KingRCT3 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 The only grip I have with the lift hill is those maintenance plateforms that break the purity of the design. I'd love to see it like this: (Original picture by dubaidave) But hey, when you're nitpicking about such details, you know the coaster is already so damn fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 ^ Those are for the cable return though I don't understand why they chose to use a design that uses a lot more cable and puts a lot more stress on the lift hill, when the cable return can be under the lift like most cable lifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFEV Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I don't understand why they chose to use a design that uses a lot more cable and puts a lot more stress on the lift hill, when the cable return can be under the lift like most cable lifts. I don't disagree at all. Not to mention that, the more "turns" that a steel cable makes, there is also a lot more wear and tear put on the cable itself. To answer your question, though, I believe that there is a service road (access to the receiving area and parking underneath the park) and fire access that still needs to run underneath the lift. In fact, on Google Earth, the original access road is still marked running under the new lift hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yeah, the cable for the cable lift seems to go down to the motor room as usual, but instead of going straight back to the start of the lift (red arrows), it goes up again in order to go over the road. Still the same pic from dubaidave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Is there a safety reason why they couldn't have run a cable-return trench (i.e. Intimidator) underneath the existing road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Is there a safety reason why they couldn't have run a cable-return trench (i.e. Intimidator) underneath the existing road? That's a good question. With all the money they're spending on the coasters, they really couldn't have cut into the service roads and have the cable return underground? For me it's not even a cosmetic thing, those angles along the cable path underneath the lift just seem like they'd be screaming "maintenance pain in the ass." The only thing I could think of safety wise is it might have to do with being able to inspect and access the portion of cable that would be underground. Still, I think they could have figured something out. I was not aware that Intimidator's cable went underground, so thanks for sharing the knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 They could've bury it underground and put metal doors on top of the whole path to access the cable when they need to maintain or change it though. Does it have something to do with the climate I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinematics Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm pretty sure Intimidator's cable is just a giant cylinder that rolls in X direction to move it. It's at the bottom of the first drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 It does have a big cylinder at the bottom of the drop: But a cable lift, just as everything that involve a cable (-> hydraulic launches), needs to form a closed loop in order to have a proper tension. In this picture you can see the return mechanism: The red pulley is on a rolling trolley and have a cylinder attached to it. This is what gives the tension to the cable. I don't know if it's dynamic or static, but on some coasters you can see it dampen whenever a train catches the lift (a chain lift needs tension as well, so you have similar mechanisms: Usually a counterweight on B&M, and a spring on Vekoma for instance). The white pulley deviates the cable and sends it into the trench, back to the motor room. (Both pictures from this trip-report.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 ^Thanks for those pics. Interesting how I305's cable looks a bit thinner than I thought it would. It also appears to make a rather sharp angle on the white wheel so I wonder if that really would be an issue on the new ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinematics Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 It does have a big cylinder at the bottom of the drop: But a cable lift, just as everything that involve a cable (-> hydraulic launches), needs to form a closed loop in order to have a proper tension. In this picture you can see the return mechanism: The red pulley is on a rolling trolley and have a cylinder attached to it. This is what gives the tension to the cable. I don't know if it's dynamic or static, but on some coasters you can see it dampen whenever a train catches the lift (a chain lift needs tension as well, so you have similar mechanisms: Usually a counterweight on B&M, and a spring on Vekoma for instance). The white pulley deviates the cable and sends it into the trench, back to the motor room. (Both pictures from this trip-report.) Yea, I was thinking about it overnight and I remembered the penny pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 This is a park I would love to visit someday, but I highly doubt I'll ever get there unless I will the $800 million power ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 EEverything is almost ready for the opening of this amazing coaster!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The rumour about the name change doesn't seem to have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTPM Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 ^That's good, i quite like the name. Plus, that station facade looks beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Ferrari world have confirmed that there will be no name change in English. However they will have to adapt it a bit to make sense in Arabic. Bellow is a fact sheet they sent me. Factsheet for Flying Aces About Flying Aces • The first plane themed roller coaster, Flying Aces, is set to break two new world records; world’s tallest loop at 52 meters (170ft), and steepest incline starting hill lift (51 degree). • Flying Aces takes guests to speeds reaching 120kmph along a 1.5km track that mimics an actual bi-plane movement. • Transcending guests back to the 1900’s, Flying Aces is the first ride inspired by Ferrari’s rich history as its storyline is based on its legendary Prancing Horse emblem. • The architectural masterpiece offers extreme gravity defying flight acrobatics that include a non-inverted loop, down flips and plenty of airtime moments. • The roller coaster is the first of five major rides and attractions to be launched as part of Ferrari World Abu Dhabi’s three-year massive expansion embarked in 2014. • The ride can accommodate up to 28 guests at a time and lasts approximately 135 seconds. Construction and Design • This outstanding ride was designed and manufactured by Intamin Amusement Rides, the renowned creators of exceptional amusement rides, one of which is the world’s fastest rollercoaster, Formula Rossa. • The 63 meter high lift is supported by two columns only, which is considered a roller coaster breakthrough in terms of architecture and engineering. With this unique design, the top of the lift looks like a huge free hanging arch, which was made possible by the merged experiences and know-how of the ride manufacturing team and consultants. • More than 1.5 million man-hours went into construction of this masterpiece using innovative technologies and engineering methods. • The ride consists of 165 tracks and 200 columns (over 1,400 tons of steel). Theme and History • Flying Aces is inspired by Italy’s ‘ace of aces’ Count Francesco Baracca, a famous Italian aviator of the 1900’s who painted the Prancing Horse emblem, Cavallino logo, on his bi-plane during World War I. • Baracca’s mother was a big fan of Enzo Ferrari when he had begun his racing career, reporting many triumphs. She later asked Enzo to put her son’s logo on his car to bring him good luck, just like it did for her son. • The queue line includes a hangar building, barracks, warehouse and radio room, where guests enter to learn about Ferrari logo’s history and be briefed ahead of the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAngel94 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 • The roller coaster is the first of five major rides and attractions to be launched as part of Ferrari World Abu Dhabi’s three-year massive expansion embarked in 2014. 1 - flying aces 2 - boomerang coaster 3 - sfx coaster 4 - family dark ride 5 - ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 - ???? 500ft tall inverting Aquatrax Although joking aside they do seem to have a good relationship with Intamin.... Could they be the first park to get the dome ride theater from IAAPA last year or the ultra tower from this year? Both seen here: http://www.intaminworldwide.com/amusement/Simulators/tabid/110/language/de-DE/Default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The park have confirmed that there are indeed 5 new rides coming. They have not released any details of the 5th yet. I will be attending the press launches for all the rides so will keep you updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosscoe Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 DubaiDave, have you heard anything about the opening date. Plus I'm glad as well that they kept the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I asked them directly and they said no date yet. Will let everyone know as soon as I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelated85 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The first plane themed roller coaster, Flying Aces, is set to break two new world records; world’s tallest loop at 52 meters (170ft), and steepest incline starting hill lift (51 degree). These marketing teams and their superlatives... If they get paid well to do this, I'm switching careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Still can't work out the steepest incline thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaidave Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Still can't work out the steepest incline thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelated85 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 "Steepest Lift Hill on a Coaster Named Flying Aces" - Flying Aces, Ferrari World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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