The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby E. Robert Pugh » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:08 pm

bostonlva wrote:I don't know if it's good news or bad news that SFMM seems to be the only park that has zero leaks/news/rumors about its 2018 attraction. Usually we have something (even just a rumor by now. Also. No markers


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Postby thrillseeker4552 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:29 pm

I'm not completely sure what to think when it comes to SFMM for 2018. By then, it will have been three years since a new coaster, so I could see it going two ways. Either they take a small off-year (since Justice League was a huge project) and add some flats (Giant Discovery PLEASE), or they surprise us and add their 20th coaster. If so, it would be 2013 all over again with Knott's, CGA, and SFMM all getting new coasters.

Refurbished Viper would be great, as well. I don't have a problem with it the way it is, but if giving it new trains keeps it around longer, I'm all for it.
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Postby Manic Monte » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:36 pm

I'm thinking that whatever they're doing won't require any sort of construction until next April/May anyway.

That leads me to think Sky Screamer/Giant Discovery or some other sort of flat.

The year they upgraded Superman and added Green Lantern it was quiet like this as well. The California parks have done a good job of keeping leaks from happening this year. Knotts announces Wed, and people still can't quite agree what it is.

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby Superbatboy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:22 pm

Well out of the 5 parks that are getting first of it's kind/record breakers, we know SFFT and SFGradv are on that list. So that leaves 3 remaining parks to receive them as well. I think we can scratch off SFOG, I dont think Cyclone will be a record breaker. SFNE is getting a giant discovery, SFStl is rumored to get a water coaster. I would assume between La Ronde, SFM, and SFDK, two of the 3 would receive the 2 rumored S&S 4Ds for 2018. So that leaves SFOT, SFA, SFMM, and SFGAM (i know I left out Great Escape but i mean come on) in the running for record breakers/first of its kind. Which MAYBE means SFMM gets the tallest SkyScreamer or by some stretch tallest dive coaster??

SF and Cedar Fair have done a great job keeping us guessing this year.
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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby jonskinny12 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:34 pm

Superbatboy wrote:Well out of the 5 parks that are getting first of it's kind/record breakers


I think I missed something here. Are 5 SF parks getting first of its kind/record breaking rides within some specific time frame?

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby MagicMountainMan » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:55 pm

It really has been surprisingly quiet in regards any new ride or attraction... But the new Revolution announcement also wasn't really leaked ahead of time either. Usually the big projects leak or they start surveying which gives it away. I'd like to believe that this next year will be a year of a nice flat ride, but with the park in panic mode after a relatively weak summer who knows what will happen... It makes announcements exciting!

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby singemfrc » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:39 pm

moviemansig wrote:[4b] Is X2 usually up-and-running right from the get go?

The quick answer is not usually. X2 has a habit of being slow to open, sometimes 15-30 mins after the park. It also is very sensitive to rain and wind and will close quickly with just a bit of either. Watch the track before you're entering the park and watch/listen for trains being test cycled. If you don't see any trains cycling before the park opens, it won't open immediately. If you have the free FP ride with the platinum, just hit it later and start with something sure to be open.

VegasBaby wrote:It kinda pisses me off how many restrictions that SFMM has on their FPs. I understand limiting reservations on new rides like Justice League or terrible capacity rides like Superman, but there's no reason to limit reservations on rides like FT, TC, or X2. When I got FL Plus at CP, there were no limits on how many times I could ride Maverick, Valravn, TTD, MF, etc.
I'm not sure you really do understand, because TC and X2 are both limited due to capacity (and/or popularity in X2's case - it could probably take unrestricted FP if it were average popularity, but it's always popular) and TC is limited because it's the newest major coaster, and I think a large # of FP riders might affect the operators' ability to keep the trains dueling...I'm not sure as I've never FP'd that ride and can't recall where FP joins the que)
And also regarding X2, it used to be upcharge & reservation for platinum only, then it was $+res for Gold+, now they've made a free one time res for Platinum - they're certainly trying. In a park we all love to rip on for operations I'm for giving credit where I think it's due.

MagicMountainMan wrote:It really has been surprisingly quiet in regards any new ride or attraction... But the new Revolution announcement also wasn't really leaked ahead of time either. Usually the big projects leak or they start surveying which gives it away. I'd like to believe that this next year will be a year of a nice flat ride, but with the park in panic mode after a relatively weak summer who knows what will happen... It makes announcements exciting!

Yeah I'm pretty sure it will be a flat, probably the same Giant Discovery SFDK got. Could be a really great addition.

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby moviemansig » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:52 pm

VegasBaby wrote:
moviemansig wrote:I have some questions about the flash pass. [1] If you purchase the flash pass in advance online, how long do you typically have to wait to pick it up once you get to the park? [2] When does the flash pass center open? [3] If you get the platinum level, do you still have to make a time reservation for the rides you want to do? [4] Is the $15 upcharge worth it on X2? [4a] If not, should you run to it first? [4b] Is X2 usually up-and-running right from the get go? [5] If you wanted to sit in the front for Tatsu and Goliath (for example), would they let you? [6] For a group of three of four, can each person have their own flash pass device? [7] Lastly, what does single reservation mean? Thanks a lot.


I'll try to answer these for you:

1) There is a separate line for people who've purchased the FP online, so the wait should be minimal to pick it up (5-10 minutes). I've noticed this summer that there have been FP reps in the entrance plaza, so you may be able to pick it up before the park opens.

2) The FP center opens with the park and stays open after park closing time.

3) You don't have to make reservations for a specific time, but you still have to reserve each ride. With the Platinum FP, the ride reservation is typically available right away or within 5-10 minutes. The thing to do is make your next ride reservation as soon as you get scanned in for your current ride.

4) There is no longer an upcharge for X2 on the Platinum FP, you get a one-time reservation now. It's still an upcharge on Gold.

4b) X2 is generally open with the park, but it's easy to tell if it's not. If a ride goes down, you can cancel your reservation for that ride and pick something else, then reserve that ride again later when it opens back up.

5) There are no seating restrictions for the FP, so yes you can sit in the front rows if you want.

6) Each person can have their own FP device, but you would have to pay for each one separately. If you're going to stay together the whole day, it's easier to just have one device for the whole group.

7) Single reservation means you only get one reservation on the FP and once you use it, it's gone. For example, you get a single reservation for Fu11 Throttle and if you want to ride it again, you would have to wait in the normal line. For rides like Tatsu and Goliath, you can reserve them as much as you want as there are no limits on those rides. It kinda pisses me off how many restrictions that SFMM has on their FPs. I understand limiting reservations on new rides like Justice League or terrible capacity rides like Superman, but there's no reason to limit reservations on rides like FT, TC, or X2. When I got FL Plus at CP, there were no limits on how many times I could ride Maverick, Valravn, TTD, MF, etc.


4b) Prior to making your ride reservation will you know if a ride is down?

7) Is single ride (Superman) the same as single reservation?

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby singemfrc » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:54 pm

moviemansig wrote:4b) Prior to making your ride reservation will you know if a ride is down?

7) Is single ride (Superman) the same as single reservation?

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If it's down for the day or long term, the FP office will tell you. They probably won't know if it's just going to be late opening.

Single ride is the same as single reservation. The only ride that used to literally make reservations as in you had to schedule it at the beginning of the day was X2, but I heard they don't do that anymore, you can just show up whatever time you want once per day.

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Re: The Six Flags Magic Mountain (SFMM) Discussion Thread

Postby VegasBaby » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:04 pm

moviemansig wrote:4b) Prior to making your ride reservation will you know if a ride is down?

7) Is single ride (Superman) the same as single reservation?

Thanks.


If a ride is down, then it won't let you make a reservation for it. When rides come back online your qbot buzzes to let you know. And yes, single ride does mean single reservation.

X2 has decent capacity when running two trains but it's still extremely popular, so you may have any argument for limiting FPs (although Gold should get a free reservation too, IMO). But TC is two years old and almost always runs three trains, so the capacity argument doesn't hold water. It almost always has shorter lines than Tatsu, yet Tatsu is unlimited on the FP and TC is still limited to a single reservation. You just don't get the same value out of the FPs at SFMM that you do at SFGAm/SFGAdv or any of the CF parks.
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