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I always forget how much I enjoy reading and posting in this thread! Interesting stuff.

 

1999 was the year with the most new B&Ms opening. We got Afterburn, Apollo's Chariot, Batman the Ride (SFOT), Medusa/Bizarro, Dragon Challenge (2 coasters?), Georgia Scorcher, Incredible Hulk, and Raging Bull. And of these 8 (or 9?) coasters, 4 were at Six Flags parks! That's crazy to think since Six Flags have been B&M dry since 2012, and the only comparable year where they purchased that many B&Ms is 2006 (two Goliaths and Tatsu).

 

Also, 2005 was the year with the most Intamin Accelerator coasters opening. We got Kanonen, Kingda Ka, Rita, Skycar, and Superman Escape. And of these 5 coasters, they cover 4 continents! Intamin sure was busy that year.

I remember a rumor that Six Flags tried to cut costs that year and wanted to cancel Raging Bull but it was too late, so they downsized Georgia Scorcher which was originally supposed to be the size of Chang and Riddler's Revenge. Not sure how true that was, but interesting nonetheless

 

That definitely makes sense.

 

2006 was also a quite expensive year for Six Flags. They purchased two B&M Hypers, a huge B&M Flyer, and El Toro after having just built Kingda Ka the year before. But then again, Six Flags lost two parks in 2005 (SFNO and SFAW), so maybe they got some extra cash from that? Fun speculation.

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Speaking of busy manufacturers...

GCI is opening five coasters next year, the most ever in the company's history. I feel like GCI is definitely growing somewhat similar to Gravity Group. You know, how they opened all those woodies in China (Fireball, Dauling Dragons). I can definitely see more Python in Bamboo Forests and Wood Coasters (Knight Valley). Two GCIs are opening in China in 2017. I look forward to more awesome GCIs opening up in the future!

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I always forget how much I enjoy reading and posting in this thread! Interesting stuff.

 

1999 was the year with the most new B&Ms opening. We got Afterburn, Apollo's Chariot, Batman the Ride (SFOT), Medusa/Bizarro, Dragon Challenge (2 coasters?), Georgia Scorcher, Incredible Hulk, and Raging Bull. And of these 8 (or 9?) coasters, 4 were at Six Flags parks! That's crazy to think since Six Flags have been B&M dry since 2012, and the only comparable year where they purchased that many B&Ms is 2006 (two Goliaths and Tatsu).

 

Also, 2005 was the year with the most Intamin Accelerator coasters opening. We got Kanonen, Kingda Ka, Rita, Skycar, and Superman Escape. And of these 5 coasters, they cover 4 continents! Intamin sure was busy that year.

I remember a rumor that Six Flags tried to cut costs that year and wanted to cancel Raging Bull but it was too late, so they downsized Georgia Scorcher which was originally supposed to be the size of Chang and Riddler's Revenge. Not sure how true that was, but interesting nonetheless

 

You know, I've always thought it was odd for Six Flags to go for a smaller stand-up after the progression the coaster type had gone though. So that totally makes sense.

 

And honestly it's better than the larger ones. It's the only perfectly smooth one.

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The 270° roll on Top Thrill Dragster was never in the original design. Intamin proposed it to CP saying it would be a neat effect, and a safe way to transition from vertical to horizontal. It is a way to keep passengers' CG around the center of their bodies and to avoid lateral g's.

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I always forget how much I enjoy reading and posting in this thread! Interesting stuff.

 

1999 was the year with the most new B&Ms opening. We got Afterburn, Apollo's Chariot, Batman the Ride (SFOT), Medusa/Bizarro, Dragon Challenge (2 coasters?), Georgia Scorcher, Incredible Hulk, and Raging Bull. And of these 8 (or 9?) coasters, 4 were at Six Flags parks! That's crazy to think since Six Flags have been B&M dry since 2012, and the only comparable year where they purchased that many B&Ms is 2006 (two Goliaths and Tatsu).

 

Also, 2005 was the year with the most Intamin Accelerator coasters opening. We got Kanonen, Kingda Ka, Rita, Skycar, and Superman Escape. And of these 5 coasters, they cover 4 continents! Intamin sure was busy that year.

I remember a rumor that Six Flags tried to cut costs that year and wanted to cancel Raging Bull but it was too late, so they downsized Georgia Scorcher which was originally supposed to be the size of Chang and Riddler's Revenge. Not sure how true that was, but interesting nonetheless

 

I was told that Six Flags wanted to add a Medusa/Bizzaro clone as opposed to Raging Bull, but Great America already purchased Bull without corporate's permission. Corp. tried to convince them to stop the construction but GAm convinced theme otherwise.

 

Never knew Scorcher was affected by this

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The last 2 times that Labor Day has fallen on September 5th..

 

-A B&M Stand-up closed (Iron Wolf in 2011 and Vortex in 2016)

 

-Six Flags New England closed a water ride for a new coaster the following year (Shipwreck Falls for Goliath in 2011, Splashwater Falls for Joker in 2016)

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- Grizzly at Kings Dominion was modeled after the famous Coney Island Wildcat.

 

Grizzly was actually modeled after Wilde Beast at Canada's Wonderland (built a year earlier), that was modeled after the famous Coney Island Wildcat

 

Huh. That IS weird. I could've sworn the designers had just watched a YouTube video of someone being placed in a trash can, set on fire, thrown down a flight of granite stairs, and then thought to themselves, "Hmm... how can we simulate this experience with a roller coaster?"

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- Grizzly at Kings Dominion was modeled after the famous Coney Island Wildcat.

 

Grizzly was actually modeled after Wilde Beast at Canada's Wonderland (built a year earlier), that was modeled after the famous Coney Island Wildcat

 

Huh. That IS weird. I could've sworn the designers had just watched a YouTube video of someone being placed in a trash can, set on fire, thrown down a flight of granite stairs, and then thought to themselves, "Hmm... how can we simulate this experience with a roller coaster?"

 

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I always forget how much I enjoy reading and posting in this thread! Interesting stuff.

 

1999 was the year with the most new B&Ms opening. We got Afterburn, Apollo's Chariot, Batman the Ride (SFOT), Medusa/Bizarro, Dragon Challenge (2 coasters?), Georgia Scorcher, Incredible Hulk, and Raging Bull. And of these 8 (or 9?) coasters, 4 were at Six Flags parks! That's crazy to think since Six Flags have been B&M dry since 2012, and the only comparable year where they purchased that many B&Ms is 2006 (two Goliaths and Tatsu).

 

Also, 2005 was the year with the most Intamin Accelerator coasters opening. We got Kanonen, Kingda Ka, Rita, Skycar, and Superman Escape. And of these 5 coasters, they cover 4 continents! Intamin sure was busy that year.

I remember a rumor that Six Flags tried to cut costs that year and wanted to cancel Raging Bull but it was too late, so they downsized Georgia Scorcher which was originally supposed to be the size of Chang and Riddler's Revenge. Not sure how true that was, but interesting nonetheless

 

I was told that Six Flags wanted to add a Medusa/Bizzaro clone as opposed to Raging Bull, but Great America already purchased Bull without corporate's permission. Corp. tried to convince them to stop the construction but GAm convinced theme otherwise.

 

Never knew Scorcher was affected by this

 

If Scorcher was affected by it, then that was a good thing. By far the best Stand-Up out there imo.

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Speaking of busy manufacturers...

GCI is opening five coasters next year, the most ever in the company's history. I feel like GCI is definitely growing somewhat similar to Gravity Group. You know, how they opened all those woodies in China (Fireball, Dauling Dragons). I can definitely see more Python in Bamboo Forests and Wood Coasters (Knight Valley). Two GCIs are opening in China in 2017. I look forward to more awesome GCIs opening up in the future!

Rocky Mountain Construction was very busy in 2016.

They opened four of their own coasters (Joker, Lightning Rod, Storm Chaser, Wildfire) plus made the track for SFGAdv's Joker. Despite RMC not having a coaster of their own for 2017, they're still busy as they're making the track for the four S&S Free Spins being built for this year.

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Speaking of busy manufacturers...

GCI is opening five coasters next year, the most ever in the company's history. I feel like GCI is definitely growing somewhat similar to Gravity Group. You know, how they opened all those woodies in China (Fireball, Dauling Dragons). I can definitely see more Python in Bamboo Forests and Wood Coasters (Knight Valley). Two GCIs are opening in China in 2017. I look forward to more awesome GCIs opening up in the future!

Rocky Mountain Construction was very busy in 2016.

They opened four of their own coasters (Joker, Lightning Rod, Storm Chaser, Wildfire) plus made the track for SFGAdv's Joker. Despite RMC not having a coaster of their own for 2017, they're still busy as they're making the track for the four S&S Free Spins being built for this year.

They're making Mean Streak's track too, which could be a massive project.

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Speaking of busy manufacturers...

GCI is opening five coasters next year, the most ever in the company's history. I feel like GCI is definitely growing somewhat similar to Gravity Group. You know, how they opened all those woodies in China (Fireball, Dauling Dragons). I can definitely see more Python in Bamboo Forests and Wood Coasters (Knight Valley). Two GCIs are opening in China in 2017. I look forward to more awesome GCIs opening up in the future!

Rocky Mountain Construction was very busy in 2016.

They opened four of their own coasters (Joker, Lightning Rod, Storm Chaser, Wildfire) plus made the track for SFGAdv's Joker. Despite RMC not having a coaster of their own for 2017, they're still busy as they're making the track for the four S&S Free Spins being built for this year.

They're making Mean Streak's track too, which could be a massive project.

2018 already looks busy for RMC, with this and (likely) Hurler, and possibly more.

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In contrast, B&M is not busy at all next year... in the US. It's the first time since 2011 they haven't built a brand new coaster for the US. Meanwhile in China... five new B&Ms are opening - a dive, a hyper, and three wings. I'm quite curious to see what these new layouts are.

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HangOver was scheduled to have a LSM (or LIM?) drive system, but Vekoma didn't get that to work properly, and they went for a more standard lift instead. The attraction was delayed, and as a compensation they gave to Liseberg two S&S towers, as Vekoma was at the time the european dealer for the Utah-based company.

The S&S towers are now gone from the park (they are in France now... Heck, just like HangOver!), but man they were fun!

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Even tho the S&S 4D are all clones, there are a couple mechanical differences I've noticed:

 

The original at SFFT had a platform and stairs leading up to them on the first trim brake. This was omitted from the installation at SFGradv and looks to have been omitted from the 2017 installations as well

 

The original at SFFT also had a mechanism in the station that would rotate the seats forward to assist rider loading and un-loading. This was also omitted from the Gradv installation. It remains to be seen if this was omitted from the 2017 models. Also makes me wonder if cost saving omissions are the reason Gradv had so many problems with Joker opening year, while Batman has been extremely reliable for SFFT.

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HangOver was scheduled to have a LSM (or LIM?) drive system, but Vekoma didn't get that to work properly, and they went for a more standard lift instead. The attraction was delayed, and as a compensation they gave to Liseberg two S&S towers, as Vekoma was at the time the european dealer for the Utah-based company.

The S&S towers are now gone from the park (they are in France now... Heck, just like HangOver!), but man they were fun!

Speaking of compensation, I wonder if Vortex and/or current Bat (Kings Island) was compensation for the issues with the original Bat.

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HangOver was scheduled to have a LSM (or LIM?) drive system, but Vekoma didn't get that to work properly, and they went for a more standard lift instead. The attraction was delayed, and as a compensation they gave to Liseberg two S&S towers, as Vekoma was at the time the european dealer for the Utah-based company.

The S&S towers are now gone from the park (they are in France now... Heck, just like HangOver!), but man they were fun!

Speaking of compensation, I wonder if Vortex and/or current Bat (Kings Island) was compensation for the issues with the original Bat.

 

I think that was the case if I remember from reading up the history on The Bat. I know it happened to Cedar Point when VertiGo collapsed. Essentially is the reason why they got Skyhawk as that was their "trade-in" value under the warranty for losing VertiGo after 1 season.

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From 1999-2017 Every MAJOR Coaster (Not counting Grovers Alpine Express) added at Busch Gardens Williamsburg was followed by a gap that corresponds to a number in the Fibonacci Sequence in reverse order starting from 8 going to 2:

Fibonaci Sequence (for reference): 1,1,2,3,5,8...

1999: Apollo

8 year gap

2007: Griffon

5 year gap

2012: Verbolten

3 year gap

2015: Tempesto

2 year gap

2017: InvadR

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