verticalzero Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Would (no pun) this work, create a woodie which is launched like TTD, but not as fast of course, it could have the 1st hill of 150ft and an out n back/twister layout. I guess this may not appeal to most coaster fans as a woodie is supposed to be a traditional coaster with a chain and lift hill. What are your views if Custom Coasters Inc/S&S Power etc announced one...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorisTF Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 The idea doesnt grab me, personally. Also, I would be REALLY shocked if Custom Coasters (If by that you mean CCI) announced one for 2007... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 ...launched like TTD ... In the title you mention LIM's, but you use TTD as an example?! As for LIM's... They'd be impossible on a Woodie. But a hydraulic launch like TTD? VERY possible, and I could see Intamin doing that. Hey, El Toro has a cable lift which is very similar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Why would LIM's be impossible on a woodie? Of course they would have to redesign the trains, but they would have to do that with a hydraulic launch too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Haha, that's gonna cause a huge rift among wooden coaster lovers! But a gimmick like that might just be good for any park that builds such a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjholla2003 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I'd only try that with an Intamin prefab. I don't want to shake all of the way down the track in PTC trains or G Trains. That's a bit too much shuffling in the train. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immel Man Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 How bout we just leave launches to steel coasters. I don't think any kind of launch really fits the character of a wood coaster, they're probably better off without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 There was an article about S&S Power in First Drop magazine a few years ago which mentioned something about the possibility of a launched wooden coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryH Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I actually thought of a launched woodie a few years back. The seats better be comfy because a launch on wooden tracks might be painful! Put some GCII Millenium Flyer trains on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 They could do the launch on steel tracks, like the loop on SoB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imhotep Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I guess I just dont get it. Im sure it would be cool, in a gimmicky way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Why would LIM's be impossible on a woodie? Of course they would have to redesign the trains, but they would have to do that with a hydraulic launch too... Ever noticed how a wooden style coaster is loosely on the track? For LIM's there must be no tolerance... As for it not fitting the character... If we would've gone with that all the time we'd still live in boring times. I can very much see it happening, especially on the Intamin prefabs. But it'd remain a gimmick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishmaster Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 ^ LIM's are basicly the same as magnetic brakes, just used differently. So if Intamin can put magnetic brakes on their wooden coasters why wouldn't they be able to put LIM's on them too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_maniac Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 hmm that's an interesting thought.. I never really thought about it. A hydraulic launch is definitely possible on a wooden coaster.. You never know, these coaster designers are coming up with all sorts of stuff, so it could very well be in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterCrazy Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't think we will ever see a wooden launch coaster. I think there are too many things would stop one from being built. If someone ever built one I don't think it would last very long before it ran into major problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't think we will ever see a wooden launch coaster. I think there are too many things would stop one from being built. If someone ever built one I don't think it would last very long before it ran into major problems. Have you ever heared about the Intamin prefabs? Sure, many don't see them as "real" Woodies (me included), but they are still Woodies and it'll be easily possible on them. Would you have ever thought of a loop on a Woodie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterCrazy Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 ^No, I never thought there would be a wooden looping coaster. However there is a difference between a looping coaster and a launch coaster. When you build a wooden looping coaster, the loop is the only part of ride that gets a unusual amount of force placed on the track. And when I say unusual amount of force I mean unusual amount of force for a wooden coaster. The the extra force only gets placed on the part with the loop. If you where to build a wooden launch coaster you would have an unusual amount of force on many different parts of the ride instead of just one part of the ride. I don't think the track would be the problem. I think the problem would be the supports since they would be wood instead of steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 And how does the way you get energy have to do with the rest of the ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetrial3141592 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Good point. The launch could be steel, the rest wood, and the trains could be Century Flyer (vintage P&C) or Millennium Flyer (GCI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't think the track would be the problem. I think the problem would be the supports since they would be wood instead of steel. ... kinda like the Gravity Group designs... If there is extra force being exerted, that just calls for stronger supports! No biggie! Vote: gimmick, and a lame one at that. - Joe, who doesn't even really like steel launches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imhotep Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 What would be the point of a 'wooden launch coaster' if the launch isnt wood? Kinda ruins the novelty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonKhan Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Good point. The launch could be steel, the rest wood, and the trains could be Century Flyer (vintage P&C) or Millennium Flyer (GCI). Why? There is absolutely no reason why an INTAMIN PREFAB Woodie could not sport a launch... I don't see any other companies doing such thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 It could be done, but I don't think many parks would be interested in doing this. The force from the launch plus the speed would put a lot of wear and tear on the wooden portion of the ride, even if the launch was steel. It wouldn't feel very wooden at all and therefore would be pretty pointless in having it made out of wood. For now I think they should stick with building launched coasters out of steel and leaving the classic feel to wood. Just look how popular the wooden coaster with a loop craze is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Well I think that with the pre-fab Intamin wooden track that this is very possible. I mean its not like the launch is going to pull 2-3 G's, I mean SoB's loop give a little bit of hang time (if you can feel it over the groin pounding). The launch would, like the loop, would be there for function and not be some ridiculous amount of force. I think that if the Millennium Flyers were to be used on a launched wooden coaster, they would DEFINATELY need a larger backrest that supports the riders head, which kills some of the visibilty given by these trains. I think its perfectly possible, and I hope that I can ride one in my life time! Colin C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Possible? Yes But it would strip a wooden coaster of its characteristic of being an old fashioned kind of coaster, IMO. As Immel Man said, lets just leave it to the Steels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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