Three Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 http://rcdb.com/id1169.htm I'm gonna hazard a guess that nobody here has ridden this thing. If I am wrong, that would be hella awesome. Anyway, this thing has me hella curious. It looks like B&M track and B&M elements with an Intamin train. The hell? Anybody know anything more about this beast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 From what I have heard about this ride, its smooth as butter and its so powerful that it makes the B:TR clones seem like kiddie rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 The only connection between this(Anaconda) and a normal B&M Inverter that I could find, was the designer, under neath the Make and Model of the coaster, for example I went to the Dueling Dragons Page and noticed the designer was Ingenieur Büro Stengel GmbH, which is exactly the same designer which is on the Giovanola (Anaconda) Page. Hope that helps. -Matyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Three, Worm has ridden it. He lives in South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 That's me alright! This thing's g's is eally impressive! at the bottom of the loops the g's pushes you straight into the seat! The helix around the fake rock is abslolutley amazing! I'll try and make a POV and ofride video footage of it in June/July. I haven't got a camera but i'm sure i can burrow one from family/friends. I'll also try to get a POV of Tower of Terror (see avatar) but its currently SBNO and hopefully it'l be open when i go. And btw, what RCDB soen't show is that the trains also have wheel caps just like beemers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 The train looks like a B&M invert, minus the outside seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMontu Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I've heard that Giovanola also did some work on Eurostar (a portable coaster travelling Europe) The track and trains are similar to B&M, but the supports are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdn Mndbndr Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Uhm, picture 5 & 7 show the wheel caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Posted May 6, 2006 Author Share Posted May 6, 2006 That's me alright! This thing's g's is eally impressive! at the bottom of the loops the g's pushes you straight into the seat! The helix around the fake rock is abslolutley amazing! I'll try and make a POV and ofride video footage of it in June/July. I haven't got a camera but i'm sure i can burrow one from family/friends. I'll also try to get a POV of Tower of Terror (see avatar) but its currently SBNO and hopefully it'l be open when i go. And btw, what RCDB soen't show is that the trains also have wheel caps just like beemers. Awesome awesome. That helix looks pretty freaking sweet (and impressive themeing). Suddenly I'm very disappointed that Giovanola only churned out a few coasters on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollermonkey Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Worm, Your parks are open year-round? That's cool! How cold is the winter there? I've always liked the color scheme. It's so BRIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I really love the look of that helix. Edit:I was just looking at the other coasters in the park, and that Tower of Terror looks insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumguy Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Worm, you know how jealous I am of you? South Africa looks awesome and Anaconda looks like one great invert. Too bad there's only two amusement parks in South Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electerik Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 The only connection between this(Anaconda) and a normal B&M Inverter that I could find, was the designer, under neath the Make and Model of the coaster, for example I went to the Dueling Dragons Page and noticed the designer was Ingenieur Büro Stengel GmbH, which is exactly the same designer which is on the Giovanola (Anaconda) Page. Hope that helps. -Matyn For what it's worth, Ing.-Büro Stengel GmbH is Werner Stengel's engineering company, and has been involved with the design of what seems like almost every steel coaster built for the last 20 years, regardless of actual manufacturer. Just some of the companies they do engineering work for: Intamin B&M Premier Gerstlauer Zamperla Maurer Soehne Giovanola Zierer So seeing their name associated with a coaster doesn't really mean a whole lot in terms of indicating a connection between rides. Also, both B&M and Giovanola started out working for Intamin (and I'm pretty sure that Giovanola still does), so there are bound to be similarities between their rides. I'm just saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Posted May 6, 2006 Author Share Posted May 6, 2006 The whole park looks pretty cool. Not that I'll ever make it over there, but yeah. Okay, could anybody tell me Giovanola's story? RCDB lists a bunch of coasters with them attached to, but most of them somebody else designed. So how many did they actually do all the work on? Just Titan, Goliath, and Anaconda here? And why'd they stop? They've certainly shown some potential with their work. Why the dropout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 ^ I've alwaysd wondered why they had just dissapeard. I mean its rare that a company who makes 3 (Anaconda,Titan/Goliath and Eurostar) awseome coasters and just, DISSAPEAR! btw Three, about the weather, its Africa so mostly its warm although winters (June/July/August) are very rainy and windy, but parks still stay open. In the summer it hits around 40 degrees celsius on a normal day. The coldest i've experienced in SA is around 3 celsius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I badly want to go to that park. It seems like they've purposefully gone out of their way to install rides that are really special. Whether that's intentional at all I've no idea, but I don't see why a park without much local competition on its own level would invest in something so out of the ordinary? The helix in my view is what makes this ride. I'm not so much interested in the inversions on coasters, but the way that they are linked. And this one seems to do it well The trains look weird though. Too small for the track. Probably because I'm so used to BaM phatboy trains on that sort of track though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Layout looks intense, I just hate the pink color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Sabo Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Mr. Stengel did MANY designs throughout the years. Here is the link to the company website: http://www.rcstengel.com/ Also, he has over 465 coasters designed worldwide including Aplengiest, and Apollo's Chariot for BGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobitizer Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 well Giovanola is or used to be (not sure) was contracted to build thr supports and track of B&M coasters. when B&M couldnt build in house they had Giovanola build it. But as far as I know that was prior to when B&M had a plant state side. Anyone know if they still work together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redunzelizer Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Giovanola aka GTec has been out of the coaster business for quite some time. In the meanwhile the company is closed or is at least "in liquidation". See also: http://www.moneyhouse.ch/shab/1998_105/Giovanola.htm You may also note that CH 1870 Monthey is, where the headquarters of B&M are, hehe... See: http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/contact/contact_en.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 The theming of that ride is really cool too, I like it how it goes over the cool looking rapids ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 That rapids ride is probaly the best around! I was on it when a train came by over the loop when we were under it. Too bad i wasn't a coaster geek then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machtin Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Well, now we actually know where Phantasialand got its inspiration from for Black Mamba. It's not Nemesis, but Anaconda! In fact, the similarities are striking. They have almost the same sequence of inversions and the genuinly African snake goes round some rocks including some near misses, just like its German counterpart. Seriously, this should be without a doubt the best themed coaster on the southern hemisphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Sabo Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Unless I did not search hard enough, but does someone have a video posted of that ride (Anaconda)? It does have nice theming. I'm curious of Nemesis was built before this ride or perhaps theme-concepts came from this ride and Nemesis just took it an extra step. I specifically enjoy the photo of the train transversing around that rock-formation...coolio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Nemesis opened in 1994, Anaconda opened in 1999. www.rcdb.com is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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