Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby DavidB » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:49 pm

This expanded boardwalk thing feels like an extension of the stuff the park has been incorporating into projects for the last few years now. They have been redoing/improving the entry areas to the park starting with the main gate for GateKeeper, the marina gate for Valravn, and the Magnum gate when doing the work for CP Shores. It seems like they are working to enhance the "first impression" guests get when coming into the park. This boardwalk will provide a fresh, new way for people to park in the main lot and access the beach, entrances along the lake, restaurants at Breakers etc..

In fact, the Gatekeeper plaza looks more like an entrance from the beach than just a normal ride area; maybe it was part of the long term plan for that to be an entrance area from the boardwalk. I know it seems redundant with the Windseeker entrance there, but it really has that appearance. I'm very interested to see what the extent of the boardwalk project is!

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby DILinator » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm

PKI Jizzman wrote:I love this quote from Ouimet regarding Fast Lane:

...the revenue from the pass that allows Cedar Point and other parks to continue to build bigger and better rides.

"You have to realize that those people are paying for Steel Vengeance," he said, referencing the massive new roller coaster that is under construction at Cedar Point.

Next time you're FL'ing for Steel Vengeance just smile, wave, and say "you're welcome" :p

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby El Toro_Ryan » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:19 pm

coasterbill wrote:Yeah I would expect Steel Vengeance to have perfectly average capacity. I'm sure they'll have a great crew so with 24 passenger trains I'd assume they'd realistically be able to put through between 1,000 and 1,300 people per hour depending on the hour. The former could be achieved with 90 second dispatch times (even assuming each train has a few empty seats). To achieve the latter you would need to run with about 60 second dispatch times which is expecting a lot with a coaster type that has seatbelts, lap bars and is generally pretty restrictive and will likely have some walks of shame but I don't think it's totally outside the realm of possibility depending on the crew.

It won't be Gatekeeper but it won't be Maverick either. It'll be perfectly average.

^You right. Steel Vengeance should easily eat through the same amount of rider's as Valravn. They both have the same theoretical capacity at 1,200 rph but Steel Vengeance does not have the floors to deal with. Valravn did 1.6 million riders last year and averages 1,000+ rph so I think Steel Vengeance will be fine.

And when I rode Twisted Colossus earlier in the year, I raced on both laps on almost every ride I took. So if Magic Mountain can run their 3 train RMC nicely, I'm sure Cedar Point will handle Steel Vengeance even better.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby SbSteveZ » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Quick Platinum Pass question(s). I purchased my pass a couple months ago and I was able to answer my own questions on FunPix and Parking at other parks but the one thing I couldn’t find much on was the bring-a-friend deals. Are they valid at all CF parks? Is there a limit to how many times you can “bring a friend”? And is there a limit to how many friends you can bring at once?

Sorry if I seem ignorant but I’m used to Darien Lake’s older system where you’re given 3 or 4 extra passes and that’s all you get.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:47 am

^ Yes, bring a friend deals are valid at all CF parks. I used it last year with my Platinum Pass from Worlds of Fun to get my family into Valleyfair at a discount.

There are certain days they're valid, and these vary by park. Check the individual park's website under season pass discounts. Basically CF treats a Platinum Pass the same as having the highest tier season pass to every park. So for example, if you have a Platinum Pass from any CF park, Valleyfair will give you whatever a Valleyfair Gold Pass holder would get.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby The Great Zo » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:48 am

More new info from Cedar Point.

Sandcastle Suites and the Breakwater Cafe are gone. The All-Wheels / Extreme Sports stadium is also gone. Future details coming later.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby phillies2 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:50 am


Tony's new Blog entry where it is declared that the sandcastle suites are closing for the last time and being demolished with the adjacent cafe. Also the Aquatic Stadium will also be going with no info of what will happen with All Wheels Extreme. Exciting news for expansion in 18'. I can't wait to find out more

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby CP Maverick » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:04 pm

posted by Tony Clark on October 24, 2017

The only constant is change. And we have ch-ch-ch-changes to tell you about before we wrap things up for 2017.

Every now and then, we have to move things around or remove them completely in order to look to the future, and there are two major projects to tell you about.

First, our Sandcastle Suites Hotel, located at the tip of the Cedar Point Peninsula, is now closed. For good. As in, the last guests (ever) checked out this past Sunday morning.

Over the winter, the property will be demolished, along with the Breakwater Café building adjacent to it.

Second, the Extreme Sports Stadium (also referred to as the former Aquatic Stadium), located near Wicked Twister, will also be dismantled over the off-season.

If you’re curious about the “All Wheels Extreme” show that called this venue home, we’ll have more on our entire entertainment lineup for 2018 as we get into the new year. Stay tuned.

Third, we’re doing a little expanding along the beach. The Cedar Point Boardwalk, which currently runs from Sandcastle Suites, down the beach, in front of Hotel Breakers and stops right near WindSeeker, will be expanded so that it reaches to, and connects with, the main parking lot.

This will provide some great direct access to the famous Cedar Point Beach, our waterfront activities like parasail and jet ski, and of course, Cedar Point Shores Waterpark. You'll finally be able to take a stroll and enjoy the one-of-a-kind waterfront views.

Obviously, you now have questions. There aren’t many details to share right now, but these things are changing for the good of the order - future development at the park. More info will surface as we approach our 2018 summer season!

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This is exciting. We kind of expected Sandcastle to come down with the Breakers expansion. That's prime property up there. I'd love to see something like "Lighthouse Point Lodge" go up there and take advantage of the lakefront.
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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:50 pm

Wow. Sandcastle Suites and Breakwater Café are sitting on some incredible real estate. I would expect them to be replaced with some ridiculously nice and expensive new lodging options ASAP. :lol:

The timing is strange though. Given their absurd crowd levels this time of year I'm suprised the hotel will be closed for the final weekend. I'm sure if the demand was there at all that wouldn't be the case and it's pretty shocking that it wouldn't be during one of the busiest weekends of the year.

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Re: Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

Postby PKI Jizzman » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:05 pm

I definitely never set foot in that stadium because I didn't know it existed. I guess I was too distracted by the non existent line at Wicked Twister to notice it? Uhhh hell yeah for all of these non-ride related announcements lately! I'm really excited about the future of the boardwalk and the potential of the sandcastle suites/stadium area. Seems like they're really focusing on living up to the resort moniker.

I'd have no issue persuading a group of non-theme park focused friends to join in on a Cedar Point trip with the option to go to Put in Bay + added activities around the Point. I'm sure you wouldn't really be able to entertain yourself on the outside of the park for the entire day, but maybe that's their end goal. Go for it, CP.
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