Hey Fatties! LISTEN UP!!!

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Re: Hey Fatties! LISTEN UP!!!

Postby jarmor » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:08 am

I'm 5'8" and 270 and I didn't have an issue with Twister Timbers. I have to but some muscle to get it right but I was still comfortable.
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Postby CoasterAuditor » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:25 pm

I'm starting to figure out it's not even my waist that gives me a ton of issues with rides it's mostly my chest, broad shoulders, and thighs. InvadR we really had to push to get the one click to ride, the bar wasn't even toughing my waist and when I try the TT test seat I feel like the bar hits my shins before it even gets close to my waist. Also I need to check again to really figure it out because it's not fun to do that in front of people.
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Re: Hey Fatties! LISTEN UP!!!

Postby kenban » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:04 pm

Great advice.

I was at an enthusiast event a few years ago which had a ride designer speak and take questions. Someone asked about what they were doing to make rides more accommodating for larger individuals. The speaker explained that ride manufacturers have a problem where if they just keep making bigger seats and restraints that smaller individuals no longer fit. If I remember correctly he stated that the larger seats and restraints are part of the cause behind the trend of newer rides having higher minimum height requirement. I do remember he pointed out the different size seats on some B&M coasters and said it could be taken even farther with the possibility of certain rows having much larger seats but those rows needing a different height requirement, which no park was willing to do right now.

I found his answer very well thought out and you could tell it was not the first time he had needed to answer the question. But what sticks out in my mind every time I think about this event, is the woman who asked the question and just so happened to be sitting in a scooter. She tried to argue with him, not really caring about anyone else just how do you accommodate me. In the end the moderator just cut her off and said next question. At some point people need to take care of themselves or just move on.

This is coming from a larger individual who has had to take the walk of shame off of Wicked Twister, and now carries a super thin wallet that does not fold and only has room for 4 cards. There is no need for a giant wallet in a theme park, leave it at home or in the car.

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Postby robbalvey » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:28 pm

kenban wrote:Someone asked about what they were doing to make rides more accommodating for larger individuals. The speaker explained that ride manufacturers have a problem where if they just keep making bigger seats and restraints that smaller individuals no longer fit.

This is actually 100% correct as well. There have been some rides that Elissa and Kristen don't feel as secure because the lowest setting is actually not that comfortable on them because it's too loose and they get thrown around.

Honestly, the real answer to that question is "don't be fat." And again, this is coming from a larger guy who will be proactive to "do something about it" if I ever felt that I couldn't fit.

kenban wrote:But what sticks out in my mind every time I think about this event, is the woman who asked the question and just so happened to be sitting in a scooter. She tried to argue with him, not really caring about anyone else just how do you accommodate me.

Of course she was in a scooter and only cared about herself. But really, if she actually cared about herself, she wouldn't need that scooter to shlep her around the park. Funny how every time we go to Europe or Asia, we'll be in those countries a good couple of weeks and we'll see our first ECV and go "Wow, is that the FIRST ONE of those we've seen in two weeks???" How is it that so many other countries don't seem to have this problem but we do, and no one wants to do anything about it expects the parks and ride companies to continue to accommodate that sort of irresponsible behavior.

I'm curious...what ride company was it?
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Re: Hey Fatties! LISTEN UP!!!

Postby kalikoasterman510 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:45 pm

Recently, my wife and I took a trip to Cedar Point and Kings Island. CP was my dream park so this whole trip was planned by me and my wife wanted to come along to share in that "Dream come true" moment! My wife is 5'11", and is very curvy. Needless to say, while planning the trip, she had concerns about what she could fit on, which almost discouraged her from going a couple times. It probably didn't help also that I told her about the "Walk of Shame"! Since we had the trip booked and non-refundable FL+ passes she decided to go.

Now the only reason for the FL+ passes were because this was a one shot trip. Meaning, I wasn't spending multiple days at both parks. It was one day at each so I didn't want to chance it being a busy day and not getting to ride something, ESPECIALLY I am too stupid to spell Steel Vengeance so I'll just write SteVen and pretend I'm being cool, which was a 45min wait in the FL+ line!!! So of course, like other people with fitment concerns, we try to fine online, other people's experiences with the rides at both parks. It was really helpful when there because my wife felt more confident when we chose which rides to get on. CP for example was easy because there is a lot of info on heavy riders and what can be ridden plus both parks had test seats at almost all their coasters, and even some flat rides!!

To help my wife out more, I told her that any of the rides she can fit on, we will ride them multiple times! The FL+ helped this plan out A LOT because I rode everything in the park (some twice in a row) in about half the day! Once that was done, my wife really loved Maverick so we rode that a few times! She knows that she married a coaster nerd and after the trip, instead of being discouraged from the number of rides she COULDN'T ride, she is more than determined to do what she needs to do so she can share more trips at more theme parks with me! This all coming from someone who ISN'T the biggest fan of the crazy coasters!

I will complain about one thing that I noticed. B&M's "Big Boy" seats. Now I'm sure everyone is familiar with the seat. Some models have 2 seatbelts, but I'm guessing the newer B&M's are just using a "longer" single seatbelt. The latter is a JOKE!!! The difference in length is seriously maybe 1/4 of an inch. Now I know that could be a difference for someone and I understand that safety is first but I just don't see it as being enough. I think I complained about this more because my wife couldn't ride ANY B&M and I really wanted her to! She had to settle for the older and rougher coasters, which eventually gave her a headache and a lot of bruises!

So when I started reading this post, I was kinda like "Well DAMN, that's rude Robb!!", but then thinking about it and seeing my wife's experience is a good example of how you can't blame theme parks for you not being able to fit! Can you imagine what rides would look like if they really catered to larger riders?!?! I agree with Robb... If you want to ride, you'll do what you need to do!!

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Postby robbalvey » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:54 pm

kalikoasterman510 wrote:Some models have 2 seatbelts, but I'm guessing the newer B&M's are just using a "longer" single seatbelt. The latter is a JOKE!!! The difference in length is seriously maybe 1/4 of an inch.

Huh. All of the B&Ms at Cedar Point have big boy seats with two seat belts. I ended up sitting in the one for Raptor and I saw them on ValRavn and Rougarou also. This was recently about 3 weeks ago. Not sure what you saw but maybe you just missed those seats somehow? I don't even think I've ever seen a B&M Big Boy seat that didn't have the two buckles, actually. And the seat I was in for Raptor had a significantly longer seat belt.
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Re: Hey Fatties! LISTEN UP!!!

Postby kalikoasterman510 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:57 pm

robbalvey wrote:
kalikoasterman510 wrote:Some models have 2 seatbelts, but I'm guessing the newer B&M's are just using a "longer" single seatbelt. The latter is a JOKE!!! The difference in length is seriously maybe 1/4 of an inch.

Huh. All of the B&Ms at Cedar Point have big boy seats with two seat belts. I ended up sitting in the one for Raptor and I saw them on ValRavn and Rougarou also. This was recently about 3 weeks ago. Not sure what you saw but maybe you just missed those seats somehow? I don't even I've ever seen a B&M Big Boy seat that didn't have the two buckles, actually. And the seat I was in for Raptor had a significantly longer seat belt.


Damn, maybe I was wrong... I swear I saw them just having one red belt. My bad! lol

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Postby coasterlvr » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:14 pm

that auto correct is the freakin' best. :lmao: :lol:
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Postby John Peck » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:25 pm

Valravn have one red belt in each row, Gatekeeper has the red belts in the 4th row. Raptor and Rougoru have the double seatbelt in row 4 and another row. I got on Valravn on Sunday, but had to walk off the Gatekeeper 4th row. I am able to just barely make any seat on Raptor and Rougoru.

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Re: Hey Fatties! LISTEN UP!!!

Postby TurnOfTheCentury » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:28 pm

robbalvey wrote:
Honestly, the real answer to that question is "don't be fat." And again, this is coming from a larger guy who will be proactive to "do something about it" if I ever felt that I couldn't fit.



Preach! It's not "fat shaming": roller coaster manufacturers have to work within certain parameters to make sure the seats/ restraints work for a certain range of body types (including super small people) and if you cannot fit it speaks to perhaps needing some dietary (or other) changes IF riding in these coasters is a goal.

Too many times I have seen "larger sized guests" (or, more likely, their companion) really lash out at the ride attendants and the park when a restraint doesn't fit, and I can't help but think (1) "well, there is a test seat in front that should have given a pretty good sense that this would be a tight fit" and (2) "no offense, but your body proportions are outside a reasonable standard deviation for the design of this ride -- it fits the VAST majority of people, which is perfectly acceptable for roller coaster designs."

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