Athletekim wrote:Needless to say that the 3 hours we spent on the bunny hills we were not able to do our toe turns and just fell on our faces instead.
Toe Turns are the hardest thing for a beginner. It would be pretty amazing if you were able to do toe side turns and link turns in 3 hours.
That really doesn't sound ideal for lessons, but really when it comes down to it it's more just trying over and over again than someone telling you what to do and then you'll be able to do it.
I mean I skied for a long time, but I have never taken snowbaord lessons. I have 'taught' a number of people though and really it's more about knowing a few key things and then just getting up there and trying until you figure it out. Like STR8FXXXINEDGE said, snowboarding is much easier with some speed. I laugh every time I go by the bunny slope and see all the people trying to make turns while hardly moving. Keeping your balance and making a turn like that is super super hard for a beginner to do. Basically I just take people to the bunny hill for one or 2 runs to get aware of their edges and show them how to stop, then I'll take them to a small hill where they can practice sliding with one foot in so they don't fall getting off the chair. After that its pretty much just them trying to do it until they get it themselves and helping them out if they are doing something obviously wrong. Then later on we can go back to the bunny hill and laugh at the people trying to balance on a knife edge while standing still.
As far as keeping on an edge at all times, boards are pretty forgiving nowadays when it comes to that. Most snowboards now are reverse camber and have raised contract points which makes it a bit less easy to catch an edge. contact points are the widest part of the snowboard. Basically where the orange and yellow meet in this picture.
In the old days (pretty much just like 5 years ago) almost all snowboard were positive camber, which means if the board was set down on a flat surface only the contract points would be touching. Now most boards are opposite and only the middle is touching (though there are all kinds of hybrids and other crap. The Burton rental boards are actually completely flat). It makes it much easier to keep the board flat and not catch a tip. I always tell beginners to keep their board perfectly flat when getting off the lift. Once they get down the ramp to a flat part they might start to spin around but at that point they can usually just hop off onto their foot. One you get better though and start going fast or over bumps its a pretty good idea to always keep on an edge because it's not worth risking it and it will really really hurt. I Ride a board that is completely flat between the feet with raised tips and I pretty much only have the board flat when sliding into the lift line or getting off the chair (plus on rails n stuff). There are more times where I would be able to but since I started snowboarding on positive camber better judgement tells me not to.
You can read more about reverse camber here in the banana technology section.
I just came back from a snowboarding trip at Mammoth Mountain last night. I was sore today from boarding two straight days in a row from 9AM to 4PM but it was so worth it! I have been to about half a dozen places in Lake Tahoe over the last several years but this was my first time going to Mammoth (in the winter) and I really enjoyed it. I really liked the vibe of the place. I may be alternating Lake Tahoe with Mammoth on my yearly/bi-yearly snow trips.
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I learned how to ski about 15 years ago and almost every season since then I've gone for at least a couple days. In recent years, my dad and I have often done one long trip per season, one or two weekend trips, and depending on snow conditions a handful of days at the local ski areas. I generally ski blue runs and groomed black runs, and enjoy skiing in a majority of conditions. So far, I've been to every major ski area in California and Utah, as well as the six Southern California ski areas (Bear Mountain Resort, Mountain High Resort, Mt. Baldy, Mt. Waterman Ski Area, Snow Summit Mountain Resort, and Snow Valley Ski Resort), Las Vegas Ski and Snowboard Resort, Brian Head Resort, Eagle Point Ski Area, and Sundance Resort.
For this year's big ski trip, we spent a week in Utah from December 30th to Jaunary 5th. During this time, we skied six days at six different ski areas (Powder Mountain, Snowbasin, Canyons Resort, Park City Mountain Resort, Snowbird Ski and Summer Resort, and Eagle Point Ski Area). It was a great trip, tiring but much better conditions than our previous Utah trips. I plan to post a trip report in the near future of our trip (probably the week after next).
Top 5 Steel: Bizarro (SFNE), Nitro, Apollo's Chariot, Maverick, Banshee Top 5 Wood: Boulder Dash, El Toro, Thunderhead, Gold Striker, Lightning Racer Top 3 Parks: Holiday World, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, Cedar Point TPR Trips: IntimidaTour 2010, North East Trip 2011, LeviaTHON 2012, Mini Tours 2014 (New Hotness & East Coast)
I absolutely love snowboarding! I've been snowboarding for 23 years now! Man, I'm old. The first day I went, I broke my wrist in about one hour. My instructor was regular and I was goofy foot. For her, toe turns were much easier, so she had me start out trying toe turns on a steep hill of pure ice. Yeah, didn't work very well. After that my dad just taught me and even after just riding for one hour and breaking my wrist I never went skiing again!
I just wish it wasn't so expensive! It's as much or more than a day at Disneyland. I used to get Season Passes, but besides not having any money, the last time I got one we had a terrible season and it wasn't worth it anymore to take a chance that the season would be good. Now I just go on the cheaper days and to cheaper places.
I do want to try a race 'track' one of these days. Not to participate in a race, but just see how fast I could go. I've topped out at 70 mph on my GPS, and it was a snowy day so I'd really like to see how I'd do on a real track in good weather.
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In a somewhat related note, I have decided to trick out the wooden deck on the back of my house to a snow skiing theme. Since the deck is elevated, I need a ski lift chair to hang from underneath. I love grilling out there during the warmer months!
I ride camber, with a lot of pop. Bombing those double blacks gets interesting, as its ride is a little less forgiving. Anyways, I figured for anybody interested, I recently posted my most recent edit from Blue Mountain in PA. Click Here for one of my best videos yet!
I won't stop riding roller coasters when I get old. I'll get old when I stop riding roller coasters!
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