SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby LegendLover » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:47 pm

John Peck wrote:
RAWKIN_coaster38 wrote:
cfc wrote:
larrygator wrote:Save teh Zehper!


OK, who's got a truck?

I'll volunteer my Honda Accord.


That might work... those Honda Accord's are as tough as nails!


I'll come with my Honda CRV as well.

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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby Canobie Coaster » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:50 pm

LegendLover wrote:
John Peck wrote:
RAWKIN_coaster38 wrote:
cfc wrote:
larrygator wrote:Save teh Zehper!


OK, who's got a truck?

I'll volunteer my Honda Accord.


That might work... those Honda Accord's are as tough as nails!


I'll come with my Honda CRV as well.


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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby LegendLover » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:58 pm

Looking further into the issue of what to do with the site, the main developer that wants the site as of now is TPC-NOLA, a section of the Paidia Company that focuses on attraction design and planning. They are Louisiana based, but most of their clients are European theme park companies, their most prominent client is Merlin Entertainment. Yep, they were behind projects such as Wickerman, Oblivion, the new Colossos, and the Legoland projects. At least in creating the designs for such projects. In 2014, they were the only group to submit a bid to buy the park in time. As of 2014, they had secured 90% of the financing they would need to not only reopen the park, but to BUY the land from the city. Why does it seem like the city is so determined to just bulldoze the park when there is a reputable company that has a plan with funding to buy and reopen the park?

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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby OldJJman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:48 pm

I can’t believe there is still discussion about this park.

The park was a complete failure, from the beginning. After its’ first two years of losing major $$, they (Alpha Smartparks, who owned Castle Park in Riverside, CA, where I bought my annual pass for $22.50 for all parks they owned.) were forced to sell at a major loss. SFI stepped in thinking they could make it work by adding a couple more coasters and trees (which were definitely needed!). However, the demographics could not, and would not, support this park. Over its’ 3 year operating ownership, it lost far more money each year.

It was far easier for SFI to file bankruptcy, then to pour any more $$ into a FAILING property. Think about that.

There have been numerous plans over the years to rebuild this property, but the city could not, and will not support it.

If it wasn’t for Hard Rock Park, this would be one of the largest park FAILURES to date.

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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby Vonni » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:15 pm

Just out of curiosity, do any of you feel that if the hurricane never happened, SFNO would have still failed? Or would it still be going as one of SF lower tier parks? Or maybe sold?

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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby OldJJman » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:42 pm

Vonni wrote:Just out of curiosity, do any of you feel that if the hurricane never happened, SFNO would have still failed? Or would it still be going as one of SF lower tier parks? Or maybe sold?


See my response right above your post. (And the many pages of posts before it.)

We have discussed this MANY times before, over the years.

Simply put - it would have failed. It was failing from the onset. All Katrina did, was solidify the fate of the park.
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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby SoCalJasonland » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:58 pm

If you have Hulu, the show "Abandoned S1 E9 - New Orleans DIY" has some good video footage of the local area and inside the park. I don't see much the could be salvaged, a neighborhood that could support a rebuilt park, or reason to spend 100-million plus to reopen a park in an area that will flood again.
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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby Vonni » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:09 pm

^ Oh thats cool! I'll have to check it out.


^^ I dont think it would have failed completely. I know it would have absolutely been a lower tier park, probably even lower than SFA, but I think SF would have continued to operate it with minimal additions.

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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby Nrthwnd » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:26 pm

<sighs> Hope Springs Eternal. :)

And P.S.... Jeff? I know this is old crap, to wander through again. But these are in-home times,
and some "squirrely-ness" turns into thread jumping, finding anything "new" to go through.
And comment about. Again. Been there, many times. Such is life, right now. :wink:
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Re: SFNO/Jazzland Discussion Thread

Postby Vonni » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:41 pm

^ Yep. Was just trying to start a conversation. I'm personally interested in the SFNO saga. Just thought other people may be too. Wasnt trying to irritate anyone.

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