LeoBruz199 wrote:Am I overreacting? is it too much to ask for an Italian park to not make itself to be the laughing stock of the coaster community?
What "return to form" are you talking about? iSpeed isn't even ten years old. If you're talking about being let down by Divertical, what did you expect from what is mainly a water ride? Mirabilandia has no obligation to the coaster community. They are a theme park first, and it would appear as though they want to grow into a destination park (if they aren't there already) that caters to all demographics. In my opinion, if that means leaving the "coaster enthusiast" category alone for a little while longer, so be it.
OK. I'll admit that the "return to form" part was *a bit* of an exaggeration. I'll also say you're right that it's their choice as to whether or not they want to appeal to coaster enthusiasts.
However, when you get something that is embarrassing even by "Family-thrill coaster" standards, especially considering the budget that's gone into this entire project, which is €25M, it kinda makes my skin crawl.
Let me just be very, very clear. I actually like the new area concept they've got going for them, since that part of the park really was falling apart at this stage. The showroom is definitely something different, although it's not technically a new ride, and the VR/simulator stuff, if it's anything like what Ferrari World has (which I highly doubt), then it'll be definitely interesting. It's just that saying that I'm extremely disappointed that they've chosen the Spike coaster, even if there's better alternatives even when considering budget, is an extreme
A.J. wrote:If you're talking about being let down by Divertical, what did you expect from what is mainly a water ride?
As you're bringing up Divertical, as a side note, let me just say that poor layout and thrills delivery aside, I think it was possibly one of their worst investments to date. They initially hyped it up to be something way bigger than it actually was, going all "oh this is the biggest investment in the park's history and it will be the biggest in the world of its kind", and then sort of dancing around what it actually was until we found that out the hard way, and that made the reveal even more bitter sweet. Not to mention the countless downtime it had in its first years of its lifetime. But fine, it was an intermediary coaster between their family coasters and their thrill coasters which I guess added to their lineup, and it's a half decent coaster, so there's really not much else to complain about, there.
A.J. wrote:Mirabilandia has no obligation to the coaster community. They are a theme park first, and it would appear as though they want to grow into a destination park (if they aren't there already) that caters to all demographics. In my opinion, if that means leaving the "coaster enthusiast" category alone for a little while longer, so be it.
At the same time though, they have really been catering to families a lot
during these past few years. Think about it- Far West Valley and Dinoland's additions have all been either family rides or rethemeing of pre-existing rides, and I guess it worked, since some of those areas really needed a refresher.
I guess a bit of the disappointment from this announcement (outside of the TPR forums, mainly) comes from the fact that since they've been on such a streak with family additions, people just blindly assumed that they'd mix it up and add in something bigger, not necessarily a full-on extreme coaster, but something that'd at least put the park back onto the radar for thrill seekers. Because in all honesty, I think their family lineup has enormously outweighed their thrill rides', having only three of their current rides only counting as legitimate thrill rides, four if you throw Divertical in there, and that is a pretty big stretch if you ask me.
Another thing is that people were so let down by this announcement because, hypothetically speaking, Mirabilandia was the only one that could have potentially invested in thrilling additions at all. Let's look at this: Gardaland is currently working on a new Peppa Pig themed area (which I mentioned in the Gardaland Discussion Thread) as well as refurbishing its current dark rides (hallelujah!), and every other park in Italy either can't afford it (especially the Roman parks (God, they'll be lucky if they stay open within the next few years...)), or have environmental implications that prevent them from expanding (Cavallino Matto immediately comes to mind, since they can't tear down too many trees (Freestyle has caused them A LOT of problems in that regard)), or they simply don't want to, because they're family parks (Leolandia and Luneur 2.0, I'm looking at YOU!). So, yeah. They could've been a beacon of hope, ideally.
And finally (almost done...) I keep looking around at all these new rides popping up all over Europe, like Taron, RedForce, Wildfire, the list goes on... and the Italian park that claims to have "Europe's best roller coasters" as a selling point, gets... a Spike coaster. I used to think that someday they'll muster up enough cash to one-up these newer and better rides... someday... someday... Sooomedayyy my Prince will coooome...
. I guess that ain't happening any time soon... not with all the money they're spending on this project...
I think at this point we just have to let this happen, see how the GP reacts to it, as well as their new waterpark expansion, which no one seems to care about at the moment, and well... see how it goes.
I'm deeply sorry if I came across as rude or obnoxious, but I thought this had to be said.