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So on Facebook in the Dollywood comments, a Dollywood ride op said LR was pulling 90 and they couldn't figure out why? As much as I doubt that a bit of me thinks...could this thing do 90 and that would be kick A$$. But still.

 

Pffft, that rumor again!? That' so 2016.

 

LSMs require such ridiculous precision and control that there is quite literally no way that would be able to happen. Also, the company that designed and programmed the ride control system (Irvine Ondrey Engineering) confirmed this rumor to be false when it was first circulating in June of 2016.

 

Now I'm not saying that the ride is going 90 and don't believe so, but last year's rumors had more to do with the ride reaching 90+ MPH sometime during the course of the ride.. While the LSM require precision, they are definitely not launching the train at 90.. With that being said, a lot of other factors could cause the train to reach 90 during the course of the ride, such as train weight, rider weight, type of wheels (also why Dollywood changes wheels during the winter) and so on.. With them testing the ride with various different weights, that could suggest that on some rides the train was going to fast.. 90, probably not but over speed yes.. Also, if their is a failsafe to shut the ride down if it gets to those speeds, that could also suggest this might be happening. The control system company just said the launch wasn't causing those speeds and couldn't.

 

Again though, you can't really trust ride ops with anything lol

 

Also, with Dollywoods confidential agreements, that's up to the employees to actually keep those.. we have seen employees post here then quickly delete, meaning they probably had a slip in their mind and did it on accident.. Also, it's hard to prove someone "really" said something on the internet from an HR standpoint. My HR team at work hears "I was hacked" at least once a year. Even though TN is a "At Will" state when it comes to jobs, as soon as the HR team hears that, it gets very complicated and normally the complaint against whoever ends up having to be dropped.

 

With that being said, sensors could also be reading the wrong speeds, which is very possible.. so while I personally don't feel the train is doing 90, it is a possibility that this might be the issue, just like all the other possible issues we have heard..

 

Rumors are rumors though and you can't trust employees with anything (this is true with any job).. just yesterday the clerk at Best Buy told me all video games where going up to $89.99 this Christmas and that Nintendo had discontinued the Switch (which is why it's out of stock) when I went in to buy Arms.. I know that's not true but hey an employee said so lol

 

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Even if the ride's speed varied a little here and there, there's no way it could reach 90 mph. That's almost 20 mph over the ride's designated top speed of 73. The whole over-speed theory is just ridiculous and needs to be buried immediately. IOE (the suppliers of the PLC system) said it themselves last season.

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Blame it on the park, both reports came from supposedly ride ops..

 

With that being said, last season I said someone should take a GPS on the ride and see the readings when this rumor came about, I actually did that and I don't believe I ever posted the results (maybe I did, I can't remember)

 

Disclaimer: Consumer GPS should never be considered a scientific way to measure speeds.. I know that. I used 3 devices to test, but still not scientific! All devices other than the watch where in zipped cargo pockets for safety!

 

1.) Outdoor GPS (Highend Consumer model that cost about $400)

 

2.) Nexus 6P with a speed tracking app (I'd post the screenshot of the app, but unfortunately that phone has shattered and expanded due to a bad battery)(in my car this app always reported 2 - 3 mph higher than my cars speedometer)

 

3.) And a GPS enabled watch with on board GPS and speed app (Used as a control device that had direct access to the sky while the other two devices where secured in sealed cargo pockets which could possibly interfere with readings)

 

All devices had max speed within 3MPH of each other

 

Over 10 test showed max speed of around 73 - 76 MPH, so give or take the margin of error, that's 72 - 73 HOWEVER two test did show a Max speed of nearly 80.. Never over 80 as far as I can remember though, not an official test so I wrote those off as "Flukes".. take the 3mph margin of error and the rides max speed was well under 80.

 

Again, not an official test but interesting readings nonetheless.. Keep in mind, this was after the first closure and took place during late summer/early fall.. the rumor was well before that time so any issues could very well have been fixed at that time.

 

I in no way every think the coaster can reach 90! Lol.. if anything, given my phone always reported 3 MPH faster than my cars speedometer, the ride might actually be slow at times clocking only 71 - 72

 

Also keep in mind, the vertical movements could also interfere with GPS speed, so this is definitely not a speed gun test my any means

 

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Even if the ride's speed varied a little here and there, there's no way it could reach 90 mph. That's almost 20 mph over the ride's designated top speed of 73. The whole over-speed theory is just ridiculous and needs to be buried immediately. IOE (the suppliers of the PLC system) said it themselves last season.

 

+1

 

All coasters are designed to operate within a certain margin, it's almost impossible to stay at or under the specified speed every time based on train weight (which is different every time).

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Even if the ride's speed varied a little here and there, there's no way it could reach 90 mph. That's almost 20 mph over the ride's designated top speed of 73. The whole over-speed theory is just ridiculous and needs to be buried immediately. IOE (the suppliers of the PLC system) said it themselves last season.

 

+1

 

All coasters are designed to operate within a certain margin, it's almost impossible to stay at or under the specified speed every time based on train weight (which is different every time).

This.

 

That rumor should've never started in the first place last year.

 

Anyways, I'm just gonna post this here just to show how stupid people are these days. This was found in the comments of the WBIR post on facebook from last night:

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Even if the ride's speed varied a little here and there, there's no way it could reach 90 mph. That's almost 20 mph over the ride's designated top speed of 73. The whole over-speed theory is just ridiculous and needs to be buried immediately. IOE (the suppliers of the PLC system) said it themselves last season.

 

+1

 

All coasters are designed to operate within a certain margin, it's almost impossible to stay at or under the specified speed every time based on train weight (which is different every time).

This.

 

That rumor should've never started in the first place last year.

 

Anyways, I'm just gonna post this here just to show how stupid people are these days. This was found in the comments of the WBIR post on facebook from last night:

 

This is hilarious. It's even better that he's acting arrogant about his ignorance.

 

Can I please buy some proper grammar?

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I heard the reason for the closing was the coaster was run on unicorn farts and someone left the valve open on the container the farts were stored in and they had to wait on a new shipment from never never land. I know this because I'm a contractor that specializes in unicorn fart structures.

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I heard the reason for the closing was the coaster was run on unicorn farts and someone left the valve open on the container the farts were stored in and they had to wait on a new shipment from never never land. I know this because I'm a contractor that specializes in unicorn fart structures.

 

 

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^ But... not from this?

 

 

Dollywood should have used Unicorn Barf, but decided to go with a new company for the launch that used a prototype Unicorn Farts.

 

There has been speculation that the Unicorn Fart will be replaced by a traditional Horse Fart instead, seeing that the Unicorn Fart is not performing to the desired specifications.

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Did anyone go yesterday or today? A new rumor is going around that the launch has been slowed down a lot.

 

Heard this on that coaster studio guys instagram.

 

Surely they wouldn't give up their record of the fastest wood coaster, slowing down the launch would surely make the rest of the ride slower.

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Alright, I watched a POV from when it opened and I could definitely see it was way faster at the top of the launch then it was today. The launch still was full speed today but near the top trims kicked in and slowed it down. I don't think this change is temporary.

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Alright, I watched a POV from when it opened and I could definitely see it was way faster at the top of the launch then it was today. The launch still was full speed today but near the top trims kicked in and slowed it down. I don't think this change is temporary.

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I seen the post from the account. Claims the launch was slowed down, and the train slows down at the top and barely makes it over the top. Comments under were saying they were at the park and the the pre drop and drop's air were pretty much gone now. I hope this isn't true at all because that's what kicks your entire ride off is being ejected out at the start.

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If the speed is going to stay this way and isn't a temporary solution like I305's trims, then they might as well have not built this ride. Nobody wants a forceless, airtimeless version of a coaster this size.

 

Did anyone go yesterday or today? A new rumor is going around that the launch has been slowed down a lot.

 

That sounds like a BS rumor you'd see on a 15 year-olds roller coaster instagram.

 

Except it's not. There is testimony from many many people. I think your elitism is going a bit far don't you think?

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^ Do you ever make a good post? You haven't even ridden it (possibly at all, definitely not since it reopened) so this...

 

then they might as well have not built this ride. Nobody wants a forceless, airtimeless version of a coaster this size.

 

... is ridiculous when you haven't even experienced it.

 

I'm sure this ride is still awesome. Honestly I was never overly impressed with the first drop anyway. It's fun, but not in the same league as a ride like El Toro. I'm sure the second half of the ride is still balls out insane, and that's the best part anyway. This reminds me of when they slowed down El Toro's lift and everone lost their collective sh*t. In my experience it didn't change the ride experience at all. This might be a slightly more noticeable change (emphasis on might) but I'm sure this is easily still the best coaster at Dollywood (and I love every single coaster at Dollywood).

 

PS: Oh, and stop acting like this is coming from "multiple sources", chickenbowl is totally right... you posted it here because Coaster Studios posted it. I won't hate on Coaster Studios but it's run by one (I think) college kid who hasn't even personally ridden the new version and is operating on hearsay.

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So if the launch has truly been slowed down at the top, that means there was a possibility that the ride was going way above speed..

 

With that being said, I think the trim break rumor also surfaced some last year and the programming company said there weren't any trims at the top (or said those where just for emergencies or something if there are some) and the slow down you felt was just normal because the launch wasn't installed all the way to the top of the lift..

 

I'll have to look up the post later when I have time, I just remember they spoke of it

 

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^ Do you ever make a good post? You haven't even ridden it (possibly at all, definitely not since it reopened) so this...

 

then they might as well have not built this ride. Nobody wants a forceless, airtimeless version of a coaster this size.

 

... is ridiculous when you haven't even experienced it.

 

I'm sure this ride is still awesome. Honestly I was never overly impressed with the first drop anyway. It's fun, but not in the same league as a ride like El Toro. I'm sure the second half of the ride is still balls out insane, and that's the best part anyway. This reminds me of when they slowed down El Toro's lift and everone lost their collective sh*t. In my experience it didn't change the ride experience at all. This might be a slightly more noticeable change (emphasis on might) but I'm sure this is easily still the best coaster at Dollywood (and I love every single coaster at Dollywood).

 

PS: Oh, and stop acting like this is coming from "multiple sources", chickenbowl is totally right... you posted it here because Coaster Studios posted it. I won't hate on Coaster Studios but it's run by one (I think) college kid who hasn't even personally ridden the new version and is operating on hearsay.

 

So basically you're going to accept mediocrity? Sorry but I don't. I think it's a terrible idea to slow the ride down.

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