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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby metallik » Fri May 24, 2019 4:21 pm

prozach626 wrote:Stop wishing. It's not going to happen. It would be a dumb investment, because The Beast is currently, and likely always will be, popular with guests. Even the Cedar Fair recognizes that it's an icon and guests love the nostalgia. It makes zero financial sense.


Not to mention the fact you'd have to reconstruct most of the ride just to make the conversion interesting. Beast is mostly flat straightaways aside from the final helix. You'd have to rebuild most of it from the footers up with lateral and vertical movement to make it interesting as an RMC.

IMHO the only real improvement I'd like to see would be slight profile changes to allow it to run faster. Otherwise I think they're better off just leaving it as-is.

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Postby SFOG1991 » Fri May 24, 2019 4:28 pm

The only changes I’d want to see done to The Beast are...
1. Ease up on the trim brakes or remove where possible
2. Add small airtime hills to some of the straight stretches
3. Headrest free buzz bar trains

Among any other small improvements. It’s a great unique ride but honestly during the day most of it isn’t that great. At night the darkness makes it better but I definitely don’t think the experience meets the hype. That being said it is a one of a kind experience and I appreciate that. Oh and please never RMC it or any unique classic woodie.

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Postby prozach626 » Sat May 25, 2019 3:36 am

A.J. wrote:Honestly, I think the real problem is that modern roller coasters have just gotten too good in general.

Like from a blessing and curse standpoint?

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Postby Intamin_coyote » Sat May 25, 2019 7:20 am

^Yep. On one hand there's so many great coasters to ride. But because of reference dependence, these great new coasters make the coasters of years' past seem less impressive, and/or there creates a sort of jadedness among some where anything thats not uber-intense RMC or Intamin seem "meh".

Case in point, Fury ranking #13 overall in the latest poll :/

SFOG1991 wrote:The only changes I’d want to see done to The Beast are...
1. Ease up on the trim brakes or remove where possible


This for certain would not be feasible.

And contrary to some belief, the Beast runs no appreciable amount slower than it did Opening Day 1979. The degree to which its braked has remained the same, only the method has changed. Used to be skid brakes which would slow the train gradually, where as the magnetic trims more abruptly, thus creating the feeling that its being slowed down more when in reality it isn't.
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Postby Samuel » Sat May 25, 2019 8:32 am

Let the record show that I think Beast is still the best (and by far the most fun) ride in the park! I thought that it'd start to feel dated by now, but I've enjoyed it every time. It still feels bonkers to me, even with trims, and rides like SkyRush haven't changed that. Please, no touching Beast or other classics like the Coney Island Cyclone, aside from more traditional rehabs.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby Intamin_coyote » Sat May 25, 2019 12:42 pm

Samuel wrote:Let the record show that I think Beast is still the best (and by far the most fun) ride in the park! I thought that it'd start to feel dated by now, but I've enjoyed it every time. It still feels bonkers to me, even with trims, and rides like SkyRush haven't changed that. Please, no touching Beast or other classics like the Coney Island Cyclone, aside from more traditional rehabs.


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Yup. Basically, GCI is the only outside company that should be touching rides like these...

And I agree about Beast. Always has been my personal favorite, and probably always will at KI. The other top ones are great in their own right, but the Beast is just so unique and one-of-a-kind in every way.
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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Sat May 25, 2019 2:44 pm

I couldn't agree more and I'll add Screaming Eagle to that list.

I was thinking about the complaints of the length of the new Giga. This isn't SF Great America where every ride is 30 seconds long, so I take that into consideration when looking at the park as a whole. Diamondback and Mystic Timbers have pretty good length. Banshee is long for its coaster type. Beast is exceptionally long. They can't all be four minutes long.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby RAWKIN_coaster38 » Tue May 28, 2019 12:14 pm

prozach626 wrote:There's a difference between the people who are slightly disappointed and the people who keep crying like little bitches.

Great way to put it. I have experienced some level of disappointment for it not being as tall/record-breaking/long as my pipe dreams had hoped, but I'm still overjoyed for the park getting a coaster like this and I will still be there and happily marathon the thing, and I can't wait to ride it during Haunt no matter how it turns out.

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby AndrewA86 » Tue May 28, 2019 3:07 pm

RAWKIN_coaster38 wrote:
prozach626 wrote:There's a difference between the people who are slightly disappointed and the people who keep crying like little bitches.

Great way to put it. I have experienced some level of disappointment for it not being as tall/record-breaking/long as my pipe dreams had hoped, but I'm still overjoyed for the park getting a coaster like this and I will still be there and happily marathon the thing, and I can't wait to ride it during Haunt no matter how it turns out.


Personally I will be disappointed if it's not better than Fury. But just because it's not taller, faster and/or longer than Fury doesn't mean it can't be better. Look at Millennium Force and Expedition GeForce...

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Re: Kings Island (KI) Discussion Thread

Postby pǝʇɹǝʌuı » Tue May 28, 2019 3:50 pm

We already know that the setting for this coaster is much different than Fury as it's located in the back of the park. I think many of the elements will be really similar, but, just like Fury, I think we'll see some innovative things. Look at the helix on the blueprints (Not posted here yet but someone from KIC scanned these high-resolution images: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DSj3IBP1_GI9h7JhU7217zdiO-LQbNU9/view) The spot labeled "top #6" is an a really interesting position. Also, the fact that the drop is 300ft and the second "top" only 183ft above the low point of the drop tells me something funny might be happening there.

KI and Carowinds are hardly competitors. I think they'll try to keep this coaster as different from Millennium Force as they can, but also different from Diamondback. I don't think Fury will play into the equation that much at all.

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