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Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:30 am
by DirkFunk
A.J. wrote:
DirkFunk wrote:They just aren't the novelty they once were, which begs the question - besides virtual reality, what exactly IS the late 2010s - early 2020s theme park novelty anyway?


Wooden coasters with dynamic/inverting maneuvers.

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:26 am
by Hilltopper39
Lotologist492 wrote:
SharkTums wrote:It's not just maintenance and upkeep, but also the cost of water. In many communities water is becoming more and more expensive and those rides pump through a lot of it.

The cost of water is nominal since it is continually recycled although some does has to be continually added.


I'm not so sure it's "nominal", I don't have a calculation but we're probably talking in the millions of gallons annually that have to added as makeup just from evaporation alone.

I'm still waiting for the "amusement style water rides" at a water park revolution to begin.

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:08 am
by SharkTums
Lotologist492 wrote:
SharkTums wrote:It's not just maintenance and upkeep, but also the cost of water. In many communities water is becoming more and more expensive and those rides pump through a lot of it.

The cost of water is nominal since it is continually recycled although some does has to be continually added.


Maybe in Georgia (which appears to be your area of expertise) but I can assure you that it is NOT nominal in many places in this country.

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:22 pm
by ThrillSeeker3814
DirkFunk wrote:Most of the water rides removed have been ones that dated along with the park's inception or at least during the burst of activity in the late 70s/early 80s for theme park construction/expansion. They just got old. They also require large footprints, which increasingly landlocked parks want to take advantage of.

I'm sure they'll be "back" - most parks still have at least one or two. Good log flumes are hugely popular attractions for example.


So you think the water rides will be back in a whole new way in the future but probably have a different design like a Mack powersplash or supersplash with a coaster track instead? Infinity Falls raft ride I think we will see more raft water rides like that I’m pretty sure. An old log flume can be replaced with a newer version of a aqua water coaster I believe that is from overseas though their isn’t a new one here in the U.S. The best flume rides I can think of at any theme parks here in the United States are, Jurassic Park:The Ride now closed at USH but still open st Universal Orlando IOA as the JP River Adventure, Splash Mountain-Disney World & Disneyland, Journey to Atlantis-SeaWorld Parks, Timber Mountain which I think is at Knott’s Berry Farm, Bugs Bunny Log Flume I believe is at Six Flags Fiesta Texas Still, Escape From Pompeii at BGW, Matterhorn bobsleds at Disney Parks I guess you can consider that a very greatly themed water coaster, Dudley Do Right & Ripsaw Falls lastly at IOA, so yea those are the best water flume rides in the USA I can think of if I have left anything out let me know. But if you think since the existence of these water rides are still their why won’t they start planning a new design for water rides at dry parks in the coming years & beyond?

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:48 pm
by SoCalJasonland
I can think of a couple reasons water rides might have lost popularity besides maintenance costs and water scarcity:

Most amusement parks have their own waterparks now, so if they are going to invest in a water ride; they might as well put it in the waterpark.

Amusement parks are trying to stay open more year-round and water rides have limited appeal outside hot summer days.

Trackless water rides are limited in height and speed and since we have hit those limits; it is hard to break any water slide or flume records without it getting too dangerous. A new 50' or 60' tall slide sounds more impressive for a waterpark than an amusement park, as amusement parks are already full of bigger drops.

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:43 pm
by Jew
SharkTums wrote:
Lotologist492 wrote:
SharkTums wrote:It's not just maintenance and upkeep, but also the cost of water. In many communities water is becoming more and more expensive and those rides pump through a lot of it.

The cost of water is nominal since it is continually recycled although some does has to be continually added.


Maybe in Georgia (which appears to be your area of expertise) but I can assure you that it is NOT nominal in many places in this country.


Don't forget the cost of pumping/filtering/maintaining that water once it is in the reservoir. It isn't cheap.

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:10 pm
by ThrillSeeker3814
Well since we saw Infinity Falls open at SeaWorld Orlando and the mackpower splash at Walibi Belgium like 2 years ago it definitely tells us that the end of water rides at dry parks isn’t totally over. I think when we see the log flumes and shoot the chute rides finally fade away for good except for the classic flumes like splash mountain, journey to Atlantis, Jurassic Park the ride, then maybe some interest will bring back a new generation of dry water rides with MackSplash/SuperSplash already having the latest invention. Heck they can bring back a very tall pilgrims plunge type of water ride back but try building the ride with great quality so hopefully it won’t have to close down so quickly like shoot the rapids did at Cedar Point. Shoot the rapids still surprises me only being their like 2 years. Maybe Intamin wasn’t the right company to create a water ride for cedar point. I still think that it’s their and wanted to ride it but oh well.

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:43 pm
by A.J.
ThrillSeeker3814 wrote:Heck they can bring back a very tall pilgrims plunge type of water ride back but try building the ride with great quality so hopefully it won’t have to close down so quickly like shoot the rapids did at Cedar Point. Shoot the rapids still surprises me only being their like 2 years. Maybe Intamin wasn’t the right company to create a water ride for cedar point. I still think that it’s their and wanted to ride it but oh well.

There's a difference between a "bad quality" ride and a prototype. Anyone know how well the other Intamin water coasters are running?

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:44 pm
by ThrillSeeker3814
Well since the Mack powersplash and supersplash is pretty much overseas do you think the next step will be to bring this new water ride concept over to the U.S? Infinity Falls might be a start of new raft type styled water ride that we will see in other US parks. Because the flume water ride concept seems to be still popular. You think they will stick with the shoot the rapids styled flume ride even though it doesn’t exist anymore?

Re: Will we ever see a comeback of water rides at dry parks?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:00 pm
by HellboyBegins7492
I understand their is an article over on screamscape that talks about why the theme park modern water ride has become an endangered species check it out over on blooloop.

https://blooloop.com/water-rides-theme-parks/