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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby CedarFair1 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:53 am

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canadianparkfan wrote:^^^^Again, it's CF. since when is theming a priority? If you really wanna wait/hope guardian gets completed, you could always prey that Wonderland pulls a Marineland (they took 20 years to eventually finish the theming on Dragon Mountain)

His complaint about WMG is valid. When it comes to dark rides, whether or not it's at a Cedar Fair park, immersiveness is the most important part. A giant black wall with a visible drop track and a bunch of technology out in the open? Not immersive at all. It looks like a warehouse with a coaster running through it.

I mean, for less than what WMG cost, Six Flags got Justice League, which I have ridden and, while I haven't ridden WMG, I'm sure JL blows it out of the water. The queue is immersive enough, the ride looks completed and has a nice balance of physical and digital sets, and it has a nice simulator ending. (BTW, I know most CW visitors will never ride JL, but I just wanted to point out that SF delivered a much better ride than CF did with a smaller budget.)

As for the comments about lack of a coaster: Can you CW fanboys just STFU please? Your whining about not getting a new coaster is annoying. Sorry you can't get a mega coaster every year, and like others have mentioned, lots of CF parks need new coasters more than you do. Be happy with your two new flats, which is the next best thing to a coaster. As far as I know, VF, MiA, and DP haven't announced any new rides yet. Be thankful for getting TWO.


If you haven't ridden guardian how do you know if his complaint is valid or not. As far as "seeing" the drop track goes I've never heard anyone in line saying "hey look at that drop track over there" they just see the door open then the train comes out they see their scores and get off the ride with a big smile on their face cause the drop gets your pulse going


Families love the ride, absolutely love the ride. Is it ugly to us comparing it to other dark rides... YES, very ugly. Is it more complex then justice league oh hell yes, more technology went into it but without the looks to go with it it just looks like a manufacturing plant..

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby tanthonyam » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:58 pm

It will look alot like Windseeker. Very similar. It may confuse guests.

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby ImNotOneOfYou » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:39 pm

When/how did the launched Wing coaster rumor start? Was it from unsatisfied CW enthusiasts thinking a B&M hyper and giga isn't enough?
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby DILinator » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:54 pm

^I don't know how it started, but I for one, believe CW will be getting a new large coaster in 2017, and I also agree that it will be a Wing Coaster, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's even launched. But multiple launches? I rather doubt it, personally...

As for all of this grateful/ungrateful talk... Look... I grew up through the years of Cedar Fair regularly building a new coaster (or another major investment) every other year at Cedar Point. I also remember my Canadian friends back in the 90's raving about CW, and us getting into debates about which park was better. When I finally went to CW in the 2000's, I saw what the hype was about. It was a large, very nice park! It IS comparable to CP in many ways, though I still don't think it's better than CP. But it's definitely the second best seasonal park in the chain from a monetary/attendance/investment standpoint. It's the banner park of an entire country - I don't know if CP can even claim that - and it gets treated as such. Now, I'm not a CW fanboy or anything, but to me, as an observer of CF, CW, and how they operate, I think it's pretty clear that they are going to get larger cap-ex investments, more frequently, compared to the middle and lower tier CF parks. I don't think the expectation of that every few years constitutes "ungratefulness" on the part of CW fans. Rather, it's it's a result of looking at past practice, and the particulars of the market and situation CW resides in. I was the same way with Cedar Point growing up. Every couple years, we had a new coaster. Looking forward to that didn't make me ungrateful for what CP already had. It was simply a result of knowing that's simply what they did, based on past practice.
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby CedarFair1 » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:49 pm

ImNotOneOfYou wrote:When/how did the launched Wing coaster rumor start? Was it from unsatisfied CW enthusiasts thinking a B&M hyper and giga isn't enough?


It started from a bunch of land clearing going around skyriders old spot, and around Minebuster and the two new thrill rides announced are not going in those spots. Also to news outlets the parks rep said from what you've seen added to the park since 2008 and on you should expect something amazing. They then went on to say Wonderland was under a multi year large redevelopment project. sources posted below, I think the end of this multi year large redevelopment project will be 2 new thrills in 2016 a large wing coaster in 2017 new resturaunt and family/. waterpark in 2018 and hotel in 2019 or hotel in 2017 with the coaster launch as we know accommodations/ hotels are being built in 2017 and 2019.

According to Phillips, Wonderland will be undergoing a large redevelopment program after Sept. 1. Currently, SkyRider sits on 5,100 square metres of prime space right between the Splash Works and the mountain. Here, Wonderland saw an opportunity. “We like to space out (our ideas) over time and we always want to be innovative and leading the industry,” Phillips said. “Guests still like it and it’s a great attraction, but you have to look within the park to understand what’s best for the future.”

Though Phillips was mum on any details about what will be happening next, he said there were “certainly” concepts in mind for a new attraction. The difficult decision to close SkyRider was due in part to the aging coaster’s location. The ride sits on 5,100 square metres of prime land between the water park and Wonder Mountain, and the park’s executives decided the spot would be a perfect place for their next big attraction.
Phillips was tight-lipped about what that attraction might be or how long it will take to complete.
“All I can tell you is it’s a very large construction project,” he said. “If you look at our history, over the last five to seven years, I think guests know it will be something exciting.”




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http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/08/07/after_29_years_skyriders_ride_comes_to_an_end.html

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby canadianparkfan » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:18 pm

^Exactly. The "history" of the last 5 years was Leviathan and Windseeker. Roughly 7 years ago, we got Behemoth.

The new flats next year and coaster in 2017 make a lot of sense, and are both additions I am greatly looking toward to.
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby madmax » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:57 am

canadianparkfan wrote:^Exactly. The "history" of the last 5 years was Leviathan and Windseeker. Roughly 7 years ago, we got Behemoth.

The new flats next year and coaster in 2017 make a lot of sense, and are both additions I am greatly looking toward to.


Um, you don't know if they're getting a coaster in 2017. It could be a waterpark expansion for all we know.
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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby CedarFair1 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:13 am

madmax wrote:
canadianparkfan wrote:^Exactly. The "history" of the last 5 years was Leviathan and Windseeker. Roughly 7 years ago, we got Behemoth.

The new flats next year and coaster in 2017 make a lot of sense, and are both additions I am greatly looking toward to.


Um, you don't know if they're getting a coaster in 2017. It could be a waterpark expansion for all we know.


dude I'm sorry, I know your expecting a massive coaster at Kings Dominion in 2017 but the news articles and the massive amount of land clearing and orange markers pretty much screams were getting a coaster in 2017. In fact there was so much activity we thought it was 2016.

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby CedarFair1 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:20 am

CedarFair1 wrote:
madmax wrote:
canadianparkfan wrote:^Exactly. The "history" of the last 5 years was Leviathan and Windseeker. Roughly 7 years ago, we got Behemoth.

The new flats next year and coaster in 2017 make a lot of sense, and are both additions I am greatly looking toward to.


Um, you don't know if they're getting a coaster in 2017. It could be a waterpark expansion for all we know.


dude I'm sorry, I know your expecting a massive coaster at Kings Dominion in 2017 but the news articles and the massive amount of land clearing and orange markers pretty much screams were getting a coaster in 2017. In fact there was so much activity we thought it was 2016.



Like they always say don't predict till you see land clearing and other signs of coaster construction and well, we have seen them, infact we have more going on at our park then Cedar Point does for theyre 2016 coaster

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Re: Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

Postby Looty » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:31 am

CedarFair1 wrote:I can't even with these Canada's Wonderland fans anymore... You know we can go back to the Paramount age of adding crap coasters like Tomb Raider... GET THE F OVER YOURSELVES!!!! We are beyond spoiled and have gotten really great additions and another coaster coming in 2017...... We have had 3 coasters added in a 8 year period and make that 4 coasters added in a 10 year period once 2017 rolls around!!!!! Other parks are looking at us going WTF!!!


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