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P.. 420: Pirates of Speelunker Cave announced for 2022!

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ShowMeGuy, the bolts do look pretty strange sticking up the way they do but I'm pretty sure the wheels will just run between them. There is a wide space down the center of the rail. Flying at full speed with those bolts sticking up will be a sight I'm sure. haha. Looking at the track they have placed on so far there is nothing to indicate that they can or will attach anything to it. I saying all the wear and tear will be designed for the wheels. Think of it like this.

 

Wooden coasters use steel on the wood because the steel wheels would ruin the wood. Really a wooden coaster is steel running on steel. They have to replace that steel over time. This new track system, unless they do add a layer of something to the top, will not allow the steel on steel set up because steel wheels would eventually wear down the track, meaning they can't just replace a strip of steel like on traditional wood coasters but they would replace the actual track segment entirely. That just isn't a practical way to do things. All this leads me to believe that they will have nylon or urithane on the wheels like you see on rides like El Toro, or Balder. Hopefully the wheels they get from Gerstlauer will outlast those of the Intamin variety that seem to live less than 48 hours *cough cough* Maverick.

 

In all fairness the plug n play coasters don't seem to have wheel issues I just really wanted to take a stab at Intamin's cruddy wheels. haha

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speaking of GCI and Gravity Group, how come it seems that Gravity group doesn't get much work, yet there coasters are considered some of the beast in the world?

Quantity does not always equal quality. Just look at what happend to CCI.

 

And oh, yeah, the word is "best" not "beast."

 

--Robb

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I like to think of Gravity Group as the wood coaster equivalent of Intamin. They put out rides that nobody else will attempt, and while they are amazing, I don't think they will have a longevity of a GCI. Like Rob said, it's about quality. I'm not saying anything against Gravity Group, but they are really pushing limits. I think their new trains will help with this a lot though. PTCs are just not built to keep a track in good shape on rides like Voyage and Hades. Ravine Flyer seems to be holding up incredibly well however. It ran last season as if it was opening day 2008. Very impressive.

 

I think PTC is going to have to wake up soon a realize that their trains have been surpassed. Designs on wood coasters have exceeded their trains capabilities. Prior and Church figured things out before PTC for goodness sakes with their single bench designs. They were who inspired GCI's Millennium Flyers.

 

To tie all that back in to the Giant, I'm nervous to see what Gerslauer has in store with their trains. They better be like nothing they have made in the past.

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To tie all that back in to the Giant, I'm nervous to see what Gerslauer has in store with their trains. They better be like nothing they have made in the past.

I will say that the Mammut trains were just fine. Very different from the box-shaped trains with the U-bars we've seen in the past. If indeed they are similar to Mammut's trains I'd say you have little to worry about.

 

Now if they are thinking about taking some old Megazeph or Twisted Sister trains and putting them on this, retro-fitted with different wheels, then that's a different story!

 

But the Mammut trains - they were great!

 

--Robb

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I'm so confused. I see very large bolt heads sticking up from the topsides of these red metal *tracks*. There has got to be something else getting placed on top of that big red rail.

 

Was the first thing I noticed too. I was thinking this new track would place wheels in the precise place, like tubular steel coasters do. Maybe it won't have any give from side-to-side as a wood track, the bolts seem to be on the outsides of the rail, so the wheel would roll inside them. Totally confused.

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Gee, I hadn't been paying close enough attention to this project... and didn't realize Gerstlauer trains were part of the deal. I'm still really, really psyched to see how this all turns out, but, boy, do I have some awful Villain memories...

 

But as others have said, thanks so much for keeping a close eye on the progress!

 

(Also, I wish to hell they'd rename this coaster to "The Iron Giant" and get Brad Bird on board with re-theme...)

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I apparently went to SFOT on saturday and took some photos too. Well, didn't want the photos to go to waste so I will post them anyway. Hope you guys like them. I will also take a lot of pics over the summer for you guys. Hope the ride gets on its way.

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Just a general overview of the lift hill

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Construction sign greatness

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Bottom of first turn and old and new stuff

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First turn looks like it will have some speed

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The old helix is almost completly gone

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Notice the bolts on the top of the track, so we know that this isn't the final track.

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The same old control panel

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Under the station

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The number 13, big bolts and spare parts! What more can you get?

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I miss the old sign

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Wonder what's under there...

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Old and New

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Anyone up there?

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New Structure... yum

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For you wooden switch track enthusiast

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They had some pictures of the original construction

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They're even pimping it out with a lowrider!

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rollercoaster2428,

 

If the wheels on the new trains are coated in a polyurethane material, then I think that this could very well be the final track. There is a nice and neat little slot of which the wheels could run through. Plus it wouldn't make any sense to prefab the track, install, and add material on top. As it is right now, the thickness of the lip appears to be the same dimensions as the wood track.tg.thumb.jpg.859b7079045fcb63d0a4f7e2f548fdec.jpg

Old track. You can see the "lip" on the inside of the rail.

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The "lip" on the new rail (the rail on the inside of the curve).

 

Just my two cents, but we won't know for sure.

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Well this weekend brought plenty of bad weather, and large crowds on Saturday, but Sunday was dead. On a good note Shockwave was up and running at last! Just a few pics for the Giant and the latest graphic to share with everyone. I wasn't able to get up the Oil Derrick this weekend with the weather but not much new to see from there anyways. Here we go!

 

Looking a bit sad today. The last bunny hill is trackless now, and they have removed more track from the first drop and more structure from the drop before the midcourse.

 

Pile of old track in the infield

 

The "helix" on the station side is on its way out

 

A look at the area. They have removed a substantial length of the track from the lift his week.

 

Here is the latest graphic update

well this graphic is actually wrong and it won't update on here for some reason.

DISCUSS!

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A whole week and no talking in here? Well, ready or not here is another update.

 

The entire lift and crown are trackless

 

No more track in the station,

 

or in the brake run as far as I could see

 

It's getting pretty ugly in here

 

The station side of the helix is nearly gone

 

Quite a bit of track is gone along these two turns. All

 

I took some time to go into the Music Mill as it was open for some music awards ceremony and grab this angle as well.

 

Now for the sad showing of the overall progress, I'd say maybe 50 to 60 percent of the track is gone.

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Theory points to the idea that the first turn after the first drop will be the overbank. I don't know where else they would put it, but you never know. With the ride being taller after this I can't help but wonder if they will be raising the block brake as well. I'm willing to bet we will see magnetic brakes used on the ride too, however hopefully not for trim purposes. I'm hoping this redo will let the trains run free as they did back in 1990.

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