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P. 791: Big Bear Mountain family coaster announced for 2023!

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Pictures are popping up everywhere on Instagram from the ACE event. I have a question though, I thought these trains were suppose to be single row, articulating trains. You know, a "new design"? From what I can see they're the same 2x2 trains as Twisted Colussus or Outlaw Run. I'm not complaining at all because they're beautiful, just curious.

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. . . I thought these trains were suppose to be single row, articulating trains. You know, a "new design"?

 

Maybe if this were the new RMC T-Rex, or Raptor track... But it's not, so not sure where you got the idea it was going to be a single row, articulating train. It's been shown to be the 2X2 trains this entire time.

 

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Yep, until us pesky enthusiasts ruined it all! Shame!

 

I mean, what would the ride operators have said when the trains came back into the station??

 

"Welcome back riders!!! How was your ride?!?!" (Insert riders screaming with pleasure, and enjoyment here) ... (Then back to the ride operator) "Fantastic!!! When the train comes to a complete stop, go ahead and lift up on that red safety bar, unbuckle your black safety belt, and exit to your right!! I hope you enjoyed riding our Rod. We know the Shot is amazing! Please come back and ride our Rod again soon, and enjoy the rest of your day here at Dollywood!"

 

Yeah. . . Now I see the problem.

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I just laughed really hard as I imagined Dollywood ride Ops saying that. A little kid saying "Mommy I wanna ride the rod again". Yea, very very awkward and bad on their part.

I was checking out some of the pics from the event and asked about the construction. One guy said Pete told the group they are focusing right now on hurrying to get the Non-Inverting half loop finished because that's the area where the electrical housing will go. After that they can track and finish the remaining parts which aren't that much. I also asked about the quad down and seen a picture. He said it basically looks like a pile of sticks sticking out of the ground, and when I seen the pic I seen why. Looking at it from the ground it is so hard to see because it's like the supports run so low to the group all the way down the hill.

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I don't understand . . . Someone can still call it rod right now (being only the first word changed). Why would an op say that? Be it lightning or shot as the first part of the name? No one says thanks for riding head, or fire, or wild. Was that an attempt at a bad joke?

 

Anyway . . . Here is a kinda head on shot to show how tight the apex of the first crest is. Notice the lack of supports at the bottom.

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A lot will go on in the valley.

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Still can't believe someone said the track was completed!

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. . . I thought these trains were suppose to be single row, articulating trains. You know, a "new design"?

 

Maybe if this were the new RMC T-Rex, or Raptor track... But it's not, so not sure where you got the idea it was going to be a single row, articulating train. It's been shown to be the 2X2 trains this entire time.

 

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But it was announced it was supposed to be 2x1.

 

From the announcement post Robb posted:

[...]Located in Dollywood’s Jukebox Junction, Lightning Rod rockets riders around its massive wooden structure on an adrenaline-charged lap through the trees in the hills and valleys surrounding Dollywood. During the ride, guests experience nearly 20 seconds of airtime. The coaster train is comprised of 12 cars, carrying two passengers each, for a total of 24 people per train. [...]
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But it was announced it was supposed to be 2x1.

 

From the announcement post Robb posted:

[...]Located in Dollywood’s Jukebox Junction, Lightning Rod rockets riders around its massive wooden structure on an adrenaline-charged lap through the trees in the hills and valleys surrounding Dollywood. During the ride, guests experience nearly 20 seconds of airtime. The coaster train is comprised of 12 cars, carrying two passengers each, for a total of 24 people per train. [...]

Cars, rows, carriages...it's all the same in a press release. No fault of the park, no fault of the author, it's just how it happens sometimes. It could have been a miscommunication between departments, it's not like they're intentionally misleading their guests. This is a pretty trivial thing to be all riled up about.

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From the announcement post Robb posted:
[...]Located in Dollywood’s Jukebox Junction, Lightning Rod rockets riders around its massive wooden structure on an adrenaline-charged lap through the trees in the hills and valleys surrounding Dollywood. During the ride, guests experience nearly 20 seconds of airtime. The coaster train is comprised of 12 cars, carrying two passengers each, for a total of 24 people per train. [...]

Who cares?

 

Just go ride and have fun.

 

--Robb "This is why I can't stand most die-hard roller coaster enthusiasts." Alvey

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Has the question as to why there is no structure on the bottom of the "pre-drop" been answered? To me that is much more interested than arguing over train announcements when we have a picture of the actual train!

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Has the question as to why there is no structure on the bottom of the "pre-drop" been answered? To me that is much more interested than arguing over train announcements when we have a picture of the actual train!

Yeah I'm with you on that. And it was several pages back I believe, in fact I was the one asking about it. It's supposedly serving as a passageway during construction but will be supported once the track is complete. It looks really strange as it is with no supports, but then you see Goliath's zero-g stall thingy and it's not surprising that it's possible.

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Pics of Lightning Rod's construction site. From station up to top of lift hill

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Station behind return track

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Lift hill

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Rear of station where train exits to lift hill

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Lift hill from the top of the mountain

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The drop after the lift hill goes to the bottom of the ravine then back up and over the top of the next hill.

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The long walk back down the hill

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Has the question as to why there is no structure on the bottom of the "pre-drop" been answered? To me that is much more interested than arguing over train announcements when we have a picture of the actual train!

Yeah I'm with you on that. And it was several pages back I believe, in fact I was the one asking about it. It's supposedly serving as a passageway during construction but will be supported once the track is complete. It looks really strange as it is with no supports, but then you see Goliath's zero-g stall thingy and it's not surprising that it's possible.

 

That makes sense. The slight engineer in me is thinking how that can be okay. The main difference is Goliath's stall is like you said, 0g. Not much force on the track/structure there. This this a positive g section so I definitely expect it to be supported. Thanks for the answer!

 

Can't wait to see this thing fly soon, it is amazing how fast some portions of RMC rides go up.

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Has the question as to why there is no structure on the bottom of the "pre-drop" been answered? To me that is much more interested than arguing over train announcements when we have a picture of the actual train!

Yeah I'm with you on that. And it was several pages back I believe, in fact I was the one asking about it. It's supposedly serving as a passageway during construction but will be supported once the track is complete. It looks really strange as it is with no supports, but then you see Goliath's zero-g stall thingy and it's not surprising that it's possible.

 

That makes sense. The slight engineer in me is thinking how that can be okay. The main difference is Goliath's stall is like you said, 0g. Not much force on the track/structure there. This this a positive g section so I definitely expect it to be supported. Thanks for the answer!

 

Can't wait to see this thing fly soon, it is amazing how fast some portions of RMC rides go up.

That is what was explained. It seems like construction is about to kick into high gear. Im guessing once they finish the roof and installing the LSM's, it wont be much need to have equipment up there then it will be finish. although, I don't remember seeing footers up there.

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We're considering taking a Dollywood-Carowinds trip this May. If we were to go, we'd be at Dollywood on the 22nd and 23rd (half-day on Sunday, full day on Monday). How busy would the park be on those days? Any others tips/advice for visiting the park?

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I am loving the looks of this ride more and more with each update. June can't get here soon enough.

 

The wife and I are looking for some other things to do outside of Dollywood. We have done many things in the area already. I was hoping to get some of your thoughts on things we were looking at.

How is parrot Mountain? is it worth a trip to?

Which of the alpine coasters is the best and are they worth the $15 per rider price tag?

Is the Wax Museum any fun?

We have done Dixie Stampede in the past, we were wondering how the Hatfields and Mccoys dinner show compared.

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I am loving the looks of this ride more and more with each update. June can't get here soon enough.

 

The wife and I are looking for some other things to do outside of Dollywood. We have done many things in the area already. I was hoping to get some of your thoughts on things we were looking at.

How is parrot Mountain? is it worth a trip to?

Which of the alpine coasters is the best and are they worth the $15 per rider price tag?

Is the Wax Museum any fun?

We have done Dixie Stampede in the past, we were wondering how the Hatfields and Mccoys dinner show compared.

 

I enjoyed Parrot Mountain. It's basically a Bird Zoo and I wasn't sure what to expect going in, but its nicely done and a decent size. I think it took a couple of hours to go through the entire thing. Lot's of parrots, maccaws...a wide variety of birds to see.

 

I would say yes the mountain coasters are worth it. I've only done the Goats on the Roof one, which some have said is the better one of the bunch, but three are from the same manufacturer, so they're similar in nature. The one at Ober is from another manufacturer - I have not heard much about it. At Goats, you could re-ride for $5 more, so you can get two rides for $20...not sure if the others offer that as well.

 

Another dinner theater option is the Lumberjack show near the Island in Pigeon Forge...which Dolly just purchased at the end of last season, so that's another option.

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