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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby BeemerBoy » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:06 pm

Potterburg is to IOA as the US bailout money was to GM. Oh sure, it sustained them, but has their overall product improved? To me....no. Granted, I'm not a Potter fan, but beyond that, the rest of the place is just feeling "tired" these days. Compare that to the other major players in the region, and I see plenty of refreshing changes and improvements happening. There's the difference.
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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby SharkTums » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:23 pm

Andrew, I totally agree that Potter helped out a bit with some 'tired' areas of the park, but a lot of those were left to rot in the first place due to potter so it's kind of a no win situation.

IOA has been in decline for years, potterverse just put a decent bandaid on it.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby COASTER FREAK 11 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:24 pm

All of these maintenance issues seem to be with universal itself, not with Potter. You'd think with the influx of money they would have brought life back to IOA but I guess they are spending the money else where.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:25 pm

BeemerBoy wrote:Granted, I'm not a Potter fan...

I think this is the biggest problem with Potterdump.

It seems like you have to be a Potter "fan" to really appreciate it. (ok, yes, obnoxious people, please post that you're not a Potter fan but you still enjoy it...but you know what I mean.)

For example, I'm not a Winnie the Pooh fan...but I *love* Pooh in Tokyo. I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I enjoy Star Tours. I'm not a Spiderman fan, but I like the attraction. People who aren't Jurassic Park fans don't need to know anything more than "Hey, there's a dinosaur" to get the attraction.

With Potter, I felt completely lost and the entire land meant nothing to me.

I went through it once, it didn't appeal to me, and I'm done. That's it. I personally don't have any reason to go back because I feel they designed that land for people who are casual Potter fans and up.

For the random person who hasn't seen the movies or read the books, it just doesn't play well to those people, and the responses you hear from the non-Potter fans even on this forum kinda reflect that.

I'm all for building a $200 million dollar ride and the equivalent expansion. But build something I can appreciate, even without having seen any of the movies.

That right there is my biggest issue with the Potter lands.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby SharkTums » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:28 pm

Potter fans are like B&M fans, you just can't argue with them! :p

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Jew » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:29 pm

^^That's definitely the downside of being so strict about sticking to the stories. All those rides you mentioned have something else in common: they tell you the story. I thought the WWoHP looked really good, the ride system was cool...but I didn't understand the story at all. The queue didn't tell me the story. The ride didn't tell me the story. It made no sense because it was apparently a really good re-creation of Hogwarts.

I hope in Hollywood's version they will make it easier for the non Potter fans to understand.
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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Meteornotes » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:34 pm

^^That needs to be put on a shirt.

Robb's post is 100% correct. I've never seen a Potter movie or read one the books, and don't really know any of the story beyond he's a wizard. I think the land really does appeal to fans only, or at least people that have some knowledge of it ahead of time. While I admired the technology of Forbidden Journey, the story left me cold as I could not connect to it in any way. And despite what many think, I would guess there's a larger segment of the population that has little/no knowledge of Potter than those that do.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:44 pm

^ The Potter fans will tell you differently Dave. Let's face it, if you don't live and breathe Potter, you're obviously dumb.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Swimace » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:48 pm

SharkTums wrote:IOA has been in decline for years, potterverse just put a decent bandaid on it.


I think this largely sums up a lot of my thoughts about IOA. I don't think Potter is totally to blame for the lackluster nature of IOA today, I think it more has to do with a decade of indifferent management and virtually zero investment. At least with Potter someone cares about the park again, and we can at least *hope* to see exciting things in the future.


robbalvey wrote:For example, I'm not a Winnie the Pooh fan...but I *love* Pooh in Tokyo.


You're absolutely right, and I see what you're getting at with Forbidden Journey.

And this is sort of my hope for the Jaws replacement. If the Gringots (or however you spell that) coaster rumor is true, I think that'll translate more to the general park guest. "Hey, it's a big coaster through a bunch of caves and treasure chambers... cool". Like Mummy is awesome no matter who you are, *hopefully* this will be the same way.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Philrad71 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:22 pm

It's kind of like today's youthful adults will never truly be able to appreciate 80s porn.


That is one of the funniest juxtapositions I have ever read and I'm not just saying that because it was from the leader of the pack. :lol:

Comedy gold, right there, Robb...not to sound like a fanboy, but that's one of the reasons why I love this site.

And yeah, I agree...eff Harry Potter.
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