JJLehto 2 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Well, since I'll be in CA, which isn't close to Lagoon but the closest I'll be any time ever in the forseeable future, I may try to stop by. Perhaps take a layover in Salt Lake City. (Nothing flies directly to Tallahassee anyway) Esp since it seems I can get from the Airport to park without a rental car!? I know this is a family park with a collection of mostly moderate rides, but I've heard good things about Wicked, not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) but I do love a Schwarzkopf. CoasterStudios, who's opinions seem to strongly align with mine, found the spinning coaster and....Roller Coaster not bad either. Think its worth a day trip to the park? For a solo traveler esp? Is Cannibal as awesome as it seems? I see that in Sept, when I'd likely be going, its basically weekend hours. Any idea what crowds would be like on a Sept weekend? Link to post Share on other sites
ytterbiumanalyst 0 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 , not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) Come on, you've been around long enough to know that word is only used by people who front that they're so hardcore they can't enjoy themselves. Go and have a good time. Link to post Share on other sites
Canobie Coaster 80 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I don't know where you heard Cannibal was forceless. I loved it last October. The first drop has incredible air. The rest of the ride is no Kumba, but it does have some good hangtime and pulls some Gs. Link to post Share on other sites
JJLehto 2 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 , not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) Come on, you've been around long enough to know that word is only used by people who front that they're so hardcore they can't enjoy themselves. Go and have a good time. True, and prob funny from me who still defends MForce but ya know it just out of the way(though apparently not nearly as a bad as I thought!) Also ya know...needless to say I was 80% convinced I wanted to do it and was looking for the few people to give the confirming nudge ha Though I do know nothing of the park and have some questions. Mostly I am curious what crowds may be expected. It seems like it will have to a Sept weekend, so if anyone has any idea. Is it single rider friendly? I know some rides you cant ride front/back solo which is fine, and for any that require two people guess I'll have to ask someone, which is also fine. I am hoping to get lots of rides on so just curious if crowds are a concern/how to dodge em. Im assuming there's no Fast Lane type deal. If an August weekday would be better, I could try that (flying IN to CA opposed to out) Link to post Share on other sites
JJLehto 2 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I don't know where you heard Cannibal was forceless. I loved it last October. The first drop has incredible air. The rest of the ride is no Kumba, but it does have some good hangtime and pulls some Gs. Coaster Studios. Who's views I usually agree with, even in ways/rides I differ from many. Also, I just haven't heard much about it, or the park, at all so thus why Im seeking input. And yeah that drop has me kind of amazed. I am super curious what 200 foot (very) beyond vertical drop is like Link to post Share on other sites
A.J. 36 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Coaster Studios. Who's views I usually agree with, even in ways/rides I differ from many. Also, I just haven't heard much about it, or the park, at all so thus why Im seeking input. And yeah that drop has me kind of amazed. I am super curious what 200 foot (very) beyond vertical drop is like Never, ever let one person's opinion dictate how you feel about a park, ride, or experience before you get to go there yourself. For all you know your favorite coaster could end up being Puff The Little Fire Dragon. Link to post Share on other sites
JJLehto 2 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Coaster Studios. Who's views I usually agree with, even in ways/rides I differ from many. Also, I just haven't heard much about it, or the park, at all so thus why Im seeking input. And yeah that drop has me kind of amazed. I am super curious what 200 foot (very) beyond vertical drop is like Never, ever let one person's opinion dictate how you feel about a park, ride, or experience before you get to go there yourself. For all you know your favorite coaster could end up being Puff The Little Fire Dragon. Nah I feel ya. Perhaps bad wording, (as Im prone to!) not like that swayed me either way, I was planning on going, just looking for input And nah my #1 was MForce for 14 years no one's opinion can sway me. Link to post Share on other sites
larrygator 7 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Is it single rider friendly? I know some rides you cant ride front/back solo which is fine, and for any that require two people guess I'll have to ask someone, which is also fine. One or two of the coasters required two riders. I can't recall the specifics, I'm sure a local will chime in. Link to post Share on other sites
Canobie Coaster 80 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Jet Star II is the only one not allowing single riders outright. You need to ride that one in groups of 2 or 3. Lagoon doesn't allow single riders in the front or back row of any coaster except Spider (spinner) and Puff (kiddie). I think on the Wild Mouse single riders could only ride in the front or back (forget which). Wicked and Cannibal have awesome single rider lines that'll save you a ton of time. Link to post Share on other sites
thrillseeker4552 37 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Well, since I'll be in CA, which isn't close to Lagoon but the closest I'll be any time ever in the forseeable future, I may try to stop by. Perhaps take a layover in Salt Lake City. (Nothing flies directly to Tallahassee anyway) Esp since it seems I can get from the Airport to park without a rental car!? I know this is a family park with a collection of mostly moderate rides, but I've heard good things about Wicked, not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) but I do love a Schwarzkopf. CoasterStudios, who's opinions seem to strongly align with mine, found the spinning coaster and....Roller Coaster not bad either. Think its worth a day trip to the park? For a solo traveler esp? Is Cannibal as awesome as it seems? I see that in Sept, when I'd likely be going, its basically weekend hours. Any idea what crowds would be like on a Sept weekend? I would expect moderate to heavy crowds on a September weekend. It depends on if Frightmares has started yet since that draws lots of people. The park is definitely doable on crowded days though thanks to the wonderful single rider lines on Cannibal and Wicked as well as overall solid operations for the major rides. Honestly, the worst part about crowded days at Lagoon is navigating through people on the midway since the park has no queue space for the major coasters, flat rides, or food services. On any crowded day, the lines spill into the walkways and can get rather obnoxious to deal with. Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. Link to post Share on other sites
pǝʇɹǝʌuı 0 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. I actually disagree about the top 10 thing. I may be the black sheep here but I REALLY like Cannibal. It's in my personal top 10. Granted, I haven't been around the block nearly as much as a lot of the other people on the site, but I think Cannibal is just a fun coaster. It's super re-ride-able. It's not forceful, that's true, but it has a ton of hangtime and the first drop is absolutely amazing. Take that for what you will. I hope I'm not alone in this, I think this ride deserves more credit than it gets. Link to post Share on other sites
JJLehto 2 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Well, since I'll be in CA, which isn't close to Lagoon but the closest I'll be any time ever in the forseeable future, I may try to stop by. Perhaps take a layover in Salt Lake City. (Nothing flies directly to Tallahassee anyway) Esp since it seems I can get from the Airport to park without a rental car!? I know this is a family park with a collection of mostly moderate rides, but I've heard good things about Wicked, not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) but I do love a Schwarzkopf. CoasterStudios, who's opinions seem to strongly align with mine, found the spinning coaster and....Roller Coaster not bad either. Think its worth a day trip to the park? For a solo traveler esp? Is Cannibal as awesome as it seems? I see that in Sept, when I'd likely be going, its basically weekend hours. Any idea what crowds would be like on a Sept weekend? I would expect moderate to heavy crowds on a September weekend. It depends on if Frightmares has started yet since that draws lots of people. The park is definitely doable on crowded days though thanks to the wonderful single rider lines on Cannibal and Wicked as well as overall solid operations for the major rides. Honestly, the worst part about crowded days at Lagoon is navigating through people on the midway since the park has no queue space for the major coasters, flat rides, or food services. On any crowded day, the lines spill into the walkways and can get rather obnoxious to deal with. Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. Thank you! This is what I was looking for. TPR to the rescue as always. It would likely be early to mid Sept. Waiting on WCB dates. I may just try a weekday, so in August, just to try and avoid the crowds entirely. Link to post Share on other sites
linearinduction 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. I actually disagree about the top 10 thing. I may be the black sheep here but I REALLY like Cannibal. It's in my personal top 10. Granted, I haven't been around the block nearly as much as a lot of the other people on the site, but I think Cannibal is just a fun coaster. It's super re-ride-able. It's not forceful, that's true, but it has a ton of hangtime and the first drop is absolutely amazing. Take that for what you will. I hope I'm not alone in this, I think this ride deserves more credit than it gets. ...4.5 Gs isn't forceful. Got it! Well, since I'll be in CA, which isn't close to Lagoon but the closest I'll be any time ever in the forseeable future, I may try to stop by. Perhaps take a layover in Salt Lake City. (Nothing flies directly to Tallahassee anyway) Esp since it seems I can get from the Airport to park without a rental car!? I know this is a family park with a collection of mostly moderate rides, but I've heard good things about Wicked, not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) but I do love a Schwarzkopf. CoasterStudios, who's opinions seem to strongly align with mine, found the spinning coaster and....Roller Coaster not bad either. Think its worth a day trip to the park? For a solo traveler esp? Is Cannibal as awesome as it seems? I see that in Sept, when I'd likely be going, its basically weekend hours. Any idea what crowds would be like on a Sept weekend? I would expect moderate to heavy crowds on a September weekend. It depends on if Frightmares has started yet since that draws lots of people. The park is definitely doable on crowded days though thanks to the wonderful single rider lines on Cannibal and Wicked as well as overall solid operations for the major rides. Honestly, the worst part about crowded days at Lagoon is navigating through people on the midway since the park has no queue space for the major coasters, flat rides, or food services. On any crowded day, the lines spill into the walkways and can get rather obnoxious to deal with. Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. Thank you! This is what I was looking for. TPR to the rescue as always. It would likely be early to mid Sept. Waiting on WCB dates. I may just try a weekday, so in August, just to try and avoid the crowds entirely. Yeah, August is Hot and Crowded, even on week days. lol I might be able to get a great discount voucher for you...maybe not as good as Doppel Looping, but close. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
pǝʇɹǝʌuı 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 It's not forceful, that's true, ...4.5 Gs isn't forceful. Got it! Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk ok whatever It's forceful, but it doesn't throw you around like Maverick or anything. better? I guess forceful is the wrong word. It's not...intense? Again the wrong word because this ride will scare the living crap out of you if you're afraid of heights or hanging upside down with a lapbar. I think enthusiasts have been trying too hard to judge how good a ride is based on how crazy it moves and how much you'll get thrown around, hence the hype of RMC. Yes, those rides are good, because they're good at what they do. But different rides are good for different reasons. Among my personal top 10 are Beast, Diamondback, TTD, and Eejanaika and they are all COMPLETELY different rides. Cannibal does some weird crap, but instead of its gimmicks being outerbank turns and stengel dives, they're lagoon rolls and gigantic loops. It provides an insane amount of quality hangtime and that's why you'll fall in love with it when you ride. Bottom line: Cannibal is a good ride. Throw out the typical enthusiast's "best coaster ever" and expect something completely new. Link to post Share on other sites
linearinduction 0 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 It's not forceful, that's true, ...4.5 Gs isn't forceful. Got it! Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk ok whatever It's forceful, but it doesn't throw you around like Maverick or anything. better? I guess forceful is the wrong word. It's not...intense? Again the wrong word because this ride will scare the living crap out of you if you're afraid of heights or hanging upside down with a lapbar. I think enthusiasts have been trying too hard to judge how good a ride is based on how crazy it moves and how much you'll get thrown around, hence the hype of RMC. Yes, those rides are good, because they're good at what they do. But different rides are good for different reasons. Among my personal top 10 are Beast, Diamondback, TTD, and Eejanaika and they are all COMPLETELY different rides. Cannibal does some weird crap, but instead of its gimmicks being outerbank turns and stengel dives, they're lagoon rolls and gigantic loops. It provides an insane amount of quality hangtime and that's why you'll fall in love with it when you ride. Bottom line: Cannibal is a good ride. Throw out the typical enthusiast's "best coaster ever" and expect something completely new. I was just joshing you dude! Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
JJLehto 2 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. I actually disagree about the top 10 thing. I may be the black sheep here but I REALLY like Cannibal. It's in my personal top 10. Granted, I haven't been around the block nearly as much as a lot of the other people on the site, but I think Cannibal is just a fun coaster. It's super re-ride-able. It's not forceful, that's true, but it has a ton of hangtime and the first drop is absolutely amazing. Take that for what you will. I hope I'm not alone in this, I think this ride deserves more credit than it gets. ...4.5 Gs isn't forceful. Got it! Well, since I'll be in CA, which isn't close to Lagoon but the closest I'll be any time ever in the forseeable future, I may try to stop by. Perhaps take a layover in Salt Lake City. (Nothing flies directly to Tallahassee anyway) Esp since it seems I can get from the Airport to park without a rental car!? I know this is a family park with a collection of mostly moderate rides, but I've heard good things about Wicked, not as much about Cannibal, (was let down to hear its supposedly forceless???) but I do love a Schwarzkopf. CoasterStudios, who's opinions seem to strongly align with mine, found the spinning coaster and....Roller Coaster not bad either. Think its worth a day trip to the park? For a solo traveler esp? Is Cannibal as awesome as it seems? I see that in Sept, when I'd likely be going, its basically weekend hours. Any idea what crowds would be like on a Sept weekend? I would expect moderate to heavy crowds on a September weekend. It depends on if Frightmares has started yet since that draws lots of people. The park is definitely doable on crowded days though thanks to the wonderful single rider lines on Cannibal and Wicked as well as overall solid operations for the major rides. Honestly, the worst part about crowded days at Lagoon is navigating through people on the midway since the park has no queue space for the major coasters, flat rides, or food services. On any crowded day, the lines spill into the walkways and can get rather obnoxious to deal with. Cannibal is an excellent coaster. I wouldn't say it's "top 10 in the country" or anything of the like, but it does what it's supposed to very well and has some unique elements you really can't find on other coasters. I like it mostly for its originality and weirdness. Thank you! This is what I was looking for. TPR to the rescue as always. It would likely be early to mid Sept. Waiting on WCB dates. I may just try a weekday, so in August, just to try and avoid the crowds entirely. Yeah, August is Hot and Crowded, even on week days. lol I might be able to get a great discount voucher for you...maybe not as good as Doppel Looping, but close. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk For real? Well, I may flip a coin then on aug weekday or sept weekend and risk it, apparently the single rider line is quite helpful. Hey Im excited about Cannibal. Honestly the idea of a very beyond vertical 200+ foot drop alone. And I cant pass up the chance to get to certain parks I will realistically prob never get to again. Like I'd kick myself. Oh and hot I always am basically from June to Sept so no way around that Link to post Share on other sites
Tanks4me05 0 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I'm currently at the park, and cranes are now on site for Primordial. One of those cranes is massive. Logic would state that for any construction project, you should use the smallest possible crane to do the job due to their expense to rent. The big crane is a Kobelco CK2500 II (the model name is plastered on the crane itself.) The thing has a max height of 300 feet according to Kobelco' s catalog, while the next largest model is 250 feet tall. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that this new ride is gonna be a 250 - 300 foot tall behemoth. Link to post Share on other sites
linearinduction 0 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I'm currently at the park, and cranes are now on site for Primordial. One of those cranes is massive. Logic would state that for any construction project, you should use the smallest possible crane to do the job due to their expense to rent. The big crane is a Kobelco CK2500 II (the model name is plastered on the crane itself.) The thing has a max height of 300 feet according to Kobelco' s catalog, while the next largest model is 250 feet tall. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that this new ride is gonna be a 250 - 300 foot tall behemoth.Lagoon has not filed a height variance with Farmington City, which means they can build the mountain for Primordial up to a height of 217 Feet. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Tanks4me05 0 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 ^In that case, I stand corrected. Link to post Share on other sites
linearinduction 0 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 ^In that case, I stand corrected.The same crane was used to stack Cannibal's Tower, btw. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Canobie Coaster 80 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 There are a lot of big coasters in 2020 but this is one of the most fascinating simply because we have no clue what it'll be. Link to post Share on other sites
pǝʇɹǝʌuı 0 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 ^Agreed. This is my current home park technically, and I'd love to see them get another big roller coaster. Previous speculation pointed to a family dark coaster, but I'm ready to be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites
RCF 0 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I would expect a family thrill ride/coaster. Lagoon has a huge family demographic and their last two biggest rides catered to the thrill seekers. However, I feel we will see a lot of money go into theming for this ride. After the success of the Terroride revamp, I expect some great theming results for this ride that everyone will love, kids and adults alike. Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
linearinduction 0 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 There are a lot of big coasters in 2020 but this is one of the most fascinating simply because we have no clue what it'll be.Except, as the park previously announced, Primordial won't open in 2020, and 2021 is possible, but 2022 is probable. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
KBrylczyk 67 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Except, as the park previously announced, Primordial won't open in 2020, and 2021 is possible, but 2022 is probable. I wish Lagoon would take a lesson from Hansa Park and build the ride to be operational ASAP, work on the themeing after the fact. It took Karnan, what, three years to be fully themed? But it was operational and still became my #1 (effortlessly, I might add) back in 2016. Link to post Share on other sites
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