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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RollerColester » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:22 am

RCjunkie wrote:
RollerColester wrote:An RMC Excalibur would be incredible.


RMC does not give that treatment to steel coasters, only wooden ones.


Guess there would be a first time for everything me boy! Structure is wood :)
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby budtbum » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:10 am

They wouldn't want to reuse Excalibur wood substructure for a RMC- or anything really. There are two reasons for it- first it isn't much of a structure- compare it to Renegade. Excalibur has very little to it.
The second reason is far more substantial- there is a design flaw on the footings. Valleyfair is on a floodplain and they used small footings.... I'm not design engineer, and I don't do roller coaster maintenance....but I seriously suspect those small footings has a lot to do with the roughness of the ride. If they sink or shift at different rates, they would have to re-trim. Excalibur can be smooth or rough depending on when you're at the park. Is that because the ground dried up or because they re-trimmed it?
Renegade on the other hand got a great cement pad put in place below it. So all of it's substructure stays nice and straight.

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RollerColester » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:14 am

I know it will never happen. Just saying the hypothetical layout would be pretty insane.
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RCjunkie » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:53 am

RollerColester wrote:
RCjunkie wrote:
RollerColester wrote:An RMC Excalibur would be incredible.


RMC does not give that treatment to steel coasters, only wooden ones.


Guess there would be a first time for everything me boy! Structure is wood :)


It is a wood support for a steel coaster. It is not a wooden coaster. How would they 'RMC' steel track? Please explain.

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby RollerColester » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:00 pm

RCjunkie wrote:It is a wood support for a steel coaster. It is not a wooden coaster. How would they 'RMC' steel track? Please explain.


You would loosen ALL of the bolts that connect the dated Arrow track to the wood supports. Which would all allow you to then remove the steel track all together, leaving just the wood structure to work with. Therefore, taking the steel track out of play all together. The same type of process that RMC would use when renovating 100% wooden coasters. They remove all the wooden track and work with an existing structure to install their track. They install new steel beams for the new RMC track to rest on.

Lets just move on if it's that hard to imagine... It will never happen anyway. Again, I was just saying you could create a wicked layout based off of the current layout.

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby garyman6 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:03 am

garyman6 wrote:I did hear yesterday from a former GM that, as far as he knows, Valleyfair has not gotten funding approval for the new berm work yet! But, as stated, they can extend the permit date. I have not yet been able to find an expiration date to the MWCA permit yet. I'll continue to work on that!


I just received my answer to the above question;

Hi Gary,

There has been revisions to the NOD, the latest dated 3-22-18. I have attached the most recent revised NOD. The NOD is valid for 5 years, so this would expire 3-22-2023.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks.

Kirby Templin, PE
Water Resource – Environmental Engineer, City of Shakopee
485 Gorman St., Shakopee MN 55379

As you can see, there has been revisions on dating back to 3-22-18 and this permit is good until 3-22-2023. This is still an active, ongoing pursuit for Valleyfair! We all thought it was dead but it is not dead. Plus we know that this work won't start until funding approval is given for the waterpark/parking lot project. So, Cedar Fair has some real deadlines to work within unless they want to get an extension. I'm just going out on a limb here and I'm going to predict that Cedar Fair will act on these permits and work within the deadlines. They may need an extension for the AC of E permit due to its expiration at the end of 2020. But that work can be completed before that date. So, look for work to begin in the spring as soon as they can get out there!

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby garyman6 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:06 am

1811-660 - NOD - Valleyfair Expansion_rev032218.pdf
Here is the Notice of Decision
(123.12 KiB) Not downloaded yet

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby ytterbiumanalyst » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:23 am

Thanks for all your work on this (and yay for government transparency too!). I'm excited to see what Valleyfair has in mind, whenever it happens.
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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby Mdcastle » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:20 am

Went to the haunt last night. Worst year ever. Instead of fog machines and decorations they have portable floodlights everywhere outside the scare zones completely ruining the atmosphere. Blood on the Boundary Waters was fun, but Darkness Awaits seemed to be just a couple of random scareactors in an undecorated area that was pretty well lit from the waterpark lights that were also turned on. I asume this is a reaction to the knife fight last year, but this is why we can't have nice things (and couldn't they just get a few IR cameras?)

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Re: Valleyfair (VF) Discussion Thread

Postby Donomike05 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:59 am

Mdcastle wrote:Went to the haunt last night. Worst year ever. Instead of fog machines and decorations they have portable floodlights everywhere outside the scare zones completely ruining the atmosphere. Blood on the Boundary Waters was fun, but Darkness Awaits seemed to be just a couple of random scareactors in an undecorated area that was pretty well lit from the waterpark lights that were also turned on. I asume this is a reaction to the knife fight last year, but this is why we can't have nice things (and couldn't they just get a few IR cameras?)

No fog this year? If highway 101 isn’t cover with fog by the end of the night than Valleyscare has failed.

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