Golden Ticket Awards 2018

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby 805Andrew » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:26 pm

Over the years I've learned to take the Golden Ticket Awards with a grain of salt and not take them very seriously. I am surprised though that their top three wooden coaster list matches mine. I haven't been on all of the woodies in their top ten but of the of the ones I've been Phoenix, El Toro, and The Voyage are my favorite in that order.

I'm glad to see Knoebel's get some love but Black Diamond being a top five indoor coaster and their Haunted Mansion being a top five dark ride are head scratchers to me. When I was reading the top five dark rides and read Haunted Mansion at #3 I assumed Disneyland's or Magic Kingdom's but when I read to the right it was Knoebels. Compared to the other four dark rides on the list that's like seeing a top five restaurant list with four fine dining restaurants in LA, SF, NY, and Chicago and a old time diner from rural PA. Same thing for the other four indoor coasters on the list that are all high tech and suddenly Black Diamond which is like a homemade ride. It's like entering your homemade go cart vehicle in a car show and getting fifth place after a Tesla, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and a Porsche.

AndrewRnR wrote:I just want to know who was the 5% that voted Wacky Taxi as best new ride. It wasn't like the top roller coasters where you rank your type 5 new rides for the year (in that case I could see some people having it in top 5 perhaps), the option literally was pick best new ride and 5% selected Wacky Taxi.

Wacky Taxi making the top five with other new rides like HangTime and RailBlazer opening and available to pick from is another head scratcher like the two examples above.

The Geek Mojo wrote:I would say the Golden Ticket Awards are good for the "new" enthusiast. When I first got into coasters about ten years ago, I used their awards like a checklist. But as time has gone by and have experienced all these parks for myself, I can see that the GTA's are a joke. But at one time...They were very helpful. I'll give them that credit...But that's about it.

Pretty much summed it right.

SharkTums wrote:Maybe we'll just expand the TPR Coaster Poll to include other rides, parks, water parks, water rides, etc. You know, have REAL votes from people all over the world that don't just suck up to certain PR people!

That's a great idea! I would love to see this, even if you have to start out slow and just add one or two new categories each year. Once its developed it wouldn't be that hard to dethrone Amusement Today on having the most known and relevant theme park poll.

coasterBro wrote:I mean, they're about to do a trip to Japan with over 150 people. They're using 5 or 6 coaches to bus everyone around, except on the days at Disney & Universal people have to find their own way back to the hotel via public transport.

I don't know what's more wrong, doing a trip with over 150 people or going by bus around Japan when they have a magnificent rail system there.


SharkTums wrote:^That's always been the problem with those ACE trips. They have people planning them that have no business planning! Some organizing ACE people used to actually ask us to quietly help them (i.e. they weren't allowed to tell ACE they had asked the Alvey's for assistance!).

They are IDIOTS for doing that trip on buses. I said it and I stand by it. They're probably just scared to do the research and understand how to do the trains.

Any of you interested in Japan should either use our guide, or go with us! We do Japan right!

Oh, and that cost is high because they usually send the entire ACE Executive committee for free!


They probably don't want to deal with trying to coordinating and transporting 150 people on Japan's rail system and are too lazy to do the research and effort on how to so they took the easy way out by renting buses. It will be less enjoyable for their trip participants though when those buses are stuck in traffic and they want to use the one bathroom on each bus. I can't imagine the terrible odors that will be inside those buses.

I never joined ACE because their website was terrible to navigate and didn't have good trip reports or park information easy to find and TPR had all of those plus a sense of humor and an easy to navagate website. I'm kinda glad now as I never got sucked into ACE as their trips sound terribly planned and thought through and I wouldn't want to go on a trip with 150 people. All four trips I've done with TPR have been excellent and Robb and Elissa actually know what they are doing and how to make their trips stress free and enjoyable for everyone with them.
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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby DoinItForTheFame » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:58 pm

SharkTums wrote:...Maybe we'll just expand the TPR Coaster Poll to include other rides, parks, water parks, water rides, etc. You know, have REAL votes from people all over the world that don't just suck up to certain PR people!


I vote yes on this!! :br :br :br
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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby coasterbill » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:26 pm

I’m torn on this.

On one hand, yeah... I’d love for there to be a TPR poll for a lot of these things but in order to make it good it would need to be done in the same style the coaster poll was done with the same kind of database and algorithm. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know, but I feel like you would kill yourselves putting together an insane (let’s just use this as an example) dark ride poll which would be way tougher than a coaster poll since there’s no real database of it, you would finally release the beta test, the first 10 responses would be something along the lines of...

“EXCUSE ME, YOU FORGOT “HAUNTED DARK RIDE” AT PLAYLAND’S CASTAWAY COVE ON THE JERSEY SHORE, HOW WILL WE EVER FIND OUT THE BEST DARK RIDE ON THE PLANET WITHOUT THAT INCLUDED???”

... and you’ll just throw your computer out the window, shut the site down, move to Japan and that would be the end of TPR.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby Ccron10 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:28 pm

I'm willing to bet the ones who are planning the ACE trip to Japan have never even been there let alone knew how to plan the trip out correctly. 150 people with 6 buses sounds like absolute hell and the additional blunders that sound like have occurred make it worse than waiting in a 3 hour line at Fuji-Q-Highland! Lol
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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby prozach626 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:24 am

coasterbill wrote:dark ride poll which would be way tougher than a coaster poll since there’s no real database of it, you would finally release the beta test, the first 10 responses would be something along the lines of...

“EXCUSE ME, YOU FORGOT “HAUNTED DARK RIDE” AT PLAYLAND’S CASTAWAY COVE ON THE JERSEY SHORE, HOW WILL WE EVER FIND OUT THE BEST DARK RIDE ON THE PLANET WITHOUT THAT INCLUDED???”

... and you’ll just throw your computer out the window, shut the site down, move to Japan and that would be the end of TPR.

Or, you could just award best dark ride to Haunted Mansion and call it a day.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby A.J. » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:27 am

coasterbill wrote:... and you’ll just throw your computer out the window, shut the site down, move to Japan and that would be the end of TPR.

Nah, Robb and Theme Park Review will be just fine. It'll be ME throwing my computer out the window and moving somewhere else. :lmao:

From my own perspective, it would be really freaking challenging, but not impossible. We have the park index but, as Larry deals with on a regular basis, it can be very difficult finding information on attractions that have closed. We've drawn a hard line with the TPR Coaster Poll in NOT including defunct coasters because we want the rankings to reflect what people think TODAY. Plus, as you pointed out, some people have more...vocal...opinions on their favorite dark rides, and I feel as though nostalgia is a much larger factor.

I don't know about the others but I could definitely get behind a "best parks" poll, though. That would seem like the most logical next step.
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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby Nrthwnd » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:40 pm

Best Theme Park In The World = Tokyo DisneySea. Poll closed. ;)

Best Amusement Park In The World = I really have no idea.
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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby DirkFunk » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:55 pm

I wonder how much working for Amusement Today pays? You know, like maybe they have a side gig or even a real day job that isn't listed on someone's LinkedIn because it would raise lots of ethics problems. Hmmm.....

The closest I'll give to ACE for defense: I heard that after one of their European trips in the last few years, they sent a bunch of cash back as a refund because they over estimated costs. That also means the people doing the planning were off by a couple hundred dollars in expenses when charging people for a tour, which, like, how does that happen precisely? Also the buses are because they booked too goddamned big of a group. Globus primarily uses buses there too. Also means they can hold onto people's bags more easily when doing 2-a-days with parks. Not at all the trip I'd want to do but whatever, they have their audience of primarily lower middle class freaks who will undoubtedly complain about literally everything.

TBH I think that as the years have gone on, others have struggled more and more (I like the ECC, but do the people scheduling the trip even know what they're doing with their tour in Turkey next month? They had a day booked at a park that has never opened, for example). TPR seems to be head and shoulders above everyone.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby robbalvey » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:15 pm

DirkFunk wrote:they have their audience of primarily lower middle class freaks who will undoubtedly complain about literally everything.

This sentence right here is not only incredibly truthful but also sends shivers down my spine. This exact behavior is what started to infect our tours in 2010/2011 and it was like a cancer that began to spread as more and more people like this found out about our trips. Was very happy to put a stop to that, though.

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Re: Golden Ticket Awards 2018

Postby DirkFunk » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:44 pm

Semi-unrelated: Had a chat with a friend last week, and we were talking about the differences of "Disney fans" and "Coaster fans". He made the observation that Disney fans, while total freaks also, are at least freaks with a bankroll. Like if you don't live in Orlando, you go 3-4 times a year from somewhere far away, which probably means you're blowing 10-12K a year in pure Disney trips at minimum even if DVC. If you moved to Orlando, either you're in a mountain of credit card debt or have a real job and then immediately head to Disney to escape reality almost every day. Coaster fans though are like constantly broke - trying to stuff their pockets with the Super 8 breakfast buffet, complaining if the "official hotel" is anything more expensive than a Motel 6 or a 2 circle Tripadvisor pit, screeching about the quality of the buffet at the event, complaining about buying QBots or Fast Lane even if they to a park on July 4th Saturday, copping an attitude about having clothing other than cargo shorts and a ridiculous "Fear the *insert Number Here*" park shirt for the also dumb as hell ACE Gala during the Con, and then like actions far past that. Like there was this one couple who had matching homemade "ACE" tanktops and mullets and I was told they've been wearing them since the mid 90s because ACE wouldn't let them sell the shirts but would let them wear the shirts themselves? It was way, way up there in the insane index.

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