JeromyL Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Back in 2000, One of the new coaster designs from Arrow Dynamics was called the Arrow-BATic. This rides proposed first installation was at the adventuredome in Las Vegas. This ride was an inverted wild mouse able to preform numerous inversions. Blueprints were drawn up and this would have been built utilizing the upper deck area outside of the rear of the dome (with the ride footprint over the rear parking lot. Some of the elements included the same rollover like the first inversions of the SLC. An inverted flag pole (kinda like a chance tobaggen ) and several heart line rolls. Circus circus was Affraid of making that kind of capital investment and tried to get arrow to foot part of the bill. For a percentage of profits. This didn't fly and the plans were scrapped. (Instead the park put in the chaos ride). My wife used to be the admin for the head ride engineer and knowing my love for coasters, he gave me all of the blueprints for the ride. They are currently somewhere in a box in my garage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The seats and OTSR's look almost exactly like Gerstlauer Euro Fighter's. Do Fun Time and Gerstlauer have some kind of cooperation? The whole seat wagon is built by Gerstlauer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Back in 2000, One of the new coaster designs from Arrow Dynamics was called the Arrow-BATic. This rides proposed first installation was at the adventuredome in Las Vegas. This ride was an inverted wild mouse able to preform numerous inversions. This one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeromyL Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 ^^^ that's the one. But completely different layout. Adventuredome had. Hairpin turns after the station. Lift hill. Dive into half loop rollover half loop (like the SLC). Brake run. Then flag pole down ward spiral. Then I think 2 heart line rolls back to the station. I might be missing something but it's been years since I've drooled over the blue prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfmman2000 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Top Thrill Dragster has a Turbo Mode that is used in the morning to launch the trains at a faster speed than usual. I believe that speed is ~137mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynx242 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I just have to say that I have enjoyed this thread so much! Wish I had something to add, but I don't at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The contract that Six Flags has for Looney Tunes goes to 2034 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbacker27 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The contract that Six Flags has for Looney Tunes goes to 2034 I believe. Oh gosh. Could it be any longer?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Top Thrill Dragster's morning operations are dependent on the prior day's weather and operations. If the weather was bad before the park opened or if it broke down the day before, they'll open it at half-capacity and gradually add more people as the ride warms up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MBoy1982 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 What was Montu going to be then? A Stand Up? I should have said, "Early plans or concepts for Montu had it inside a pyramid." Something similar to FOF or Rocking Roller Coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groteslurf Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Top Thrill Dragster's morning operations are dependent on the prior day's weather and operations. If the weather was bad before the park opened or if it broke down the day before, they'll open it at half-capacity and gradually add more people as the ride warms up. I noticed that during our visit in 2008. They started with 4 persons, then 6 and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The contract that Six Flags has for Looney Tunes goes to 2034 I believe. Oh gosh. Could it be any longer?!? In 1984, They signed a 50 Year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MBoy1982 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Top Thrill Dragster's morning operations are dependent on the prior day's weather and operations. If the weather was bad before the park opened or if it broke down the day before, they'll open it at half-capacity and gradually add more people as the ride warms up. I noticed that during our visit in 2008. They started with 4 persons, then 6 and so on. I have been there on days when they launch 2 at a time! Then after a few launches, you would see 2 more people, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewalk13 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Maybe not that weird but it's one of my favorite coaster quirks: Gemini at Cedar Point has small, old-looking light up signs to indicate whether or not the trims are on. Edit: They say, and light up, "Trims Brakes Off" just remembered that. Edited December 14, 2013 by firewalk13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkyle Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Top Thrill Dragster's morning operations are dependent on the prior day's weather and operations. If the weather was bad before the park opened or if it broke down the day before, they'll open it at half-capacity and gradually add more people as the ride warms up. I noticed that during our visit in 2008. They started with 4 persons, then 6 and so on. I have been there on days when they launch 2 at a time! Then after a few launches, you would see 2 more people, etc. This is done to warm up the launch system on colder days (it's crazy how a few degrees can affect a coaster from barley making it to being way to fast.) and has nothing to do with whether the ride was down the day prior or not. It would rollback constantly on cold days if you loaded an a full train after empty trains. There's a big scientific answer behind this but I do not want to write a novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Maybe not that weird but it's one of my favorite coaster quirks: Gemini at Cedar Point has small, old-looking light up signs to indicate whether or not the trims are on. Where is this at? I don't believe I've ever seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewalk13 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 The signs are, if I remember correctly, mounted on a structural pillar to the right and left of the ride operators who are seated on the little raised platforms just to the left/right of the front cars. I was looking for a pic earlier and really wished I'd taken my own when I've been there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 ^ I'll keep an eye out for those next time. I always love learning about hidden things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkyle Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Those only work for the trims out behind Monster. The trims for the helix were computerized a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewalk13 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Those only work for the trims out behind Monster. The trims for the helix were computerized a few years ago. That is true, but I'm pretty sure I prefer the trims before the helixes to be on, always. it's a bit brutal as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netdvn Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Fiesta Texas planned to build a Giovanola drve machine over the cliff face in the early 2000s. The plan actually went far enough that they began construction by blasting off small segments of the cliff face. The plans fell through and the coaster moved to Dallas where it became Titan. - Fiesta Texas would be a great candidate for a dive machine/eurofighter off the side of the cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) ^ They planned a to build Togo at a time as well: Source Other random facts: - Flight of Fear was designed with a totally flat MCBR, making the train to stall in case of an e-stop. (don't know if they did something) - Nemesis Inferno is the only B&M that hit the lift using its natural speed. All other B&M have tires to synchronize the grip and makes it smoother. - Oblivion and Diving Machine G5 are slighly different. The english ride has flat turns at the top and after the brakes, and thus uses a sideway chain lift to pull the train (I think it's the only coaster in the world to feature that). G5 however, has slightly slanted turns, and so doesn't need any mechanisms. - Casey Jr. - Le Petit Train du Cirque is the first coaster using an onboard audio. It's also the first and only Vekoma e-powered. - B&M Inverted coasters are said to be inspired by chairlifts. (Damn I should have asked that at the EAS..! Ropeways are my passion as well.) - Speaking of ropeways; Giovanola, Doppelmayr, Swiss Rides (BMF), Soquet, Compagnie des Alpes (Parc Astérix, Walibi...) and some other companies have a business both in the amusement industry and in the ropeway industry. Edited January 1, 2014 by KingRCT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarienLaker Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 People think that Darien Lake's first coaster was Viper, but that's not their first coaster was a kiddie Zierer oval coaster called Ladybug in 1981. Viper opened a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 - Nemesis Inferno is the only B&M that hit the lift using its natural speed. All other B&M have tires to synchronize the grip and makes it smoother. Doesn't hydra also do this? It doesn't have any drive tires on the bottom of the lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groteslurf Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Bobbejaan Schoepen, the founder of Bobbejaanland, lived till his death a few years ago, together with his wife, who died only a few months ago, in their house IN Bobbejaanland. When they sold the park to Parques Reunidos in 2004, one of the conditions in the contract, was that they could still live in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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