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p. 751 - Lightning Rod expected to reopen with the park!

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Alright, so I know we have a little more than a month until the official Dollywood 2016, but for the past few weeks I have been working on a No Limits creation/prediction of what I think Dollywood will be getting next year. The video is below: Enjoy!

 

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Here are a few things to keep in mind about the video:

 

The coaster is rumored to be a creation from Rocky Mountain Construction, with a launch, several inversions, and a twisting track layout. Please note that the coaster shown in the video is only an educated prediction of what the coaster may look like. This is not a confirmed layout, and should not be viewed as 100% accurate. With that being said, I did my absolute best to create a coaster that would fit in the cleared space for this coaster, and be a possible roller coaster that Dollywood would create, nonetheless.

 

For the prediction, I decided to create a layout with a lift and a launch, to fully propel the coaster through the course that has been designed to fit the space that has been designated for this attraction. With 20 million (possibly more!) in the bank for this attraction, those two elements could be perfectly reasonable to fit the budget. For example, some similar coasters like Outlaw Run at Dollywood’s sister park cost 10 million, and is about 2.5 thousand feet of track. The above ride is about only 1 thousand more of extra track, so a launch could use the extra money still left in the budget. What I am basically saying is that a coaster this size from RMC would be perfectly possible with 20 million.

 

-The speed of the trains on the airtime hills is a bit too much, and I realize this. I believe the track friction inside the program was set a bit low; I was playing around with it a bit and must have forgot to change it back to a “realistic” friction to run as a RMC coaster.

 

-The coaster type used inside the program was for a Great Coasters International design, which I chose to be the best to model a RMC coaster. Please note that this design is intended to be an RMC creation, but the simulator did not have the option for RMC. A little imagination helps! 

 

-Also, I have decided to include a mid-course brake run (MCBR) for capacity issues. The coaster is fairly long, so a MCBR would help with capacity and allow the trains to dispatch quicker. A double purpose for this, however is to serve as a safety function. If a rollback was to ever happen, most likely the launch fins would be set to slow the train, but this MCBR could put the train to a complete stop to prevent a valley in another section. I know rollbacks with flying launches are uncommon, but this is a precautionary feature that I thought would be likely to be utilized in the real coaster if it does feature a flying launch.

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You mean because now it might feel like it's... rolling and... coasting and... open?

There was a time in my life when I would have cared what Lightning Rod was made of.  So refreshing to give precisely zero effs. I just want to go to Dollywood and not worry about it being open! 

Yeah, the difference to the rider between I-Box track and the current track is really minimal. The only major difference would be that the ride would actually be open when you wanted to ride it and wh

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I will be in Dollywood the 18th and I really hope something can been seen than just a few blocks and dirt. I know in one picture I seen on Twitter the surveyors are on site, and the building for the station/que is starting in the first stage. I just hope to be able to spot something.

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I was at Dollywood today and got some new details. I'll be updating the blog later tonight and will spill what I've found out.

 

Hint: Hybrid

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Interesting conceptualization glouthan. That's actually bigger and more spread out than what I've been thinking. I've been thinking along the lines of something short, but maybe pretty tall, possibly with shuttle configuration. I like this better though, and I like the traditional lift/launch combo.

 

^If you're refering to "hybrid" I-box track, then that's a plus for me. If it will include a launch, I'd rather they go with more steel instead of trying to stay closer to a "true" wood coaster just to get the "first" title that no one will care about in two years. The topper track stays pretty smooth, but not smooth enough to really feel good at high speeds with launches.

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Enjoy!

 

hey cool, thanks

 

Haha, no problem, I love creating stuff like this.

 

Interesting conceptualization glouthan. That's actually bigger and more spread out than what I've been thinking. I've been thinking along the lines of something short, but maybe pretty tall, possibly with shuttle configuration. I like this better though, and I like the traditional lift/launch combo.

 

Thank you!

I tried to use all of the space that was available for the coaster, and for twenty million, I would expect some big things for this coaster. I mean, this has to be the most costly RMC ever, right?

 

I was at Dollywood today and got some new details. I'll be updating the blog later tonight and will spill what I've found out.

 

Hint: Hybrid

 

Ok, wow I'm starting to get really curious now and anxious, haha. That's interesting!

 

One month until the announcement!!!

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I feel the same about the Hybrid. Plus you can actually add some color the the coaster as to where I don't really think the topper track comes in that many colors except the basics. I mean think about this, yes this coaster is going to be a wooden/hybrid but it's also in the 50's area of the park. We aren't in Wilderness Pass/Timber Canyon anymore. This is going to be a whole new game and totally different theme, plus what are the 50's (and a ride themed to hot rods) without being colorful? All I'm saying is, I see the basic wood/rustic look only for the other areas of the park.

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^I'm pretty sure the topper track can come in other colors than just the natural color. Take Goliath at Six Flags Great America for instance - the track is orange. Now, the actual part of the track that gets colored is the thin layer of metal that is put over the actual topper track. The same thing happens with the I-Box, which can come in a variety of colors, so it would only make sense for the topper track to do the same.

 

I mean it's only a layer of paint and if they were to paint the track orange like they did on Goliath, they may as well be able to paint the track with any color.

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While colorful RMCs like Twisted Colossus and Wicked Cyclone are cool, there's something to be said about the natural wood color of Outlaw Run as well, which I think would look great in Dollywood's atmosphere, just like how it fit Silver Dollar City's.

 

I look forward to Dollywood's announcement. I find it impressive that they will have installed 3 roller coasters since 2012 as of 2016.

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Alright...here's the latest info added to http://www.pigeonforgetnguide.com/things-to-do/new-dollywood-roller-coaster-in-2016/

 

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After a couple of weeks of practically nothing happening on the hill and sources going “dark” on us, we swung by Dollywood today and got some new info along with some pics of the action! First off, it looks as if surveyors have been hired because there are new markers lining the middle of the paths going up the hill…PLUS, an excavator was working the top of the hill today (as shown in the pic below)! Yes, work has officially continued on the hill (more info on that below).

 

Alright, let’s get to the juicy stuff. I spoke with a couple of people today that I’ll keep anonymous, but they are more-in-the-know than most. I am, however, the tiniest bit reserved on the accuracy of the info only because they aren’t directly “working” on the coaster itself. With that said, here’s the new info I received.

 

*Let’s get this out of the way first off…work has continued on the hill! The pic to the right shows an excavator at the very top of the hill and it was busy moving dirt all day today. As mentioned before, new survey markers are lined up the middle of the cleared paths, which leads us to assume RMC has their surveyors and work has been able to move forward, which means we’ll see MAJOR changes within the next month on the hill!

 

*I saw some blueprints…and good GRIEF is it a set of blueprints. Let’s just say that when they were rolled up, it looked like a roll of carpet that the foreman had to throw on his shoulder to carry. My grandfather owned a construction company that built many of the buildings in Pigeon Forge and I have never seen a set of blueprints like this. Soooooo many details…this new attraction is going to be incredible.

 

*The new coaster will be a HYBRID…a mix of steel and wood. I’m told there is a bunch of wood (and other materials) already on-site with RMC info on it. I couldn’t get more details about the construction other than “hybrid” and a smile…so I’m holding off “confirming” the track type and such, but if there is a “bunch of wood” onsite, my assumption is a wood construction with a steel track such as RMC’s IBox track…but we’ll find out for sure on August 7…if not sooner. When I asked if it was indeed RMC, the reply was "Well, that's who is back there right now!"

 

*It was mentioned that the employee building you see to the right of the hill will be removed and the track will use more of the front of that hill than what is currently cleared. Personally, I’m skeptical on this simply because I can’t see Dollywood putting riders so close to employee roads, parking, etc. They like to keep everything within a theme and it’s just hard to see them putting people “behind the scenes” so to speak. BUT, I’m adding this simply because of the confidence of the person that told me.

 

*I can confirm that there is a lot more clearing and work done that what you can see from most pictures posted of the “front” of the hill. I’m not posting pics simply because it’s not something that can be seen by the general public and pics such as that have historically gotten people into hot water for sharing, which is not something I care to deal with over this…so you’re just going to have to trust me as I can 100% confirm that what you see from the 50’s section is just a fraction of the work that has been done so far on “the hill”. Let’s just say it will be a fun layout!

Finally, here’s a pano of the construction today on July 7. There were a lot of workers incredibly busy on numerous aspects of the project. Needless to say, we’re going to see a LOT of changes between now and the announcement!

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That's as much as I could squeeze out of them today...too many people are scared to lose their jobs! lol

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Very cool. Now they're really getting to work. I like your write up on all the clues.

 

August 7 is only a month away... remember when it was normal to have to wait until the park closed for the next year? I swear at some point they'll be announcing next year's attraction on opening day.

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I'm sure that this will be Topper Track and not IBox.

 

That's kind of what I'm thinking right now because:

 

A) The Herschend company has worked with RMC and this track before, so they know what to expect with this track

 

B) They can market it as the first launching woodie, and nowadays, a marketing appeal is key for a major attraction

 

C) Dollywood seems to be the type of park that would want to keep a coaster wooden if that makes sense. The Herschend company makes rides that fit into the natural feel of the park and IBox just screams out of place for Dollywood in my mind. They don't seem like the company that's going to ruin the coaster's wooden title by using the IBox when they are making a wood structure already.

 

I guess the rumors are for the IBox, though. We will have to wait and see what happens. By the way, thanks ASE for constantly updating that page of clues - it's really helpful and gets me more excited for this project!

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I am hoping for a launched Topper Track, as the title of "world's first launched wooden coaster" would be awesome.

 

However, at the end of the day, it really doesn't make a huge difference, as (since it's an RMC) it'll be an awesome ride no matter what, and I doubt I-Box coasters ride that much differently that Topper Track ones.

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For anyone (if anyone) wants to see the big difference in a topper and Ibox I have pictures down below because I was once and still am in certain areas as this question here. With the topper track such as in Outlaw Run, what are the holes in the track for? This will be my first RMC so either way I am excited but just thought I'd post a few pictures for comparisons.

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The holes are for access to the bolts that secure the top layer of steel to the wooden stack below it. The holes are then covered by another strip of steel that the cars actually run on.

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The *only* reason I leaned toward IBox was when the person I was talking to said it would be a hybrid, and knowing Alan Schilke's explanation of hybrid vs wooden when talking about IBox vs Topper in this video:

 

I completely agree with those of you hoping for a topper track as well simply for the hope of having the first wooden launched coaster!

 

Again, the info I received was from people "around" the project...not directly involved, so I'm holding off on confirming anything just yet.

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I could see this being a hybrid IF it indeed does have a launch. Simply just thinking about the stress involved, I feel that the iBox design would be able to hold a launch more and allow more to work with with adding the mechanisms required.

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If it is indead I-Box, do we really consider this the first "Launched Wooden Coaster". I mean think about it. We consider all other I-Box tracks steel coasters. Wouldn't this then be a steel coaster as well, taking away the Launched Wooden marketing push?

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I could see this being a hybrid IF it indeed does have a launch. Simply just thinking about the stress involved, I feel that the iBox design would be able to hold a launch more and allow more to work with with adding the mechanisms required.
If it is indead I-Box, do we really consider this the first "Launched Wooden Coaster". I mean think about it. We consider all other I-Box tracks steel coasters. Wouldn't this then be a steel coaster as well, taking away the Launched Wooden marketing push?

 

If they do use the IBox, then yes, it would take away the marketing edge of having the first launched wooden coaster.

 

However, maybe they could get around that by only using IBox for the launch section and have it be topper track for the rest of the ride. I know they did this for Goliath - the brake run track is topper, but the station track is all steel and would be classified as IBox. So if they wanted to they could theoretically switch tracks to hybrid during the launch section and then go back the topper. I guess with that they could market it as wooden, but they might get a bit of controversy.

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