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Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:49 am
by Moose
PeoplemoverMatt wrote: Blackfish is propaganda. Let's be honest, that's what it is.



I think pretty much everyone on here realizes that the move is propaganda. If you have any doubts, go to the movie's webpage and it will become even more obvious.

Despite it being propaganda, there are some truths behind it. Will it stop me from supporting the park? No. Do I think Sea World needs to continue to change their practices. Yes. If SeaWorld cared for the animals now the same way that they were cared for when Tilly was in Canada (yes that was NOT Sea world) there would reason to boycott, but that is far from the case.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:02 pm
by Philrad71
Again to be fair, many of the acts are trying to distance themselves from the controversy. Its not really fun to be bombarded with countless hate messages surrounding the documentary. Agree with their decision or not.


If these bands get their feelings hurt by some loser internet trolls hiding behind their keyboard and monitor then they've got some serious issues. It's all about money and their image (although my opinion of these bands is that they pretty much sucked before this whole thing happened anyway).

Personally, I think the event is going be better without them.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:33 pm
by Jew
I feel like Sea World should turn the tide on the bands by saying "the appearance fees from these bands have now been used to fund a new conservation program to save some animal"

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:22 pm
by robbalvey
(December 19, 2013) Orlando, Fla. – A sub-adult female manatee was rescued yesterday from the St. John’s River near Jacksonville, Fla. Sea2Shore had been monitoring the manatee for the past week and notified the Jacksonville Electrical Authority of her distress. The SeaWorld Rescue Team was then called to assist with her rescue after the animal began showing signs of cold stress and was not leaving the area to feed.

The 7-foot-long manatee was rescued by the SeaWorld Orlando Rescue Team with assistance from Sea2Shore and Florida Fish and Wildlife staff and volunteers. She was then transported to SeaWorld Orlando, where the park’s animal care team and veterinary staff performed a complete health exam and began providing an antibiotic treatment. The manatee will receive around-the-clock care, including regular tube feedings and fluids, and her health will continue to be monitored.

The rescued manatee is considered to be in guarded condition and is showing initial signs of cold stress, including whitening of the facial skin, and is underweight. The team remains cautiously optimistic she will make a full recovery and their goal, as with every rescue, is to return the manatee back to her natural environment.

So far in 2013, SeaWorld Orlando has rescued 18 and returned 10 manatees back to their natural environment. In collaboration with the government and other members of accredited stranding networks, SeaWorld Parks & Entertainment operates one of the world’s most respected programs to rescue ill and injured marine animals, with the goal to rehabilitate and return to the ocean. SeaWorld animal experts have helped more than 22,000 animals in need - ill, injured, orphaned and abandoned - for more than four decades.

The Manatee Rescue & Rehabilitation Partnership (MRP) is a cooperative group of non-profit, private, state, and federal entities who work together to monitor the health and survival of rehabilitated and released manatees. Information about manatees currently being tracked is available at http://www.wildtracks.org.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:34 pm
by Jalek
I've started a campaign to rename all marine mammals at SeaWorld as orcas. Henceforth, bottlenose dolphin shall be known as "shiny orcas" (Orcinus shineus) sea lions as "clowning orcas" (Orcinus comedicus) and manatees as "sloppy orcas" (Orcinus ACErus) I hope this sloppy orca doesn't hurt a human.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:01 pm
by bbomser
Funny, I scoured CNN for anything about this, and what do you know, NOTHING!!! I did find some article about SeaWorld San Diego, with some school children having their overnight trip to SeaWorld cancelled because one 10 year old girl, who wants to be a veteranarian, didn't agree with the film. I went to school with many future Marine Biologists, and their goals are to work at SeaWorld, or Clearwater Aquarium, or Epcot, because places like these actually do things for the animals. Yes, captivity can be bad for such large animals, but the wild is even worse!

Side note, when is the TPR Film "BlackLie" coming out, about the collusion CNN had with the film?

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:49 pm
by Garet
robbalvey wrote:So I find this kind of hilarious.

I have never looked at change.org ... until now.

I was expecting to see some sort of HUGE outcry and TONS of people backing all this anti-SeaWorld nonsense, and here is what I found....

Willie Nelson to cancel: ~9,000 supporters
Bare Naked Ladies to cancel: ~11,000 supporters
Trisha Yearwood to cancel: ~5,000 supporters
SeaWorld to end their Orca breeding program: ~14,000 supporters.
SeaWorld to release their Orcas and Dolphins: ~12,000 supporters.

Here's where it gets funny....

Help some random guy with his house payments to Bank of America: ~200,000 supporters
Wal-Mart to rehire a guy who was fired for selling a frozen turkey at a wrong price: ~404,000 supporters
Target to close their store on Thanksgiving: ~377,000 supporters
Changing YouTube's comment section back to it's original form: ~225,000 supporters
Kraft Foods Stop using dye in your cheese: ~352,000 supporters

So, here is what I've learned from Change.org:

1. People care WAAAAAAY more about Kraft cheese than Ocras and dolphins.

2. Apparently selling a frozen turkey at a wrong price is a HUGE F**KING DEAL!!!! (who knew?)

3. Those bands really do not have any fans and needed that publicity... BADLY!

4. Bare Naked Ladies is more popular than Willie Nelson!??!?

5. Holy crap change.org proves there are a lot of obnoxious, whiny, terrible people on this planet with nothing else to do!!!

6. I'm considering signing the petition for Virgin Galactic to leave Justin Bieber in space forever.

--Robb "It really sucks that SeaWorld has to put up with all this crap." Alvey


Yep and this one gets 35,000 in a day......
Thousands of "Duck Dynasty" fans are on a mission to end Phil Robertson's network suspension over his anti-gay comments -- 'cause they say A&E is denying him his human rights.

Over 35 THOUSAND people have signed a petition -- which fired up yesterday on Change.org -- demanding A&E end the suspension.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:03 am
by SharkTums
Sea World decided to finally answer all the idiots out there with a very nice open letter:

Official link: http://seaworld.com/en/ourcare/Letter

We would like to encourage as many people as possible to share that link on your Facebook, Twitter, etc...

SeaWorld: The Truth Is in Our Parks and People

An Open Letter from SeaWorld’s Animal Advocates

Inaccurate reports recently have generated questions about SeaWorld and the animals in our care. The truth is in our parks and people, and it’s time to set the record straight.

The men and women of SeaWorld are true animal advocates. We are the 1,500 scientists, researchers, veterinarians, trainers, marine biologists, aquarists, aviculturists, educators and conservationists who have dedicated our lives to the animals in our care as well as those in the wild that are injured, ill or orphaned. Whether it’s a sea lion, manatee, sea turtle or whale, we are on call 24/7.

Here are some important facts about SeaWorld and our work:

SeaWorld does not capture killer whales in the wild. Due to the groundbreaking success of our research in marine mammal reproduction, we haven’t collected a killer whale from the wild in 35 years. In fact, only two of the whales in our care were collected by SeaWorld and they continue to be in our care today. In addition, our research has led to a much greater understanding of whales in the wild, giving researchers important scientific insights surrounding marine mammal reproduction.

We do not separate killer whale moms and calves. SeaWorld recognizes the important bond between mother and calf. On the rare occasion that a mother killer whale cannot care for the calf herself, we have successfully hand raised and reintroduced the calf. Whales are only moved to maintain a healthy social structure.

SeaWorld invests millions of dollars in the care of our killer whales. In the last three years alone, we have invested $70 million in our killer whale habitats and millions of dollars annually in support of these facilities. Our habitats are among the largest in the world today. They are state-of-the-art, multimillion-gallon environments of cooled and filtered water that allow for the highest and safest standards of care. We give our animals restaurant-quality fish, exercise, veterinary care, mental stimulation, and the company of other members of their species.

SeaWorld’s killer whales’ life spans are equivalent with those in the wild. While studies continue to define the average life span of killer whales in the wild, the most recent science suggests that our killer whales’ life spans are comparable — indeed, five of our animals are older than 30, and one of our whales is close to 50.

The killer whales in our care benefit those in the wild. We work with universities, governmental agencies and NGOs to increase the body of knowledge about and the understanding of killer whales — from their anatomy and reproductive biology to their auditory abilities. Some populations of wild killer whales have been classified as endangered or threatened, demonstrating the potential critical nature of these research opportunities. This type of controlled research and study is simply not possible in the wild, and has significant real-world benefits to the killer whales that live there.

SeaWorld is a world leader in animal rescue. The millions of people who visit our parks each year make possible SeaWorld’s world-renowned work in rescue, rehabilitation and release. We are constantly innovating when it comes to this care: Our veterinarians have created nursing bottles to hand-feed orphaned whales, prosthetics to save sea turtles, and a wetsuit to help injured manatees stay afloat during rehabilitation. Whether it’s the result of natural or man-made disasters, SeaWorld is always on call and often the first to be contacted. We have rescued more than 23,000 animals with the goal of treating and returning them to the wild.

Naturalist Baba Dioum put it best when he said, “In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we understand; and we will understand only what we have been taught.”

At SeaWorld, this has been our calling since we first opened our doors 50 years ago. It is a responsibility we do not take lightly. More than 400 million guests have visited SeaWorld. We are proud that their experiences here have a lasting and positive impact on them, and on the world in which we live.

The truth about SeaWorld is right here in our parks and people. Our guests may enter our gates having never given much thought to the remarkable animals in our oceans. When they leave with a greater appreciation for the importance of the sea, educated about the animals that live there and inspired to make a difference, we have done our job.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:36 am
by Mrlittle
^ I am so glad they did that. I know it won't probably change the idiots out there but at least they got to give some facts.

Re: SeaWorld Orlando (SWO) Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:06 am
by Woodie Warrior
SeaWorld was smart to release the letter. It's good to see them finally standing up for themselves.