Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby rollin_n_coastin » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:04 pm

That jingle hasn't changed since I was old enough to remember it in the mid to late 80s. After going back in '08, about 20 years later, it was apparant that the park and animal conditions, which 'may' have been fine back then, haven't changed either. The performance area looked so small compared to how I remember it. Thankfully Friendship Cove turned out well at least. Suzie McNiel is just peeved that she couldn't get something better after Canadian Idol. She knew exactly what and who she was singing for.

Marineland is always packed and people will always pay to get in if in the area. The only thing that has been running and keeping Holer's business afloat over the years and the thing that will continue to do so is location, location, location. Hopefully further investigation will clarify and remove any exaggerated tales from disgruntled employees, etc. The most important thing is to improve the older facilities by pinpointing reasonable and necessary upgrades on a real world timeline as I don't see attendance declining any time soon. I do believe that the trainers that work there love and care for each animal whole heartedly and make the very best of the existing conditions. Thank goodness for them. I also believe that John Holer loves the animals and that his mission statement comes from the heart but it's obvious that he's been suffering from some myopia--why invest in your business beyond the basics when the status quo has proved adequate for decades and the people keep coming? He needs to be challenged and this is the best that's happened in years.
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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby jedimaster1227 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:14 am

http://www.marinelandcanada.com/general/general_information/

Media Statement - August 15, 2012

For over 50 years, Marineland has proven that it is one of the world's best facilities for animal and marine mammal care.

We are proud to offer our guests an educational and exciting experience.

Our animals receive loving care from our trainers and our veterinary staff and enjoy well-maintained facilities, high quality diets and exemplary veterinary care. As a testament to the quality of our care, our animals live much longer than they would in the wild. Our "seniors" enjoy their retirement in their Marineland home and receive the best quality care for their age and stage of life.

We invite members of the media and the public to visit Marineland to see it for themselves and learn more about the work we do here.


http://www.cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/08/16/20110171.html

Marineland can expect a visit from the Niagara Falls Humane Society.

Humane society executive director Jay DesRoches told QMI Agency on Thursday the agency will be inspecting the amusement park “in the very near future” to investigate allegations of animal mistreatment. “We, in conjunction with the (Ontario Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) and other organizations plan on doing an inspection and an investigation at Marineland,” DesRoches said. “I don’t want to disclose when that will take place, but it will be in the very near future. It’s a priority to us.”

The 51-year-old Niagara Falls park and its owner, John Holer, have come under fire this week after concerns were raised by former employees that poor water conditions had led to animals getting sick.

Along with traditional law enforcement services, the Ontario SPCA has the job of making sure the laws against animal abuse are followed. They enforce animal welfare legislation and investigate complaints using affiliates such as the Niagara Falls Humane Society.

“The Ontario SPCA takes animal cruelty concerns very seriously,” OSPCA marketing and communications manager Alison Cross said in a statement. “We respond to an average of 16,000 cases of animal cruelty every year.” She said typically the agency wouldn’t investigate a zoo or animal park unless it had a specific complaint against it - none have been filed against Marineland - but both she and DesRoches said the red flags raised by a number of former Marineland employees who have spoken out publicly this week warranted an investigation.

Holer helped fund the Niagara Falls Humane Society’s current building. In the main entrance to its headquarters on Chippawa Pkwy., the humane society has a plaque thanking Holer for his generosity and for making the building a possibility when it was opened in 1981. The society donated its old building to Marineland in 1979, and in exchange Holer paid for the property on which the new facility sits.

But DesRoches said the 31-year-old donation has “absolutely” no impact on any current actions by the agency. “Any prior transaction that may have occurred whether recently or long ago, has no impact on any current investigation by the Niagara Falls Humane Society,” he said.

Niagara Falls Liberal MPP Kim Craitor said the public shouldn’t be concerned about a conflict of interest. “John Holer and Marineland are treated no differently than any other facility,” he said Thursday.

Asked about the animal abuse allegations, Craitor said he only knew what he had read in the media. “I just don’t have all of the facts, but there are organizations that will go in and look at them,” he said. Craitor said he received numerous e-mails over the past two days calling for Marineland to close and by others defending the park.

Cheri DiNovo, an NDP MPP for Parkdale-High Park, said the organizations responsible for investigating parks like Marineland have their hands tied. “The OSPCA can only enforce laws they have on the books and there are no laws protecting sea mammals,” she said. “This is not shocking to us. It’s a wonder it’s not worse because there are no laws protecting these animals. “Operations like Marineland are self-regulating and we need the government regulation.”
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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby BeemerBoy » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:28 am

Our animals receive loving care from our trainers and our veterinary staff and enjoy well-maintained facilities, high quality diets and exemplary veterinary care.

Uh huh....



Cheri DiNovo, an NDP MPP for Parkdale-High Park, said the organizations responsible for investigating parks like Marineland have their hands tied. “The OSPCA can only enforce laws they have on the books and there are no laws protecting sea mammals,” she said. “This is not shocking to us. It’s a wonder it’s not worse because there are no laws protecting these animals. “Operations like Marineland are self-regulating and we need the government regulation.”

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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby strwrse1 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:17 pm

BeemerBoy wrote:
Our animals receive loving care from our trainers and our veterinary staff and enjoy well-maintained facilities, high quality diets and exemplary veterinary care.

Uh huh....



That video reminds me of my only visit to this park. There were "locals" there & had two jumbo bags of marshmellows they were tossing to the bears. High quality diet, indeed.

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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby Owl_Enthusiast » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:04 pm

Recently SpandyAndy (a popular Vancouver busker that was performing at Marinland for a season) posted on his facebook about why he wouldn't be returning to Marineland in the future.
My coworkers wanted change, but it was all about cutting costs. They couldn’t keep experienced staff because no one was willing to work in these conditions for too long. There was no healthy future for Marineland. Now that the ex-employees are speaking out, I am to. Please sign this petition created by Zoocheck Canada and Phil Demers: http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/save-marineland-s-animals. We can force Marineland to put more into the facility and protecting the animals.


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I really hope something is done to help these poor animals :(

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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby SaraAB87 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:47 pm

I haven't visited this park since the early 90s but I heard nothing about neglect then. It is a very strange park though, they only have a few rides and each ride is what feels like miles from the next. There is not much to do which is true unless you want a walking marathon. I don't have to worry about having the urge to visit as I don't have a passport. Sadly this is a tourist park so tourists will come and walk around and be like.. Oh animals! And they will be happy. This park can exist with high prices and basically doing nothing because most people who go aren't local and will not return. A lot of the tourists that go there don't even speak or read English so I doubt protesting would actually make people turn away.

I definitely would not know animal neglect if it was looking me square in the eye so I am guessing it's not something you can see unless you have knowledge of animals or have worked with them or currently work with them.

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Postby deguy123 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:28 am

I'm pretty sure on the Leviathon Trip it was mentioned that the maintenance guy from Dragon Mountain is a member on here and looks at the website daily.
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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby chadster » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:06 am

^I heard that too, and actually I'm glad he does. Perhaps some things mentioned about the facility will help shed some light on public, er, enthusiast perception. On the flip side, the old Arrow was running well.

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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby Nyteowl » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:38 pm

chadster wrote:^I heard that too, and actually I'm glad he does. Perhaps some things mentioned about the facility will help shed some light on public, er, enthusiast perception. On the flip side, the old Arrow was running well.

Indeed it was. Had quite an interesting layout too. Also, nice ice cream cone diet for the bears :\.
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Re: Marineland animals suffering, former staffers say

Postby Chroniq » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:13 pm

chadster wrote:^I heard that too, and actually I'm glad he does. Perhaps some things mentioned about the facility will help shed some light on public, er, enthusiast perception. On the flip side, the old Arrow was running well.



Yeah..The arrow looper was the highlight of the park ( I didn't make it over to the "might be operating" drop tower though) .. Although I'll doubt he'll comment on it, I'd like to thank him for the upkeep (and being a TPR member)..


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