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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby ginzo » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:08 pm

AstroDan wrote:It's widely acclaimed by Potter fanboys as the best dark ride ever built.


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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Jakizle » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:27 pm

Swimace wrote:I honestly don't think it's ruining the parks as much as a lot of people say. Frankly, I think the Potter thing is such a big craze that it's polarizing enthusiast's opinions to "omg excited" to "Universal is dead to me".

Am I the only one that doesn't think that IoA got drastically worse after Potter? Hulk, Poseidon, Dudley Do-Right, Jurassic Park, and Spiderman all got rehabs and now run better than before Potter came in. I mean, sure it's annoying that the GP now think of this as the "Harry Potter theme park".... and yeah I was bummed we lost the Lost Continent and Dueling Dragon's original queue line... but I don't think the loss of one queue line and a couple of huge statues "ruined the park"

And for the record, I'm sad Jaws is going. But if we're going to get an indoor coaster with theming that's on par with Forbidden Journey? We may be getting another one of the best themed thrill rides ever created. Again, I don't really get how that's going to ruin the park.

Honestly, I haven't read any of the HP books, I saw most of the movies and enjoyed them, but am far from fanatic about them. But if this is increases attendance and guest spending to the point that Universal wants to go ahead and add new $100 million+ attractions? Sure, go for it!

Just my opinion at least...


I just wanted to say this is basically my stance on the whole thing too. Granted I've never been to IOA before Potter...

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby SharkTums » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:31 pm

^No offense meant to Jake or any of you but...

Jake, you're 20 years old, that means IOA opened when you were 8 years old. There is no way you have memories of the place back then the way us 'old folks' do.

The park outside of Potterdump is worse now than it was then and it's sad for a lot of us.

I just hope all of you can understand and stop questioning those of us who have been visiting regularly since 1999. Paint and rehabs are great and all, but it's just not the same.

You want a concrete example, look at the Mythos building. Forget how they've dumbed down the menu, or don't fill the restaurant anymore, just look at the building. They are letting it rot away, it's moldy and disgusting on the outside.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Meteornotes » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:35 pm

^This. IOA when it opened was like DisneySeas. It was stunning. There was nothing else in the US like it. Now, it's really sad how they've let the place go. This is what annoys a lot of us. The park should really be in better shape than it is, given the money they're making. They shouldn't just focus on Potter, but the whole guest experience.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:39 pm

The message in Jake's post is both alarming and depressing. What it tells me is that "The dumbed down IOA that new visitors are seeing today is 'good enough' to impress, that they don't need to bother making it look like the IOA of 1999."

That sucks. But it's the reality.

It's kind of like today's youthful adults will never truly be able to appreciate 80s porn. :(
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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby BeemerBoy » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:45 pm

I'll just echo the last three posts. Actually, this sums it up:

Paint and rehabs are great and all, but it's just not the same.


Even though I may disagree with some of Disney's moves over the years, at least there's still plenty at each park that gives me that "comfortable, feels like old times" vibe. It's become clear to me over the last five years or so that IOA will always just be a "bottom line" park with no real "feel" to it anymore.
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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Swimace » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:49 pm

I've been going to the park since it's opening season, and here's my view on this.

The park opened and it was great. I loved the original IOA, Dueling Dragons was my first major rollercoaster, Spiderman blew my mind, Mythos was omfg amazing, etc etc.

But, between the parks first few years and the Potter period, the park just sort of fell into a slow decline. There were no major additions and the park slowly started looking worse and worse. Frankly, I think IOA a year before Potter came into the park was just bad. The rides looked like crap, the place was hardly ever packed, and the operations weren't any better than they were now. It was a half day park at best.

Potter changed the park, and yeah it's not the awesome IoA we once had... but at least the company cares about the park again.

And also, just to add... my first visit to IOA was what turned me into a theme park enthusiast. Yeah, it was simply one of the best theme park experiences you could ever have. But that theme park was long gone way before Potter came into the picture.
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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby gforce532 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:50 pm

Ive been looking alot at Google maps of the resort alot the last couple days. And I am wondering what is the area behind Simpsons and Men in Black used for. Because that can be room for another expansion that is actually a little bit bigger than Jaws.

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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:58 pm

Swimace wrote:I honestly don't think it's ruining the parks as much as a lot of people say. Frankly, I think the Potter thing is such a big craze that it's polarizing enthusiast's opinions to "omg excited" to "Universal is dead to me".

Am I the only one that doesn't think that IoA got drastically worse after Potter? Hulk, Poseidon, Dudley Do-Right, Jurassic Park, and Spiderman all got rehabs and now run better than before Potter came in. I mean, sure it's annoying that the GP now think of this as the "Harry Potter theme park".... and yeah I was bummed we lost the Lost Continent and Dueling Dragon's original queue line... but I don't think the loss of one queue line and a couple of huge statues "ruined the park"

Just my opinion at least...


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Re: Universal Orlando Discussion Thread

Postby Jakizle » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:59 pm

SharkTums wrote:^No offense meant to Jake or any of you but...

Jake, you're 20 years old, that means IOA opened when you were 8 years old. There is no way you have memories of the place back then the way us 'old folks' do.

The park outside of Potterdump is worse now than it was then and it's sad for a lot of us.

I just hope all of you can understand and stop questioning those of us who have been visiting regularly since 1999. Paint and rehabs are great and all, but it's just not the same.

You want a concrete example, look at the Mythos building. Forget how they've dumbed down the menu, or don't fill the restaurant anymore, just look at the building. They are letting it rot away, it's moldy and disgusting on the outside.



robbalvey wrote:The message in Jake's post is both alarming and depressing. What it tells me is that "The dumbed down IOA that new visitors are seeing today is 'good enough' to impress, that they don't need to bother making it look like the IOA of 1999."

That sucks. But it's the reality.

It's kind of like today's youthful adults will never truly be able to appreciate 80s porn. :(


Oh I totally trust you guys on how it used to be, and I even said in my post that I've never been before Potter, so IOA with Potter is all I can base my view on. I'm just happy the park is building new stuff with the popularity and income from the success of Potter. That's really all, a bit selfish :/

When places go down hill it is really sad, SFFT for example. That park used to be great but over the last few years their operations have dropped to the worse I have EVER seen in the amusement industry and the park is absolutely filthy. When it comes to IOA I just don't know how it used to be and that's all I meant!

And like Andrew said, I don't even like Potter. I'm not really into any of the films or specific theming of any rides out there. I'm more of a person that just enjoys the rides regardless of what they are. I guess that's why I don't personally see a problem currently because my time in the park is sort of unaffected by the changes I guess. If it brings in the cash and allows for expansion I'm cool with that, it just sucks to hear that it's effected the rest of the park in the eyes of you guys who have visited since the park opened and appreciate(d) those aspects.

Not sure if that's the best way to word it, I just enjoy the rides and the experiences that come with them currently. I know I'm still young though and a thrill seeker and I'm looking forward to being able to appreciate different things from a different point-of-view as I grow up and experience more.
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