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Postby dandaman » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:02 am

Carnage wrote:Clear as mud? :P


Well, I kinda get it.

Let's call it "clear as Lake Erie water".

Not to mention if Satan, er, Gary Bettman...


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Postby Movieguy » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:21 am

Here's the quandry with the NHL today...it's true that they can't seem to stop giving teams to Southern cities that don't care about Hockey, and it's no boost to attendance or viewership...on the other hand though, they can't really stay where they have been, because as sad as it is for me to say, the North is dying.

People keep leaving because they're sick of the cold, and companies keep leaving because of the rising taxes, taking jobs with them, and the only solution Northern leaders can come up with is to keep raising taxes. NHL teams can barely afford to exist in a lot of these cities even more.

America today is all about the South, and everyone has to adapt, even the NHL.
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Postby BeemerBoy » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:49 am

^ While I agree with most of what you posted, I truly feel that the biggest mistake the league ever made was trying to compete with the other "Big 3" sports on the same level. The NHL, and hockey in general, will ALWAYS be a niche sport compared to football, baseball, and basketball. For starters, it doesn't translate well to television. Secondly, it's expensive both to play and to attend an NHL game. While the southern cities which received teams initially will support them, the attention will undoubtedly turn to other avenues if their teams don't continue to produce Cup-worthy teams.

That was never the case in northern hockey towns. Before expansion watered down the talent pool, and long-established teams including the original 6 moved into new buildings, sellouts were the norm for most popular northern cities and Canadian teams.....regardless of their record. Sure, there were some exceptions, but for the most part, it was a hardcore regional thing that thrived on the "small market" viewership from Hockey Night in Canada, ESPN, etc.

In comes Satan (Bettman) from the NBA, and immediately he thinks he can bring the marketable NBA mentality to professional hockey. What followed was cities stealing teams from Canada, glowing pucks, horrid "alternate" sweaters, cheerleaders (yes, Tampa started that crap), T-shirts being launched into the stands to stimulate families, and escalating ticket prices. Naturally, that lead to agents and players demanding more, labor disputes, a tainted half-season Cup victory for New Jersey, and the ultimate crime of one whole season lost to greed.

If the league had just stayed in their element, and not tried to think they'd be as big a draw nationally as the "Big 3," then I'd still be looking forward to watching several games a week on ESPN with their great coverage. Thanks again, Gary. :devil:
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Postby Movieguy » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:29 am

I think you're right, now that I consider things more carefully...Hockey was always a niche sport at best, and it was foolish to even try to compete with other sports on their level...hopefully Betman will get the boot at some point, and a new guy will come in with the good sense to scale things back a little.

America's TV sports coverage is bloated today anyway...I think Hockey always had most of its appeal as a low profile sport.
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Postby Dailey Enterprizes » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:12 pm

I love the Penguins, I could never see too much of Sidney and the Penguins... :lover:

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Postby jsahockey09 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:36 pm

I love hockey and the Penguins! Their my home team. However it's only every once in a while I get sick of the hype surrounding Crosby just because their are so many other talented players on our team such as Fleury( my favorite), Armstrong(who I consider my cousin just because he has the same last name as me), Whitney, and others.

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Postby bulldogmom » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:06 pm

Good video- I even liked the music. No question Kovalev is a great player- his stats are impressive, and his puck-handling is great.
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Postby Carnage » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:19 pm

Dailey Enterprizes wrote:I love the Penguins, I could never see too much of Sidney and the Penguins... :lover:


It's a shame though that the team might not even stay in Pittsburgh. As time passes the teams future in Pittsburgh starts to get bleaker and bleaker.

As much as Bettman ruined the league with expansion, I don't think he'd be foolish enough to go that route again.

The league is only now getting back onto a semi-stable footing. The owners aren't going to go with expansion again.

They should start moving some teams out of the south and up north where they belong. Winnipeg deserves to have an NHL team more than Phoenix,Atlanta, Tampa, etc.
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Postby Bubba Z » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:58 am

I was so happy when we got Forsberg but he never played as well here with all his injuries. I hate the pens but Crosby is a talented kid and I'm glad Mario wants to keep the team in Pittsburgh. The deal they could of had in Kansas city tells you they aren't going anywhere soon. OK maybe Oklahoma unless Ed Rendell can help figure something out. The only thing left in Philly to root for is a #1 draft pick. Somehow they will mess that up too.

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Postby Carnage » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:08 am

Bubba Z wrote: I'm glad Mario wants to keep the team in Pittsburgh. The deal they could of had in Kansas city tells you they aren't going anywhere soon.


I wouldn't be so sure about that.

After the city dropped the ball on th arena deal Mario stated he was interested in moving the team.

That franchise is still on very thin ice.
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