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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby grsupercity » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:52 am

If they really wanted to spread it out they could of built in west Michigan lol
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:02 am

^^ :lmao:

SK4494 wrote:I finds it really strange that they are putting the Giga really close to Diamondback? Canada and Carowinds have their Gigas at the other end of the park from their Hypers and I would think they would put it at the former location to SoB

Hmmn. Not so sure about that. They're both on opposite sides of the park. The only other alternative would have been to use SOB's station and that area just got ramped up with Banshee. The pathway there narrows down that way so it might have gotten pretty congested between Banshee, Bat, and the new Giga.

I could see your point if they were right next to each other, but look how close Fury gets to Intimidator. They practically touch tips...

When you'll look at the skyline from the front of the park it will look like the new giga is to the left side of the park and Diamondback will be to the right. You also have to consider where the new giga's entrance will be. It'll work out!
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Canobie Coaster » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:04 am

Six Flags New England put two boomerangs next to each other. Silverwood put two wood coasters right next to each other. If the ride is good*, people will ride it even if it looks similar to another.

* Or I guess mediocre considering SFNE's Goliath has an hour wait when it decides to operate.
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Postby prozach626 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:06 am

I can't believe SF never put two coasters next to each other named "Goliath." It was inevitable until all of the DC crap came along.

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Postby Canobie Coaster » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:08 am

^ They did almost put two rides named Harley Quinn Spinsanity next to each other at Over Texas until they changed the name of the original one to something else. :lol:
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby hoppedup » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:17 am

I try to avoid chain restaurants when I can. The Mason Grill (124 E. Main St.) was an excellent choice for breakfast Saturday. Huge portions, quite tasty, and reasonably priced. There is a craft beer store two doors down as well.

Edit: Just looked up the beer store. Turns out it is actually a brewery. The Common Beer Co.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Intamin_coyote » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:28 pm

Vonni wrote:Has there been any more teasers?


Technically, there actually hasn't been any official park teasers to begin with. Only "developments", of which the most recent one has been simply what color the track might be...

Similar to 3 out of the other 4 CF gigas, a nice blue color...

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Supposedly, the support color (behind the track), is a light gray.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Intamin_coyote » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:48 pm

Thirteen years ago today, Cedar Fair purchased Kings Island along with the four other then-Paramount parks - for a an astonishing $1.24 billion...

What's crazy to think about is how long its been already that they've owned the parks. About one more year from now, and they will have owned these parks for as long (2006-2020) as the Paramount era was (1992-2006). Assuming they own the parks past 2020, this will make them the single-longest ownership of Kings Island...

I'll always look at the Paramount era with mixed feelings. On one hand, I have vivid, fond memories of growing up in the perennial "Award" winning Kid's Area that was Hanna-Barbera Land/Nick Central/Nick Universe etc. by which Paramount was responsible for expanding and improving multiple times throughout their ownership.

But on the other hand, when I look at many of the decisions/major investments made in the times long before I was old enough to know or care who B&M is or what a "world-class coaster" entails, I can't help but to think that this must have been a frustrating time to be an enthusiast.

I admire Paramount's ambition they had with Son of Beast and Tomb Raider, but my oh my is it a tough pill to swallow just thinking about $30,000,000 and $20,000,000 respectively spent on two things that:

A) Failed to see their 10th anniversary (and at a seasonal park)

B) Significantly and rapidly detoriated over time - one of which ending up as one of the infamous coasters of all time, and the other in its last couple years became denigratingly known as "a ferris wheel in a box" :/

C) Left behind painful reminders of what could have been in the form of year-round Haunt structures.

And this obsession they had with prototypes was not limited to KI. Flights of Fear, Volcano, Hypersonic etc.

And unfortunately for KD, neither Volcano or Hypersonic never worked as intended, and unfortunately no longer exist either.

It seems that they really did want to bring to KI and KD something special and world-class in SOB, TR:TR, Volcano, and Hypersonic, but came up short when it came to execution. If they had just gone with relatively unambitious/less "inspired" projects such as any steel hypercoaster, B&M floorless, invert, etc., things would have gone much more smoothly, both figuratively and literally.

Hinsdsight is 2020, but heck, an Intamin rocket would have ended up as a better choice than Hypersonic. As for SOB, a plug n' play in the 150-160 ft range (I've heard that Intamin was considered when SOB was in development, but either the price was not right and/or were not willing to go 200+ ft)

Xcelerator (2002) opened just one year after Hypersonic
Colossos (2001) - one year after SOB
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby pǝʇɹǝʌuı » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:34 pm

Intamin_coyote wrote:What's crazy to think about is how long its been already that they've owned the parks. About one more year from now, and they will have owned these parks for as long (2006-2020) as the Paramount era was (1992-2006). Assuming they own the parks past 2020, this will make them the single-longest ownership of Kings Island...


Wow, that's crazy. All things considered I think Cedar fair has been the best owners of the park, for many of the reasons you stated. From a theming standpoint, I remember being a bit upset by how generic Cedar Fair with the big rides and the loss of the Nickelodeon theme in the kids area. The Italian Job suffered (suffers) the worst, but I have friends who, probably to this day, still refer to Invertigo and Drop Tower as Face/Off and Drop Zone.

13 years later I'm really impressed with what Cedar Fair has done. Generic rides are ok if they're good rides, and it's not like the park was anything like Disneyland or Universal before. While I still prefer the Nick themes for the kids rides, the park has done a pretty good job with the Peanuts rebrand and kept the rides in good working condition (although, wouldn't it be great to get the pre-Paramount name "Beastie" back on Woodstock Express). Most of all, though, I'm really happy with the coasters Cedar Fair has added. They bought a park that's a four hour drive from and a competitor to their flagship park and still added some awesome, world-class thrill rides. The addition of Diamondback in 2009 was what really sparked my enthusiasm for the hobby and quenched my thirst for an awesome first drop that was previously satisfied by Son of Beast, whose only good moment was the first drop. Banshee and Mystic aren't too bad, either. Now we're looking forward to a B&M giga next year, something I doubt Paramount would have built.

I miss Son of Beast; I wish they could have smoothed it out and actually made it a good ride, but it looks like that simply wasn't possible. I miss the backwards racer. I miss Nick Universe. I'm sad that I never got a chance to ride Volcano. I regret that I never rode Tomb Raider. I think Backlot really doesn't live up to its potential. But all in all, I'm happy with where the park has come.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

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