Neutuered Coasters

[Stitch]

The ultimate Neutering was done to this psycho masterpiece. Torn down and rebuilt as the Comet.

Crystal Beach Cyclone

[ScottBrown]

I guess that would be true wouldn't it ^

[CoasterFanatic]

^^ The funny thing about the CBC is that in all my years, I have only seen one writing where someone talked about the ride, an it was very vague.

 

While it looks like the most intense thing ever built, I have always wondered. Was it that bad? Sure they had a nurse in the station, but that kind of talk was always used back in the day to hype a park. One park in NY even claimed to have a miniature village inhabited by 40,000 little people. It was also common to hear of coasters going upwards of 100mph.

[Stitch]

I have wondered the same thing, would it be intense by todays standards. I think that the reasons it was intense was do to the technology back then but there is no way to tell. You would need to take exact blue prints of it and rebuild it to the exact specifactions to see if the layout was the intense factor or if it was the technology used.

[crispy]

Here is a post I made about the CRC, with an interview with a person who actually rode it, yeah it was a bit intense

 

 

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=551

[Stitch]

I can't believe I forgot about this notoriously Neutered coaster, Drachen Fire! I lower my head in shame for not remembering

Credited to Rcdb

[TheStig]

Gwazi, once a great coaster, now a back breaking piece of crap...

 

Colin C

[deathmole]

The big one at the pleasure beach blackpool has had its fair share of modifications, the reprofiled first drop is much tamer, as if the helix and finale drop into the tunnel since they added the brakes before hand.

 

Sure the rides been neutered to hell, but I suppsoe it needed it, the chassis of the cars were warped after a few years of service due to the profile of the drop. It'd still have been nice to try the drop though.

 

Before: http://www.3piers.com/bpbbigone.jpg

 

After: http://www.rcdb.com/ig775.htm?picture=24

 

Piccys credited to 3piers.com and rcdb.com respectivly.

 

Notice in the after piccy the extra blue frame work the track has been raised on, doesnt drop as sharp or bank nearly as quick, damn atlott and lomax!

[X]

I would say Collosus, Revelution, Perilous Plunge, Beast, Gwazi, Zonga, Comet, Mean Streak, Big Bad Wolf and two water slides at Hurricane Harbor called Twisted Fang and Coiled Cobra. They used to be fun and smooth. Now the slides go slow, scratch your back and get water in your eyes plus you have to wait an HOUR to ride those slides!

[Stitch]

I had no idea my term "Neutured" would become common terminology here

[ECZenith]

Alpengeist was slowed down dramatically but I guess the worst of all is SFNE's Cyclone. Still rough... just not as good after several "projects" were done on it. I love the new trains though.

[Blue0ctane]

As of what I've heard from other people, Magnum's been neutered since it first opened.

 

And on Montu - I never got a chance to ride without it being neutered, and it was an AMAZING ride for me in its current state. I could only imagine it without the so-called trims. Anyone care for a description?

[XII]

California Trimming(CA Screamin) Ever since the crash in the summer, the park added those damn trim brakes which IMO really made a less fun ride. It IMHO, feels diffrent with those trims! It used to be a top 10 ride for me, now its been tamed into CA Trimming!

[Jon Sabo]

As a former BG employee, I would say all of these were modified at some point in its lifetime: All of these modifications done to the rides below were part of a directive program in response to either guest-related injuries/complaints or modified maintenance issues (most cases) in which we had more wear on certain components (track/train-chassis) than normal.

1. Nessie (trim-brake after the 1st turnaround): we installed in during the cold winter to reduce wear on that section of track and towards the entry of #1 loop. Booo

2. BBW-trims added after #2 lift in '86. Issues with welding track (literally) twice a week and the repairing of wheels more frequently. Another issue regarding the ending of the ride, but that's another story..lol

3. Alpengeist-trim brake (lift) and the MCBR. The ride WIDE OPEN AT NITE is absolutely a different beast.

4. Drachen Fire- there is not enough room to write all the issues on this one. My worst moment was actually when we removed the 1st corkscrew and modified the track. We had it valley one time in before peak winter time.

 

Sadly, many of the modifications parks now perform is in response towards the lawsuits, increased insurance costs, and issues regarding maintenance wear. The latter of which generally can increase the budget (just off of one coaster) by about $75,000-100k a season, not including parts. That is just overtime labor to repair the ride to get open for guests.

[larrygator]

SFNE Cyclone takes the cake for me.

 

Mean Streak is another one.

 

A haven't ridden Deperado in 8 years but I hear it is not the coaster it used to be, due to being unkept.

 

Personally I don't feel much of a difference in Magnum versus when I first rode in the early 90's

[KrakenKing]

Also in Response to Montu...

 

I did have the chance to ride it 3 times without the trims (The ones before the Batwing and also the MCBR not being so harsh)... The ride used to make me black out at the bottom of the batwing. Also, the ride used to SPEED though the section after the MCBR, making me black out before the flatspin as well.

 

Around the '98 or '99 season the trims were turned on and slowed the train down considerably, making it crawl though the last section of the ride.

 

Lately though, I've been going a lot because I just bought a season pass. On some lucky days (Usually Sundays), the trims before the batwing are either turned off or come on only for the last two cars. The MCBR is also either turned off or does not slow the train down as much, making the ride feel like it was in the early years.

 

Hopefully BGT (BGA) keeps reducing the trims on the ride, restoring it to its former glory.

 

For rides that have gotten neutered, my vote goes to Kraken...

 

That ride (For me) used to be intense in it's opening years, also last summer it was running extremely fast... lately they either changed the wheel bearings or have added trims, but the ride seems to meander through it's course... it's not fun anymore

[pete4winds]

I haven't been to SFNE yet this year, but I'm going with Cyclone (at least as it was in its 2005 incarnation). Maybe it's a better ride this year, but in my opinion it will never again live up to its opening season, 1983. I remember spending an entire day that year just going between it and Black Widow in the rain. Now THAT was a good time!

[ParkTrips]

Revolution and SooperDooperLooper are just painful to imagine that they were once better and now tamed. At least Hershey didn't OTSR theirs up, but both are painful for me to imagine how good they probably were.

 

Montu... oh Montu, I dont think there would be much doubt in my mind as to which Invert is my favorite, but the brakes just kill the ride. I mean, it seems to barely crawl over the second loop at times, and its also a damned shame.

 

Mind Bender.. people will think I am crazy for calling a personal top 5 steel of mine tamed/neutered, but the brakes actually hurt the ride quite a bit. Without brakes, the thing delivers SROS air and books insanely fast. The drop before the second loop is insane without those brakes on, and that loop damn near kills. Just incredible, so its sad to see it run with brakes to keep intervals with 2 trains... speaking of that park, the GA Cyclone kicks without its trims on but is just painful as crap with them on

 

Mean Streak... UGH! So boring, so tame, so useless...

 

And of course there are more, but those came to mind first.

 

Lately though, I've been going a lot because I just bought a season pass. On some lucky days (Usually Sundays), the trims before the batwing are either turned off or come on only for the last two cars. The MCBR is also either turned off or does not slow the train down as much, making the ride feel like it was in the early years.

 

Perhaps you are just going on light days - if the trains aren't being filled they won't go as fast as they would full, and the trim "grip intensity", if you will, is based upon the passing speed of prior trains. Plus, if they only have 1 (or even 2, I guess) train on the track, they dont need the MCBR as much as if they run all three.

[KrakenKing]

No, I was there one day and Montu had about a 20min wait. All three train were running and this was actually the first time I experienced Montu without the trims before the batwing and also with minor "Grip intensity" on the MCBR.

[Reon]

well...Mean Streak nearly neutered ME. Does that count?

Mantis and Beast>.>

[oriolat]

Coaster Exprees (formerly Wild Wild West) at Parque Warner (or WBMWM).

 

From the latest reviews the ride has been neutered quite a lot.

I mean, in the first season of operation of the park this coaster (with new-gen Intamin trains) was butter-smoth but then, the ride turned into something really rough and since that moment, the ride have been worse and worse every season-

 

It used to have some airtime in the two last hills and even in the big one after the big upward helix, but now it's hurts like a b*stard.

[viking86]

Thundercoaster at Tusenfryd was amazing when it opened, but now its really rough and slow. However, once it starts raining it becomes a completely different ride with insane ejector airtime. But its a shame that it has to be raining for the ride to be good...

[307]

Mighty Canadian Minebuster (PCW) - Completely hacked to make way for new waterpark

 

Thank you! Glad someone noticed this one. Used to be a lot of fun, gave a few pops of airtime. By no means was it world class, but it's re-rideability was a lot higher, and the ride itself was a lot more enjoyable.

 

Now, it's rough and slooooooooooow.

[the_rock401]

I don't know about Montu, but last February when I rode it for the first time with brakes, it was STILL forceful through thr duration of the ride. Gwazi Lion was fine, Gwazi Tiger was lousy.

 

Two coasters that seems to be getting overlooked are Wild Thing and High Roller at Valleyfair. Again, I never rode High Roller sans trim brakes, but the only kick of airtime is the last bump going into the turnaround before the station. Tremendous potential here. As for Wild Thing, it's a shame when the only time it runs partially without mid-course brakes is Coaster Craze night ERT.

[pierced_b0i]

I like the old steel phantom not phantoms revenge..IMO its kind of boring now.. sure good airtime but not the force it had before..Im sure people didnt like it but last time it was steel phantom...i rode it i think 8 times in a row..Can you say HEADACHE?!