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P. 771: Onsite employee housing under construction at Dollywood

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Lightning Rod looks great in the snow!

 

Wow that is downright beautiful. I was chatting to my cousin yesterday and he mentioned that it snowed and they canceled his work! Apparently, he's going to be moving into a house right by the Dollywood entrance so I'm hoping to stay there!

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What looks like the better ride, this or Wildfire? True Lightning Rod wins by default because it's in the US and most of us will get to ride it at some point. But I'm curious, all things being equal, what people think. This ride has the launch and the amazing finale, but Wildfire is longer and has a wider variety of elements.

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A few questions:

1) Where should I stay? Where should I stay if I'm on a budget?

 

When I visited in 2012 we stayed here -

 

http://www.timberslodgepigeonforge.com/

 

We had an EXCELLENT time! The price was incredible and the staff was wonderful. They screwed up our reservation and gave away one of our standard rooms before we arrived by accident, so rather than giving us a song and dance they immediately upgraded us to their largest suite completely free. It's also situated right next to a small river that's nice to listen to and across the street from one of the many go-kart places.

 

2) Is there a FastPass system? Is it worth it?

 

No idea on this. We visited in November on a Saturday for the first day of Christmas In The Smokies and had no problem with lines, if that's any consolation. The park was quite busy but the crowds were very well spread out. Our longest wait was probably 15 minutes for Wild Eagle.

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2) Is there a FastPass system? Is it worth it?

3) How should I do these two days?

Wednesday / Thursday in June. Schools in the area will already be out by the time you go, but it is mid-week, so I would guess that it would be at the very least a reasonable visit, especially considering that you're there two days. You can afford to relax! I wouldn't worry about a battle plan, honestly.

 

If you are really, really, really, really concerned about crowds, Dollywood's TimeSaver Pass, which is a Lo-Q system, is $25 per person. Though, I'd wait until you get there to determine if you need it. Put however many you're thinking of getting in your trip budget, and if you don't buy them, it's money that you can spend later!

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What looks like the better ride, this or Wildfire? True Lightning Rod wins by default because it's in the US and most of us will get to ride it at some point. But I'm curious, all things being equal, what people think. This ride has the launch and the amazing finale, but Wildfire is longer and has a wider variety of elements.

 

 

Are you sure that you don't mean to compare LR to Outlaw Run being that the two are more similar coasters (RMC)?

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What looks like the better ride, this or Wildfire? True Lightning Rod wins by default because it's in the US and most of us will get to ride it at some point. But I'm curious, all things being equal, what people think. This ride has the launch and the amazing finale, but Wildfire is longer and has a wider variety of elements.

 

 

Are you sure that you don't mean to compare LR to Outlaw Run being that the two are more similar coasters (RMC)?

 

Ummm, Wildfire at Kolmarden is also RMC. I mean, all three of them are pretty similar, IMO, but they each have a unique flavor.

 

And to put my opinion out there, Outlaw Run is my #1 wood right now (Goliath #5). I plan on riding LR this year, and if it has similar pacing to OR, it will definitely become my #1. I think Wildfire looks insane as well, but as of right now (having not ridden either and having no real POVs), I think that Lightning Rod looks like the best, but that's up for discussion for sure.

 

1. Lightning Rod

2. Wildfire

3. Outlaw Run

4. Goliath

 

I honestly believe that Lightning Rod and Wildfire could be the best 2 wood coasters in the world! Add Outlaw Run, El Toro, and T-Express, and you have the craziest 5 wood coasters ever. In my personal opinion of course.

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I honestly think LR is my least favorite new RMC. it has to do with the hot rod theme. Whilst it was a great idea, I don't see how a ride through the wooded mountains fit the theme. I wish they would had designed more theming aspects.

 

Another factor is the launch and drop, which could have been so much better IMO. Imagine an uninterrupted transition from a launch to an amazing drop. The acceleration effect would be such a rush!

 

Hate me if you want, but it won't change that I think LR had more potential than was granted.

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I honestly think LR is my least favorite new RMC. it has to do with the hot rod theme. Whilst it was a great idea, I don't see how a ride through the wooded mountains fit the theme.

 

I think it is suppose to be something along the lines of simulating hot rods racing around the random back streets in the wooded mountains, which when you think about it, really isn't that insane. I can see how the theme fits.

 

Another factor is the launch and drop, which could have been so much better IMO. Imagine an uninterrupted transition from a launch to an amazing drop. The acceleration effect would be such a rush!

 

Sure, this coaster could have had a 120mph launch straight into a crazy ejector filled drop... But keep in mind they needed to keep the coaster mostly family friendly.

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I honestly think LR is my least favorite new RMC. it has to do with the hot rod theme. Whilst it was a great idea, I don't see how a ride through the wooded mountains fit the theme. I wish they would had designed more theming aspects.

 

Another factor is the launch and drop, which could have been so much better IMO. Imagine an uninterrupted transition from a launch to an amazing drop. The acceleration effect would be such a rush!

 

Hate me if you want, but it won't change that I think LR had more potential than was granted.

 

Even if you dislike the theme, LR will have far better theming than 3/4 of the RMC's in existence, so I don't see why that should sway your opinion so sharply in the negative direction.

 

As far as the launch/drop transition goes, I think they added the smaller drop for two reasons...first, it takes some intensity off the experience so it won't overly jarring to the average guest. However, enthusiasts still get a peppy launch, 2 moments of ejector airtime, and a huge/steep drop. Secondly, this coaster navigates a very unique terrain closely, so it's possible the final product was the only realistic way they could incorperate the launched lift and big drop.

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I honestly think LR is my least favorite new RMC. it has to do with the hot rod theme. Whilst it was a great idea, I don't see how a ride through the wooded mountains fit the theme. I wish they would had designed more theming aspects.

 

Another factor is the launch and drop, which could have been so much better IMO. Imagine an uninterrupted transition from a launch to an amazing drop. The acceleration effect would be such a rush!

 

Hate me if you want, but it won't change that I think LR had more potential than was granted.

 

I think the theme fits pretty well, and I think the launch and drop(s) will be more intense than you anticipate. However, why would anyone hate you over opinions about roller coasters? That would just be stupid. I love roller coasters, they are one of my great passions, but there are more important things in life. Keep the opinions coming!

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I honestly think LR is my least favorite new RMC. it has to do with the hot rod theme. Whilst it was a great idea, I don't see how a ride through the wooded mountains fit the theme. I wish they would had designed more theming aspects.

 

Another factor is the launch and drop, which could have been so much better IMO. Imagine an uninterrupted transition from a launch to an amazing drop. The acceleration effect would be such a rush!

 

Hate me if you want, but it won't change that I think LR had more potential than was granted.

Wow . . . Tell me about that ride you had on it to bring you to the conclusion that it had more potential than was granted? Im not trying to be "that guy" but how you can you speak on potential of a coaster that no one has even ridden?

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I honestly think LR is my least favorite new RMC. it has to do with the hot rod theme. Whilst it was a great idea, I don't see how a ride through the wooded mountains fit the theme. I wish they would had designed more theming aspects.

 

Another factor is the launch and drop, which could have been so much better IMO. Imagine an uninterrupted transition from a launch to an amazing drop. The acceleration effect would be such a rush!

 

Hate me if you want, but it won't change that I think LR had more potential than was granted.

Wow . . . Tell me about that ride you had on it to bring you to the conclusion that it had more potential than was granted? Im not trying to be "that guy" but how you can you speak on potential of a coaster that no one has even ridden?

Well technically it had the potential to be a 600 foot tall AquaTrax, so he's kinda right.

I guess.

 

obligatory sarcasm disclaimer for those who can't tell

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What looks like the better ride, this or Wildfire? True Lightning Rod wins by default because it's in the US and most of us will get to ride it at some point. But I'm curious, all things being equal, what people think. This ride has the launch and the amazing finale, but Wildfire is longer and has a wider variety of elements.

 

 

Are you sure that you don't mean to compare LR to Outlaw Run being that the two are more similar coasters (RMC)?

 

I'm talking about the Wildfire being built at Kolmarden. Both are the first RMCs we're seeing of this scale, both are terrain coasters speeding through wooded hillsides. They're actually really similar in a lot of ways which is why I think it's interesting to compare raw layouts.

 

Both look amazing of course, but personally I think Wildfire pretty clearly has the edge. It just has more to it. That's assuming it keeps its speed all the way to the end without petering out through the final S turn. Although the quadruple down potentially will be better than any single moment on Wildfire. Too bad they're not being built closer together so more people can compare.

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some speculation here but...

 

I rode all of the RMCs in the US in 2015 but as far as the wood-on-wood ones go, I wasn't a big fan of Outlaw run, it has some great elements but maybe in my old age I just have a hard time with intensity like that. There was a pothole (shocking, i know) on the first half that really messed me up. And the barrel rolls at the end did nothing for me so the ending was kinda puttered-out for my tastes.

 

so for that reason I'm looking forward to Lightning Rod because I think (hope?) it will be SLIGHTLY more family-friendly and less intense which works for me, sure the elements will be crazy and all but I dont think it will have the sheer explosiveness of Outlaw. Also happy that it doesn't have inversions, they're fun (really love the stalls, especially on Goliath) but nice to see something a little more classic although there's really nothing about any of the elements on the ride that's "classic". But I think it looks like a lot of fun which is more like what I'm looking for these days.

 

Wildfire looks like a really nice hybrid of all the RMCs to date, beautiful terrain and crazy twists and inversions and great hills and airtime. I think it's a solid all-around ride and I know I'd love it - but it might be more along the outlaw-intensity and in that case I'd pick LR.

 

(Leaving Goliath out of it because it's just ok-overall and not really in the league of these others!)

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I'm talking about the Wildfire being built at Kolmarden. Both are the first RMCs we're seeing of this scale, both are terrain coasters speeding through wooded hillsides. They're actually really similar in a lot of ways which is why I think it's interesting to compare raw layouts.

I knew that you were talking about Wildfire at Kolmården, and I still think that Outlaw Run is a better comparison to Lightning Rod. Herschend calls up Rocky Mountain and they're like, "Hey, build us a kick-butt wooden coaster in this space" and they do it. Outlaw Run. Outlaw Run rockets to the top of coaster polls. Herschend calls up Rocky Mountain again and they're like, "Hey, you're awesome, build us another one and we'll give you a bigger space to work with" and they're doing it now. Lightning Rod.

 

Silver Dollar City and Silver Dollar C...I mean Dollywood have always been similar but different. The fact that Wildfire's being built right now at the same time is likely just a coincidence (though a coincidence brought on by Rocky Mountain's success).

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What looks like the better ride, this or Wildfire? True Lightning Rod wins by default because it's in the US and most of us will get to ride it at some point. But I'm curious, all things being equal, what people think. This ride has the launch and the amazing finale, but Wildfire is longer and has a wider variety of elements.

 

 

Are you sure that you don't mean to compare LR to Outlaw Run being that the two are more similar coasters (RMC)?

 

I'm talking about the Wildfire being built at Kolmarden. Both are the first RMCs we're seeing of this scale, both are terrain coasters speeding through wooded hillsides. They're actually really similar in a lot of ways which is why I think it's interesting to compare raw layouts.

 

Both look amazing of course, but personally I think Wildfire pretty clearly has the edge. It just has more to it. That's assuming it keeps its speed all the way to the end without petering out through the final S turn. Although the quadruple down potentially will be better than any single moment on Wildfire. Too bad they're not being built closer together so more people can compare.

 

I guess I'm just not sure why you would want come to this thread, where their new exciting roller coaster is being built, and try and compare if to another coaster being built on the other side of the world. No one has ridden either, and you know all its going to do is take away from the excitement of what they are getting. This is the most unique coaster being built in the US this year and "I" believe we should all be pumped up for it, not comparing it to Wildfire. They both look great but this is the Dollywood thread.

Personally the lift and the hill before the main drop are my favorite parts of the layout.

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I'm wondering if Lightning Rod is on schedule to open with the park in March, as my Spring Break starts the 18th and I want to go to Dollywood that upcoming week. Is it on schedule? I know Wild Eagle opened up pretty quickly/with the park, but sometimes coasters with new technology have lots of bugs and glitches that need to be worked out.

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I'm wondering if Lightning Rod is on schedule to open with the park in March, as my Spring Break starts the 18th and I want to go to Dollywood that upcoming week. Is it on schedule? I know Wild Eagle opened up pretty quickly/with the park, but sometimes coasters with new technology have lots of bugs and glitches that need to be worked out.

The trailer said it would open in March

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I'm heading out to Dollywood over Easter weekend with a group of friends. Does anyone have any experience with 4-6 bedroom cabins in the area? I've heard that getting a cabin is the best way to experience the area, but there are so many rental companies that it can be a tad overwhelming and would love to get any insight from you all.

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We stayed in one a few years back and we loved it. This year we were searching and noticed the price difference to stay in some of the ones controlled by Dollywood really was not bad at all and we get length of stay passes for the price of a one day ticket (parking is free). It really doesn't seem like there are many bad options just read the reviews before booking.

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I'm heading out to Dollywood over Easter weekend with a group of friends. Does anyone have any experience with 4-6 bedroom cabins in the area? I've heard that getting a cabin is the best way to experience the area, but there are so many rental companies that it can be a tad overwhelming and would love to get any insight from you all.

 

Here's a link to the top 50 rentals in/near Gatlinburg that are on VRBO...this is a good starting point for research.

VRBO's top 50 vacation rentals near Gatlinburg Tenn.

 

Here's an awesome mid-century mod rental that I hope to rent one of these days. Swiss retro rental

 

Good luck on your quest!

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I'm wondering if Lightning Rod is on schedule to open with the park in March, as my Spring Break starts the 18th and I want to go to Dollywood that upcoming week. Is it on schedule? I know Wild Eagle opened up pretty quickly/with the park, but sometimes coasters with new technology have lots of bugs and glitches that need to be worked out.

The trailer said it would open in March

 

Well technically "peeling out in March 2016" could mean March 31st to be fair. I'm always skeptic of opening dates because I've seen cases where rides have glitches as I said above.

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. . .but sometimes coasters with new technology have lots of bugs and glitches that need to be worked out.

 

Because we have never seen a coaster with a LSM launch before??

 

Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't really call an LSM launch "New Technology." LSM coasters have been up and running for quite some time now.

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