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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:41 am

wojok040 wrote:Yes the building is oversized but still operation are quite fast.

When there is noone in the line they are waiting for few more guests like any other park.

In fact I have not seen anyone including other RC bloggers/influences (call it how you want) complaining about operations in Energylandia that much. It simply does not look like you have wrote. It's weird noone else have experienced no-moving lines for all day long. I'd say you are exaggerating.

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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby MrSum1_55 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:50 am

I visited this park last year. I enjoyed by visit, but I definitely agree with some of the criticisms.

I really liked Hyperion. It had a bit of a rattle in the outside seats, but I've definitely ridden worse. (It was nowhere near as rough as Furius Baco). However, that was also opening year. It might have gotten worse since then.

I visited on a Saturday, so the park was packed. Thankfully, operations were actually quite descent on my visit. All coasters were running the maximum number of trains, and dispatches were not too bad. It is possible that the operators did not bring their "A" game because the park was less crowded, resulting in a more frustrating day. (I've seen that happen at other parks quite a few times).

However, the aesthetics of the park are quite bad to say the least. There are some nice-looking areas, but other areas look like Six Flags America. The theming is also random to some rides, having rides with wildly different themes right next to each other. It reminded me a bit of Hansa Park. Hansa Park is the nicer of the two parks, but I also don't really like that park because it has some of the same problems.

I also found the ride selection to be lackluster. I loved Hyperion, and I liked their Vekoma launch coaster. Besides those two, the third-best coaster was the family inverted coaster. That is not good in a park with a large number of coasters. I would imagine that Zadra helps give the lineup a boost.

I might go back to this park one day. I wouldn't say this park is worth making a trip for in and of itself, but I do like the city of Krakow. It is a beautiful city, and an absolute must-visit if you are a WWII history nerd.

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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:53 am

wojok040 wrote:Yes the building is oversized but still operation are quite fast.

When there is noone in the line they are waiting for few more guests like any other park.

In fact I have not seen anyone including other RC bloggers/influences (call it how you want) complaining about operations in Energylandia that much. It simply does not look like you have wrote. It's weird noone else have experienced no-moving lines for all day long. I'd say you are exaggerating.


It is not exaggeration. I was there that day and the two people I was hanging out explored the park ourselves. Maybe it was just a bad day for the park, but if there was a line for a coaster most of them moved slowly, I think Formula was the only one that was acceptable. I had the similar experiences with Hyperion and the SLC. At one point the group I was with left the park to take pictures of Hyperion and we were getting bored waiting for trains to dispatch. To add to Robb's experiences that day. Boomerang had 5-6 minutes between the train stopping and the next dispatch. The shooting dark ride has no ride ops. People were confused about boarding the cars and just standing there on the platform waiting for direction.

On the positive side, food service was very fast.
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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:03 am

larrygator wrote:On the positive side, food service was very fast.

...if you got there early or during a non-peak time. We were smart and went before and after the lunch rushes. But OMG. During that peak time... it was some of the worst operations I had seen at a restaurant making "quick service" be exactly the opposite.

Case in point, the restaurant we ate at, it took us about 10 minutes to get our food and there was only one person in front of us. By the time we got our food, the line was out the door, and we were in the restaurant a good 30 minutes and the people at the end of the line still had not ordered yet when we left.

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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:13 am

MrSum1_55 wrote:It is possible that the operators did not bring their "A" game because the park was less crowded, resulting in a more frustrating day. (I've seen that happen at other parks quite a few times).

I would say that if the park was not crowded, I would agree. If all the coasters were a walk-on with no wait, sure I can understand. But just about every single coaster had a full queue. No one seemed to be in a hurry at all. In fact, here's another story I forgot about....

Let me first give you a visual....
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So the dude on the right was too tall to ride the coaster and was arguing with the ride ops about it. Instead of taking the dude off to the side and dispatching the train, the ride ops decided to call a manager over. Note the two ride ops LEANING OVER THE COUNTER just sitting there... doing nothing... waiting for said manager. It was like this for about 4 or 5 minutes while the rest of the train was boarded, locked down and ready to go.

The manager came over, told the guy he couldn't ride and then finally escorted him out of the station.

This is the kind of bullshit crappy operations I'm talking about. At no point was ANYONE in any hurry to dispatch that train and none of the employees gave a shit at all. And I'm not "making up" any of this, nor am I exaggerating. I am reporting my EXACT EXPERIENCE from my day.... and it totally sucked.

Oh, and also note the side bins large enough to even hold a decent sized bag that are not being used because you are forced to put everything into a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo that you have to PAY for. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby MrSum1_55 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:20 am

^Okay, that side bin system sucks. Last year, they were just letting people use the bins, like the vast majority of other parks. Seems like this park has already gone downhill in the span of a year.

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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby Nrthwnd » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:30 am

^^ And I'm sure you weren't the only one on those trains, looking over at the un-used bins, with slide doors,
wondering why-tf they paid for a bin, before boarding, etc. Sad. :sad:
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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby A.J. » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:46 am

wojok040 wrote:Normally operations in Energylandia are much faster. They are dispatching one train another another. You had bad luck.

In my opinion the turnstile countdown system worked well enough, but there was never any room for people to step aside to allow a smaller group ahead of them. The turnstiles are also awkwardly placed, like right at the tops of stairs. At Hyperion, it was also very confusing because they use two queues for "group 3" which is the rest of the train, and let ten people through on each queue. Then you get to the top and the doors open and everyone just cuts in front of each other anyway. Pulsing single riders like that (group 2?) without a real human grouper also pretty much ensures that every train will leave with a few empty seats.

As for having bad luck - when you're on a trip and a park has a single day to make an impression on you, that impression sticks. They had one train on Hyperion and one train on Mayan, but they did have two on Formula. Mayan's wait time was significantly long and they actually ran two trains on it in the earlier morning only to drop to one in the later morning for what appeared to be no apparent reason. By the end of the day Hyperion's wait time was also very long, long enough that our group had to turn around at the turnstiles and exit because things just didn't appear to be moving.

And as for the fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo? I'm completely fine with paying for one for my backpack (that's how things are here at SeaWorld Orlando and Busch Gardens Tampa) but to force guests to pay to store their small items like hats, mobile phones, etc is (in my opinion) unacceptable in a 2019 theme park, especially when that other park in Poland lets you drop any item on the platform regardless of size.
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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:55 am

A.J. wrote:And as for the fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo? I'm completely fine with paying for one for my backpack

I actually should point out that I don't have a problem with paying for a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo either. My issue though is this...
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The inconsistency of being told while you wait in the line for the ride that you can use those bins on the opposite side of the train when they have clearly made the decision to stop allowing that and force you to get a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo. That's just poor design and "bad show" and is par for the course for many other similar things I saw throughout my day at the park.

If you're going to no longer allow people to use those bins, just re-edit that video. Seriously, I could re-edit that video in FIVE MINUTES so I refuse to believe that a park that wants to be a major player in Europe wouldn't have the capacity to do the same, unless they just don't care, which is exactly what the reasoning is in this example.

A.J. wrote:In my opinion the turnstile countdown system worked well enough, but there was never any room for people to step aside to allow a smaller group ahead of them. The turnstiles are also awkwardly placed, like right at the tops of stairs. At Hyperion, it was also very confusing because they use two queues for "group 3" which is the rest of the train, and let ten people through on each queue. Then you get to the top and the doors open and everyone just cuts in front of each other anyway. Pulsing single riders like that (group 2?) without a real human grouper also pretty much ensures that every train will leave with a few empty seats.

I've seen the turnstile countdown systems in other countries as well and they are common at the Italian parks. IMO, they have always been a cluster fuck and NEVER can be accountable for reaching maximum capacity on a ride. Here, take a look at this....
hyperion queue sucks all sorts of giant balls.jpg

Does that look organized? No? Well, you're right. It was just a mess. And these were the ONLY people in front of me when I waited for Hyperion and it took 40 minutes. Those counters on the turnstiles just don't really work. When the counter is down to "3" and yet the next group has "5" nobody goes. And no one with "3" steps up to take those open spots. And because the final queues to board the train are behind closed doors, you really cannot even group yourselves up or even try to fill seats . Almost every train I saw go out had anywhere from 2 to 6 empty seats on it. And when you're only running one train, that's TERRIBLE!

It was just so frustrating.
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Re: Energylandia Park Discussion Thread

Postby Perilous Chris » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:18 am

Hi Robb.

I'm curious how Hyperion compares to some of the other high rated Intamin hyper/gigas like Expedition GeForce and I305? I know you mentioned some of the rides were not good, but does it have potential to be in the same class?

I rode Red Force in Spain last year. I found it to have a bit more of a rattle than I expected.

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