castaway_kid Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 So according to a job opening on http://www.sixflagsjobs.com, lights for Holiday In The Park start to go up on August 8th. I hope this means that like Six Flags Magic Mountain, the lights will be used to add to the atmosphere during Fright Fest as well Don't think so, They just have to get the HIP stuff up before fright fest stuff because the turn around is so fast between the events. Its much easier to put up Christmas lights then throw fright fest on top of it and come November, remove the fright fest and already have all the lights in place. Its a very long process and with it being the first year its even longer. As far as I know there are no plan to use the HIP lights for FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You guys are seriously in for a treat. Holiday in the Park at Great Adventure was outstanding. It gives the park an entirely different feel and the decorations are very, very solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPoster32 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You guys are seriously in for a treat. Holiday in the Park at Great Adventure was outstanding. It gives the park an entirely different feel and the decorations are very, very solid. The difference here is that our HITP cannot just throw some lights up and call it good. We have the best Christmas Festival (outside of Disney) in the same state as SDC - and if you think the two won't be compared you are kidding yourself. So Six Flags is going to have to try a lot harder than what they do with Fright Fest (which pales in comparison to Haunt at WOF or even some of the local scares in the STL metro area) or else they're just wasting money that should have been spent on a bigger ride that would have been utilized the entire season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You guys are seriously in for a treat. Holiday in the Park at Great Adventure was outstanding. It gives the park an entirely different feel and the decorations are very, very solid. The difference here is that our HITP cannot just throw some lights up and call it good. That's not what they did at Great Adventure either. We go to Dollywood's event every year. The decorations at Dollywood are probably slightly better, but not by much. They're playing on the same level (except of course in the shows department), we were blown away by Great Adventure. Six Flags doesn't do the lights themselves, they contract it out to a company called Oak Island Creative. They're outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiftThrill Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 During HitP, SFStL will literally turn into Holiday World. They have the wooden coasters, they have the launch coaster, they have the dark ride, and during that time they'll have the theming too. They can finally stop being budget Holiday World and become the real deal. In all seriousness though Holiday in the Park is very awesome at SFFT so I'd imagine it would be equally awesome at SFStL especially with the wooded setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPoster32 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 You guys are seriously in for a treat. Holiday in the Park at Great Adventure was outstanding. It gives the park an entirely different feel and the decorations are very, very solid. The difference here is that our HITP cannot just throw some lights up and call it good. That's not what they did at Great Adventure either. We go to Dollywood's event every year. The decorations at Dollywood are probably slightly better, but not by much. They're playing on the same level (except of course in the shows department), we were blown away by Great Adventure. Six Flags doesn't do the lights themselves, they contract it out to a company called Oak Island Creative. They're outstanding. Having been to both DW and SDC's events I can say without hesitation that even DW's event pales in comparison to SDC's. I'd almost say it's better than Disney's but they have the "mouse appeal" going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Fair enough as I haven't been there, but still... you'll be impressed by Oak Island. Hopefully it helps your expectations knowing that Six Flags has nothing to do with the installation or maintenance of the light displays short of cutting a check to an outside contractor to let them handle it. I have no doubt that the SDC event will be better, but given that the parks are over 3 hours apart that shouldn't matter to most people, and Holiday in the Park is still a great event. Plus the offseason has been cut in half so by default that should make this an excellent addition for any park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisGraslie Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I don't think it's fair to say that Six Flags St Louis wouldn't be able to handle an event like Holiday In The Park on their own considering how much better Fright Fest gets every year, but it's still nice to see another company like Oak Island help with all of it. I'm excited to see how all of it turns out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I could care less about SDC'S holiday in the park. I'm not going to Branson in December during money our hording season. You're probably right that SDC will blow SFSTL out of the water. However, I think the majority of people like me could care less, because we're not going to be traveling to Branson in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPoster32 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I could care less about SDC'S holiday in the park. I'm not going to Branson in December during money our hording season. You're probably right that SDC will blow SFSTL out of the water. However, I think the majority of people like me could care less, because we're not going to be traveling to Branson in the winter. You're really missing out then. Very few parks offer two Broadway quality shows, a lighted parade, millions of lights on top of world class rides. While I'm sure SF's attempt will be cute, it won't be in the same league. Someone mentioned SFFT's HITP and how they were impressed. If you were, then you'll like SFSTL's as SFFT's is not even the best HITP in the state of Texas (that goes to SFOT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Corn Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Does anyone know what they would have to do to reopen Boomerang? Would they just have to replace the parts on that car and do some rigourous safety checks, or would they have to do more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 It should also be noted that at SDC you have to worry about temperature limits on the coasters. Six Flags on the other hand ignores them entirely. Nitro was dispatching train after train even when it dipped into the high 20's. They never closed a single ride during the entire event for low temps so if you're into rides, score one for Six Flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Does anyone know what they would have to do to reopen Boomerang? First they will have to blowtorch all the blemishes out of the track, so they'll have to blowtorch the entire track. Next they'll have to relocate the supports so they go east past Tidal Wave and down into the valley. Then instead of having two 110-foot lifts, they'll have to combine them into one 220-foot lift. Finally, they'll get B&M to re-manufacture all the track, and they can re-open it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsAstroworld Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Does anyone know what they would have to do to reopen Boomerang? First they will have to blowtorch all the blemishes out of the track, so they'll have to blowtorch the entire track. Next they'll have to relocate the supports so they go east past Tidal Wave and down into the valley. Then instead of having two 110-foot lifts, they'll have to combine them into one 220-foot lift. Finally, they'll get B&M to re-manufacture all the track, and they can re-open it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Woodie Warrior Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 It should also be noted that at SDC you have to worry about temperature limits on the coasters. Six Flags on the other hand ignores them entirely. Nitro was dispatching train after train even when it dipped into the high 20's. They never closed a single ride during the entire event for low temps so if you're into rides, score one for Six Flags. I'm not so sure that this will be the case here in St. Louis. When I visited earlier this year (in the spring), Boss was closed for low temperature, and I believe Pandemonium did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiftThrill Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah I'd expect that Boss would be prone to valleying and we already saw what happened with Pandemonium @ SFNE and high winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPoster32 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 It should also be noted that at SDC you have to worry about temperature limits on the coasters. Six Flags on the other hand ignores them entirely. Nitro was dispatching train after train even when it dipped into the high 20's. They never closed a single ride during the entire event for low temps so if you're into rides, score one for Six Flags. So you are celebrating a company disregarding safety measures put in place by the manufacturer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I guarantee you there was not a single person at Great Adventure on a 20 degree night last December that was disappointed Nitro opened up. And there's a major difference between, say, a restraint not locking properly and the park saying "ahh, f*ck it you're fine" and running a ride in low temperatures. Have some fun it's not all life and death all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkFunk Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 It should also be noted that at SDC you have to worry about temperature limits on the coasters. Six Flags on the other hand ignores them entirely. Nitro was dispatching train after train even when it dipped into the high 20's. They never closed a single ride during the entire event for low temps so if you're into rides, score one for Six Flags. So you are celebrating a company disregarding safety measures put in place by the manufacturer? I'm sure Six Flags put thousands in imminent danger without first consulting as to whether or not it was OK with the maintenance staff. They ran roller coasters in low temperatures. There's no risk inherent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomPoster32 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) It should also be noted that at SDC you have to worry about temperature limits on the coasters. Six Flags on the other hand ignores them entirely. Nitro was dispatching train after train even when it dipped into the high 20's. They never closed a single ride during the entire event for low temps so if you're into rides, score one for Six Flags. So you are celebrating a company disregarding safety measures put in place by the manufacturer? I'm sure Six Flags put thousands in imminent danger without first consulting as to whether or not it was OK with the maintenance staff. They ran roller coasters in low temperatures. There's no risk inherent. Right. Because manufacturers just put "don't run below ____ temp" on rides for grins and giggles. Edited July 21, 2016 by PhantomPoster32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 There's also seat belts on Diamondback. Not everything is life and death, some things are just unnecessary "suggestions," not requirements. Nobody's going to sue Six Flags for running a ride when it's cold outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 There's also seat belts on Diamondback. Not everything is life and death, some things are just unnecessary "suggestions," not requirements. Nobody's going to sue Six Flags for running a ride when it's cold outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just because they're the manufacturer's suggestions doesn't mean the suggestions are related to safety when they could be more related to maintenance and reliability? You're really missing out then. Very few parks offer two Broadway quality shows, a lighted parade, millions of lights on top of world class rides. While I'm sure SF's attempt will be cute, it won't be in the same league. Shows and parades are not my thing, man. As long as there are lights, a little Christmas music playing, and the opportunity to ride coasters within a 45 minute drive during a unique time of year to be riding coasters, I'll be content. This is also contingent on the beer man's presence in the park and starting my day off with a good cup of coffee with Bailey's Irish Cream mixed in. It will also be my first trip to our park in about five years, which will make this more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARLEYGUYJB Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Has anyone rode Rush Street Flyer in 2016? I can't find it in our park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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