verticalzero Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Do you class rides which have "Lim/Air" (TTD, Stealth) starts as a coaster, or would they be called a "Thrill ride". Does a Coaster need to have a "Chain lift hill" to be classed as a proper roller coaster..? Your views please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 No. Here's a good one, and thanks to Duane Marden for this one but hey, if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck and craps like a duck then chances are...it's a duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncf Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not even worth discussing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 As long as it's powered by gravity at some point, it doesn't matter if it has a lift or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Everyone has a different opinion. Mine is basically the same as rcdb. As long as at some point in the ride, the car travels upwards itself, it is a coaster. It only gets problematic with butterflies and some log flumes. Also with powered coasters, since I also count those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Personal guideline for me: Must coast up a hill. However, this does make for some interesting results. Under this guideline: Not a coaster Any Fabbri BatFlyer Any Powered Coaster Any 1st Gen Drop Tower Is a coaster Pretzel Dark Rides Dudley DooRight Any Arrow that still has a dip (Kennywood is the only one I can think of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazan Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 To me, its anything that gives the feel of a normal coaster. I dont have certain rules, I just use my common sense. As long as it has forces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster mad Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 IMO i think they are coasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 The Premier "spaghetti bowls" are a good example. They're launched, but once reaching the highest point of the ride, they rely on gravity to finish the course. Short answer...no. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterguy618 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 No. But I consider coasters with a lift hill a standard coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster mad Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 But would you still class coasters with out them a coaster or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't consider it a coaster if it doesn't have Dragonheart breathing fire on you as you go through the vertical loop. Therefore, I've only ridden four roller coasters, and all of them have been at the Wisconsin State Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahecht Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I've posted a list before of what is needed for something to be considered a coaster, but the gist of it is that: The car must coast through two changes in direction without the influence of forces other than friction or gravity The car must coast without the influence of forces other than friction or gravity for at least 1/4 the track length The second clause is designed to rule out rides such as Splash Mountain or Dudly Do-Right which are clearly not coasters. However, I will admit that the 1/4 is somewhat arbitrary. There are also some rides which fit the definition which I don't count as coasters, such as an Intamin Half-Pipe, and some that don't fit the description, such as a 1st Gen Free-Fall, which I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 For me it's a pretty generalized, common-sense type thing...I don't count powered coasters, but for anything else, I just think that the track/vehicle design has to bear some resemblence to a coaster. 1st gen freefalls, log flumes, etc., aren't really designed or marketed as coasters, so I don't count them even though some people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkdcoaster Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Personal guideline for me: Must coast up a hill. However, this does make for some interesting results. Under this guideline: Not a coaster Any Fabbri BatFlyer Any Powered Coaster Any 1st Gen Drop Tower Is a coaster Pretzel Dark Rides Dudley DooRight Any Arrow that still has a dip (Kennywood is the only one I can think of) what about Tilt a whirls?...some people count each tub as an individual coaster......some people will do anything to inflate their coaster count launched.....yes IMO powered...it depends, I classify thunder Run at PCW a coaster but not something like Smurf Mountain or a bayern curve. JEFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazen_AZN Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Heres my general rule... If it was MADE to be a coaster, then it's a coaster. (except powered coasters) So many things that obviously arn't coasters could very well end up being classified as them if you use ules like "if it's powered by gravity, and is on a track, then its a coaster." In that case, every swinging gondola on DCA's ferriswheel would be a seperate credit. Try to find a way to logically explain why 1st gen intamin freefalls ARN'T coasters... Exactly, you can't. Isn't "powered coaster" an oxymoron anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster mad Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 So would you count S:TE as a coaster then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ats86 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 roller coaster n. 1. A steep, sharply curving elevated railway with small open passenger cars that is operated at high speeds as a ride, especially in an amusement park. I'd say S:TE fits that description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 not havin' any chains for roller coaster make sense! it's cool, right? it's like " lift off at over 120 mph! ( known as launched ride ) i wanna make much of their kinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahecht Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Try to find a way to logically explain why 1st gen intamin freefalls ARN'T coasters... a) they never coast uphill b) they only coast through one change in direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetrial3141592 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 In order to be a coaster: The rolling stock must have wheels. The rolling stock must go through at least two changes in elevation. The rolling stock must be powered by gravity for at least 1/4 the ride. Therefore these are NOT coasters: Dudley DoRight Dragon (at Canobie) These ones are: Superman: The Escape Mack AquaCoasters Alpine Slides Intamin 1st-gen freefalls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJackson Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Wait, then S&S launch towers would classify as coasters. No one's mentioned them yet, I think. They have wheels, they depend on gravity to pull them back down, and they launch up or down, which is a change in elevation, judjing by what you all are saying. That being said, I think more classification would be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollocoast Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 ^ S&S Towers do not depend on gravity in any way. As for me, well... A coaster is a coaster if it's a coaster! Simplicity is the key here I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darien Laker Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 If RCDB.com says it's a coaster, then I say it's a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJackson Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 ^ S&S Towers do not depend on gravity in any way. How do you figure that? I'm thinking they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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