Too Fast For Comfort wrote: If you see 30 minute lines for Kumba or Montu, you know that its a very crowded day. Usually in my experience Kumba is an absolute walk-on 90% of the day, and the Montu line moves very fast if there even is one.
When I was about to leave on Saturday, Kumba was pretty close to a walk-on BUT Montu was 45 minutes. Hit-or-miss, really.
Yeah, Kumba will never have a longer line than Montu -- Kumba is tucked away in the back of the park, and hard to see if you're not looking for it, while Montu is the first thing you see when you're coming in from the parking lot. But they're both 32 person 2-3 train coasters, so if the crowds are manageable it doesn't take much for them both to be walk-ons. But if Montu is a near walk-on or walk-on, you can guarantee that Kumba will be too -- and there's a chance that the front will be a walk-on for Kumba too. So that's why I suggest that you don't do Kumba or Montu until you've exhausted all of the other rides that might get lines that day if you made rope drop. Once Tigris opens, the strategy will get pretty interesting. You'll need to hit Tigris at rope drop, but you'll have to figure out how to get to Cheetah Hunt at some point too. Then once RMC Gwazi opens, the game theory will get even more complex.
Complex? He's probably going on a weekday in January. There's nothing complex about this. Every single thing will have a 5 minute wait or less except for Cheetah Hunt, maybe Cobra's Curse and Stanley Falls if it's hot which it probably won't be.
coasterbill wrote:Complex? He's probably going on a weekday in January. There's nothing complex about this. Every single thing will have a 5 minute wait or less except for Cheetah Hunt, maybe Cobra's Curse and Stanley Falls if it's hot which it probably won't be.
OK, probably true. I only really go on weekends or after work on Friday. I never really use vacation time to go there, and any holiday would be worse than a weekend. But one thing to remember about BGT is that it has very short operating hours M-Th outside of the summer.
A.J. wrote:Also, with two days of time there, I would say to not even worry about a "battle plan". Just go and enjoy it.
Well, I think that the complication of BGT is that two of its most premier rides: Kumba and Montu -- never really get a line (they may, but only when the park is absolutely jammed, like during the holidays) but some rides that you may want to ride, but may not be extremely excited about WILL get lines. And if you don't get right on Cheetah Hunt, the line will be as long as it will be midday. So that's why I was saying that some strategy helps. You just have to know that Kumba and Montu will be near walk-ons most of the day, and that certain rides that you wouldn't think will be problems will get the longest lines.
Oh yeah, also the shows in the Moroccan Palace are the best in the park -- and probably some of the best shows I've seen at any park. They usually show Turn it Up throughout much of the year, and have a more Christmas themed show during Christmas.
Everyone else has echoed my thoughts on the Fun Spot parks. I really like them, but you don't need more than 2 hours to experience everything. The first time I went to the Orlando location on a Saturday night after Universal closed, the coasters and go karts were 20-30 minute waits. But from future experiences and others, it seems like that was an anomaly.
If you have a full day at SeaWorld and Busch Gardens, you'll have no issues riding everything. Manta gets its longest line immediately after opening, but it dies down by the afternoon. Then Journey and Antarctica can get decent waits in the afternoon, but on a cold day that may not happen. The only lines I've ever seen at Busch Gardens are for Cheetah Hunt (30-45 minutes), Cobra's Curse (20-40 minutes), and Sand Serpent (up to 30 minutes). Everything else has been no more than a 1-2 train wait. Since Cheetah Hunt is the first coaster by the entrance, you need to be there at rope drop to get one ride with no wait.
For food at Busch Gardens and SeaWorld, do not miss the pretzel places. Get the Bacon Pretzel Fury at Busch Gardens Tampa. SeaWorld always mixes up their pretzel offerings. I've had things as crazy as a pretzel wrapped turkey leg there. These pretzels are better than the Auntie Anne's and Wetzel's Pretzels of the world. At SeaWorld, I also really like Dine with Shamu and Shark's, but I doubt either are on a meal plan.
For Universal, the single rider lines are an absolute godsend. They're offered on every major coaster and several of the dark rides. Usually they get me on the rides in under 10-15 minutes. The three single rider lines that can take a bit longer are Gringotts, Kong, and Rockit; I have had to wait 30-40 minutes with single rider in the past.
The major rides without single rider lines are the Simpson's Ride and the three water rides at IOA, though with cooler temperatures I suspect those lines won't be an issue. Make sure you pack a bathing suit for Popeye and Ripsaw Falls, they are complete drenches. Ironically enough, Jurassic Park keeps you mostly dry even though it looks the most soaking.
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you've gotten some great feedback, so nothing really I can add other than to suggest if you are base camping in Tampa (which is what we did on our last trip there), we spent an evening at the Hard Rock Casino Tampa.
Winning there was nice, as was seeing the KISS costumes around the main bar (I'm a big KISS fan).
But I'd recommend going for the Fresh Harvest dinner buffet there, as it was among the best we've had, and better than/comparable to the Cosmopolitan in Vegas (which is our #1 in Vegas and has been for several years now).
in terms of BGT? The only time during our visits that Montu pulled long lines is when Cobra's Curse went down - since it's right over there, if CC goes down, the line drains and they all went to Montu.
Falcons Fury had a decent line (and no single rider line, at least when I was last there), but worth any wait for a ride.
So, not even looking at discounts, look at this and why you should really do Discovery Cove...
That means you can visit Discovery Cove for $25.00. $25.00!! I checked the price for this upcoming weekend. -- NOTE: They feed you breakfast, lunch, and snacks, + booze. Plus you get to swim with 7 ft long stingrays, or just chill in the warm river, or just lay in a hammock all day it would still be worth it.
If you have any questions about DC, I've been about 7 or 8 times (admittedly not in the last 3 years but that will change in a few weeks 8)). Even if you are not really a good swimmer the (cold) reef really is something to experience. The vests and/or wetsuits help keep you afloat. The warm water feels nice and they even have a sitting area in the water where you can bring your alcoholic beverages.
They also have an aviary where you can feed hungry little shits.
Don't feel like you need to do any of the "extras", you'll still have a great time.
Note: I may have bias because I used to work for SeaWorld, but bias aside they really are awesome parks. The TripAdvisor reviews for Discovery Cove don't lie!
Yeah, not doing Discovery Cove would be insane. It pays for itself just in food / drinks for that price. You'd pay that on I-Drive and you wouldn't get to spend the day at an all inclusive resort.
I looked at the price with the dolphin swim because the thought of not swimming with a dolphin for like $50 extra is insane to me (I mean... come on, it's a dolphin) but even without that we would have had an awesome day.
I agree that the other extras aren't necessary.
anonymouscactus wrote:They also have an aviary where you can feed hungry little shits.
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