 2019 season. I’ll be starting in early June and I’m excited to get to work at America’s Roller Coast.

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This reads like a version of what Knott's did with their Ghost Town a couple of years ago. Create "stories" around the town and have the characters interacting with guests, using games, 'missions,' and such. Worked so well they did it again last year, and are I believe doing it again this summer?

 

Glad to see this kind of interactive with LIVE characters area, that the whole family can enjoy.

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Random and pure educated speculation... my money is on a mammoth B&M flyer in the center of the park come 2021, included with an innovative station setup. I've ruled out an Infinity and GCI with myself. I've got my reasons and I can't convince myself otherwise. I want to hear everyone else's official bets.

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Random and pure educated speculation... my money is on a mammoth B&M flyer in the center of the park come 2021, included with an innovative station setup. I've ruled out an Infinity and GCI with myself. I've got my reasons and I can't convince myself otherwise. I want to hear everyone else's official bets.

500+ Foot, Full Circuit Strata or GTFO!

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Random and pure educated speculation... my money is on a mammoth B&M flyer in the center of the park come 2021, included with an innovative station setup. I've ruled out an Infinity and GCI with myself. I've got my reasons and I can't convince myself otherwise. I want to hear everyone else's official bets.

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It won’t be a flyer. Unless the new regime goes against what Dick Kinzel once said, they won’t install a flyer. I can’t find the article but it was something about a flyer being too gimmicky. He also said they wouldn’t install an Intamin woodie. But, times and management have changed.

 

I think a huge CGI is most likely. Possibly a launched Infinity if Hangtime proves reliable and popular, which it appears to be. Or a Mack, after Copperhead Strike proves a good investment.

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It won’t be a flyer. Unless the new regime goes against what Dick Kinzel once said, they won’t install a flyer. I can’t find the article but it was something about a flyer being too gimmicky. He also said they wouldn’t install an Intamin woodie. But, times and management have changed.

 

B&M Flyers are too gimmicky for Cedar Fair. They prefer to focus on Mystical mystery sheds that blast Bonnie Tyler songs at you while you sit on the brake run and shattering 10 totally-not-bullsh*t world records with B&M dive machines.

 

PS: Dick Kinzel hasn't been the CEO of Cedar Fair in like seven years. You'll probably end up being right for the wrong reasons as they just implied on their latest conference call that the major coaster additions will likely slow down but I guarantee that nobody currently running the company cares what Dick Kinzel supposedly said about flying coasters.

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^My thoughts exactly. I don't see how a big, awesome B&M Flyer is more gimmicky than some of the stuff Cedar Fair has done recently as you mentioned.

 

Cedar Point or not, I really hope we see another big B&M Flyer come to the US. I feel like there is so much potential for crazy elements and layouts on those coasters that really only Flying Dinosaur has begun to explore.

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Plus, a well-operated B&M Flying coaster is a capacity monster, just like Cedar Point likes them.

 

Phantasialand is going to build a flying coaster prototype by Vekoma that could potentially start a comeback of said model? Personally, I really like these rides, and GPs always love the idea of flying (just look how freaked out they are at the station when the seats tilt backwards into flying position).

 

I think given the good relationship that Cedar Fair has with B&M, and given CP's coaster portfolio, a nice intense B&M Flying coaster could be the icing on the cake on Cedar Point's coaster line-up.

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they really could use a good dark ride tho. . .maybe something along the lines of Black Diamond at Knoebel's, or the Mine Train at Knott's. . . so they could call it a "coaster", to go with the "America's Roller Coast" tagline.

 

hell, they call Pipe Scream a coaster, so I'm hoping for a large Dark Ride (in the current location of the Arcade)

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Cedar Point needs indoor attractions yesterday, because when it rains, it's a goddamned mess. Not just one, but multiple attractions: flying theaters, "immersive tunnels", dark rides, simulators, shooter games like the Plants vs. Zombies or Mass Effect games, the whole 9 yards. The more of it, the better. They've been getting an earful on the conference calls about this for awhile too. There's no excuses that they can't be in some frame aware.

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You'll probably end up being right for the wrong reasons as they just implied on their latest conference call that the major coaster additions will likely slow down but I guarantee that nobody currently running the company cares what Dick Kinzel supposedly said about flying coasters.

I get that they need to install more indoor attractions, but slowing down major coaster additions sounds bad for me.

Although being from Germany, we visit the US every year because of their massive coaster additions (Fury, Leviathan, Valravn, Steel Vengeance,....).

What do you guys think does "slowing down" in Cedar Fair style mean? Only one big coaster every few years for the whole chain, more midsize coasters?

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You'll probably end up being right for the wrong reasons as they just implied on their latest conference call that the major coaster additions will likely slow down but I guarantee that nobody currently running the company cares what Dick Kinzel supposedly said about flying coasters.

I get that they need to install more indoor attractions, but slowing down major coaster additions sounds bad for me.

Although being from Germany, we visit the US every year because of their massive coaster additions (Fury, Leviathan, Valravn, Steel Vengeance,....).

What do you guys think does "slowing down" in Cedar Fair style mean? Only one big coaster every few years for the whole chain, more midsize coasters?

 

If you look at the stretch of 2004-2012, Cedar Point built one roller coaster for 9 seasons of operation (Maverick). They built flat rides (SkyHawk, MaxAir, Windseeker), a new log Flume (Shoot The Rapids), kids rides, splash bucket, racing water slides, and Dinosaurs Alive.

 

JMHO, but what's planned for 2019 reminds me of their new for 2009 addition of Starlight Experience (literally lights in the Frontier Trail) That year there was an officially recognized dip of 10% in attendance. But I could be wrong, of course.

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