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Postby _koppen » Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:56 pm

To be fair there is an extreme wasp summer here so it's not entirely the parks fault. I'm not sure there is any really good way to get rid of them close to the food stands.
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Postby viking86 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:59 am

First experience with a RMC did not dissappoint! Wildfire is an amazing ride!

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Postby RCT3Bross » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:43 pm

Rode Wildfire today, thought it was a crazy ride. Somehow the zoo part felt slightly disapoiting but the park's landscape and off-course wildfire made the day more then worth it. :b
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Postby Anac0nda » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:56 am

This is kind of a short notice but I'll be at Gröna Lund tomorrow and at Kolmården on Sunday. I'm traveling solo so if anyone wants to meet up, I'm all up for it! :)

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Postby lond » Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:01 am

And I will do Kolmården tomorrow...

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Re: Wildfire - 2016 Kolmarden Rocky Mountain Woodie Announce

Postby Anac0nda » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:31 am

I'm back from riding Wildfire and I have to say: Kolmården really nailed it with this!

It could have been the chilly weather, but it wasn't as balls-to-the-walls intense as I expected. However it was endless fun and very comfortable, meaning I could ride it all day! I later realized that if Wildfire would've been too intense, it wouldn't belong to Kolmården as much. After all, Kolmården is a family-oriented park with a focus on wildlife.
Wildfire has just the right amount of scare-factor with an _awesome_ first drop :lover: and massive speed, but it is kinda gentle to anyone brave enough to ride it to make them come back for re-rides.

Wildfire is by far the best wooden coaster I've ridden, and it now sits in my top-10 at #6.

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Re: Wildfire - 2016 Kolmarden Rocky Mountain Woodie Announce

Postby deguy123 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:52 am

Just back from vacation in Copenhagen and Stockholm! I did get a chance to head over to Wildfire and finally ride this monster! It didn't disappoint at all but it just didn't beat El Toro in my mind. The coaster looks beautiful and dominates the back of the park. Also the coaster is a good walk from the entrance to the park. The hang time in the first inversion is something I've never felt and the speed in the back seat must be felt!
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Re: Wildfire - 2016 Kolmarden Rocky Mountain Woodie Announce

Postby viking86 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:48 am

So I read in the news today that a court case will be starting on Friday. In 2012 a female employee was killed by wolves when working alone inside the animal enclosure, and it's being claimed that the park is at fault. The former zoo chief is being charged, and the park risks having to pay a fine of 4 million SEK (468.000 USD)

Source: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/ost/vargexperter-kritiserar-djurparkens-hantering-av-vargarna

And here is the translation. It's from Google translate so it's far from perfect (a few obvious items corrected by me).

A long series of wolf experts will testify when the trial begins tomorrow in Norrköping District Court, after a female zookeeper bitten to death by wolves four years ago.
The tragic incident has aroused great attention both in the media and within the scientific community.

- It was a tragic accident that could have been avoided, says wolf expert Runar Naess to SVT News East.

Norwegian expert to trial
Runar Naess is one of the wolf experts will be consulted as an expert during the trial. He has worked with socialized wolves in over 20 years.

- It strongly affects the people who are actually doing this around the world. This creates a poor light of all the other researchers working with socialized wolves, but in a completely different way. Without dominance and struggle that led to the accident in 2012, says Runar Naess.

Suspected breach of Working Environment Act
It was in June 2012 that the 30-year-old animal keeper went in alone to the eight male wolves, she has worked with since they were puppies. She had done several times before, but on this day she never came out of the enclosure. Her lifeless body was found some distance into the enclosure.

The then chief Zoologiske prosecuted on suspicion of working crimes, including manslaughter, felony and Kolmarden Zoo risk a fine of four million crowns.

- We deny the allegations. For us it is above all a tragic accident that has taken place here and our thoughts now go primarily to the families and to our employees here at Kolmarden, says Christer Fogelmarck President Park and Resorts.

Extensive research has taken time
It has been more than four years since the accident, and now begins the trial in the District Court of Norrköping. That it has taken so long partly because there have been several new elements to the investigation, says prosecutor Jan Olof Andersson. There is an extensive investigation and the hearing is expected to last for 18 days.

- It has been a very complicated investigation. There are many people who have heard and we have got to do two repetitions, both omtagen comes to experts experts have heard of and want to share their knowledge, says prosecutor Jan Olof Andersson.

Management Methodology questioned
Among other things, it is about criticism of the zoo's way of handling the socialized wolves. Several researchers and experts in the field, questions to the Kolmarden Zoo worked with dominance management methodology coupled with that one did not take the Works available, existing collateral.

- Simplified, there are two methods of handling, the so-called domination method where you go in and dominate the wolves and, to some extent, press down the wolves. And a so-called distraction method to distract the wolves, get them to think about anything else associated with an event. Kolmarden has used the first method, while the majority of the scientists working with socialized wolves use the second method, says Jan Olof Andersson.

- I generally believe that there are several different approaches to both wolves and other animals. When it comes to our business so it goes first for us, the highest priority is always safety. We do not know the risks, but based on the current state of knowledge and events in general, we have developed our approach over time, says Christer Fogelmarck President Park and Resorts.

The operator would not have worked alone
 In addition to the working method wolf experts criticize that the zoo allowed working alone in the wolf enclosure.

- After the wolves become five months old should be at least two people who manage them, says a wolf experts included in the preliminary investigation to SVT News East.

Furthermore, he points to other places in the world, working with socialized wolves.

 - There are always at least two people, he says.

Furthermore, he explains that wolves are potentially dangerous animals.

- It has socialized them, which means they are no longer shy of humans. But it has not removed the danger, the expert said to SVT East.

"The adult wolves can be dangerous"
He also questions the failure to observe the general council, which has existed since the 80s, when it comes to working with socialized wolves.

- The adult wolves can be dangerous, you should not go in alone and you should have with alarm. There should be a plan for how to react if something happens, he says.

There have also been previous incidents where the wolves behave threateningly towards staff and visitors. These incidents should have been a warning, according to experts and researchers.

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Re: Wildfire - 2016 Kolmarden Rocky Mountain Woodie Announce

Postby livai » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:49 pm

I did not understand, but the park has lost a case in court and now risschiano having to tear down the coaster.
I am shocked

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Re: Wildfire - 2016 Kolmarden Rocky Mountain Woodie Announce

Postby Password121 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:00 pm

^Just tossed it in google translate and from what I could gather, the court (or someone?) decided they didn't have a detailed environmental plan, and they're now saying the ride impacts wildlife too greatly to continue to exist. If they can prepare that detailed plan and have it approved, they may be okay, but they're saying it may not be likely to be approved and the ride's future is currently "uncertain."

Not sure of the specifics with how likely they are to be approved at this point, but the video seemed pretty depressed. Holy sh*t.
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