RandallDuell Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 g0stars2552, would have been so much cooler if you didn't come back in here and boast about your inside scoop. Seems odd to dump a bunch of money into JRS - seems like they have an opportunity for an awesome signature ride in that area (should they just tear it out). Not many parks have the opportunity to showcase a ride, right at the entrance, like that.....technology and ride design has come quite a ways since that ride was put there, I think it'd be pretty exciting to build a signature ride right there...and have it interact with the water. I'm sure this has been a rough year for the folks that work at the park - here's to hoping 2014 brings good things. (and, yes, I realize it's been a tough year for the lady's family/friends as well....just saying that there surely is also an impact on the park/employee attitudes etc as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0stars2552 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Every amusement park has an "off" year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonR Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The reason why Mrs. Esparza died was because when she pulled the lap bar down, she did not place her back to the back of the seat but instead she was scooted up with a considerable gap between her back and the chair and the air time hill after the first drop became fatal. Even a person of a lot smaller size would have fallen out if they had been sitting like she did so weight was not a factor. When you ride a car don't you almost always put your back completely against the car seat? The local news report of the accident makes me cringe. I lost my sh"t when they said the restraints "clicked." I find it hard to believe a ride op would never notice if a person wasn't sitting back all the way, especially a person with the same proportions Esparza had and whose lap bar position was going to be a borderline pass/fail situation anyway. Anyway, I noticed the SFoT press release mentioned re-designed restraint pads from Gerstlauer. Did the Iron Rattler get new restraint pads as well? I thought they only added seat belts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 ABC world news tonight has a report about Texas gient on right now. Btw...they are using TPR footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linders Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 The reason why Mrs. Esparza died was because when she pulled the lap bar down, she did not place her back to the back of the seat but instead she was scooted up with a considerable gap between her back and the chair and the air time hill after the first drop became fatal. Even a person of a lot smaller size would have fallen out if they had been sitting like she did so weight was not a factor. When you ride a car don't you almost always put your back completely against the car seat? The local news report of the accident makes me cringe. I lost my sh"t when they said the restraints "clicked." I find it hard to believe a ride op would never notice if a person wasn't sitting back all the way, especially a person with the same proportions Esparza had and whose lap bar position was going to be a borderline pass/fail situation anyway. Anyway, I noticed the SFoT press release mentioned re-designed restraint pads from Gerstlauer. Did the Iron Rattler get new restraint pads as well? I thought they only added seat belts... I've been hearing it has been closed ever since Labor Day. Their website, FB, and Twitter accounts have no mention of the closure and are still promoting it for Fright Fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geauga Dog Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 ABC World News just did an update on the fatality. They were saying that the indicator on the train wasn't working properly. They did not say anything about her not sitting all the way back in the seat, which to me, should not even allow the bar to lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linders Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 One reason I like SFFT, is they will actually respond to you if you ask a question. I commented on one of their fb posts and asked them if IRAT will be open during FF and HIP, and they responding to me confirming that yes, it WILL be open for FF and the rest of the year! So, hope that clarifies things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBomer Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 2 months and 110 pages and we finally have an opening in sight. That was a crazy day and felt so surreal, still does. Whatever the modifications I'm just glad they're able to get it open before the season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Idiot God Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 1 Million? Either they have an incredibly bad Lawyer or there is more to this story than we are being told. I would think that SF's insurance company would pay that TODAY and walk away content. Something is not right here. They're banking on it getting settled out of court, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenA07 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 1 Million? Either they have an incredibly bad Lawyer or there is more to this story than we are being told. I would think that SF's insurance company would pay that TODAY and walk away content. Something is not right here. The damages are not that out of the question. It has been a while now since I've had to deal with damages in any meaningful way, however when a person dies you essentially need to figure out how much money that person is worth. A 92 year old man with terminal cancer who has been retired for 30 years and has no dependents is worth less money then a 30 year old engineer with a wife a 3 kids. It sounds cruel but there are formula's that go into deciding the value of a person. From what I understand those are the damages, I'm unclear if there are additional punitive requests coming. I'm a little surprised that Gerstlauer wasn't joined in the suit, curious to see if Six Flags drags them into the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 ^From what I gather, there was a faulty sensor on the exact seat the woman fell out of. Six Flags took the train out of use and supposedly fixed it. The repair was signed off on and put the train back in use. If this is really case, how could Gerstlauer really be held liable? Trains have sensor issues all of the time and unless the manufacturers are brought in to help with the fix, than it all lies on the park's maintenance team to make the fix. If I am reading all of this correctly, this all lies on Six Flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonR Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 ^From what I gather, there was a faulty sensor on the exact seat the woman fell out of. Six Flags took the train out of use and supposedly fixed it. The repair was signed off on and put the train back in use. If this is really case, how could Gerstlauer really be held liable? Trains have sensor issues all of the time and unless the manufacturers are brought in to help with the fix, than it all lies on the park's maintenance team to make the fix. If I am reading all of this correctly, this all lies on Six Flags. Depends on why the sensors were failing. If they're failing because of typical sensor failures, then yeah sure, blame lies with the park. But if the sensor keeps failing due to a design issue with the train (unlikely but possible), then the train manufacturer could be liable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 According to the lawsuit, a limit switch was replaced in the car she was riding in, the lawsuit, from how I read, does not say 'the' seat, it just says "in 'a' seat in 'the' very car". A limit switch can have varying degrees of failure and could have been out of tolerance and not a complete failure. In regards to the 1 million, the plaintiff's have requested and paid for a jury trail. The jury will set the monetary damages which are to be in excess of 1 million dollars. Paperwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0stars2552 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 About to head to the park! come say hi. I'm wearing a bright light green Dallas Stars shirt, tan cargo shorts, and black tennis shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntag2ndturn Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Well someone please post some pictures ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis97 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 This is the test chair. Didn't get any pictures of the coaster running, but it is still an amazing ride experience. The process of checking restraints in the station is a lot longer, as you might imagine, but it is worth the wait Test Chair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Anyone notice the different restraint pads? What exactly did they change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis97 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 The pad is made to kind of fit around your legs better and they added seat belts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 ^Awesome! Im always afraid when parks modify restraints, especially after the disaster restrain modifications that Superman Ride of Steel received when it became bizarro that essentially ruin the ride and kill my enjoyment of any airtime.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Here are some pictures from the Coaster Crew. They don't look so bad honestly. I think it's great news that it's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntag2ndturn Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Sweet! Black trains back on. Interesting that they put shin restraints on. Thank you for update^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0stars2552 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 In line for the 3rd time. I was the in the front row for the 4th train sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Sweet! Black trains back on. Interesting that they put shin restraints on. Thank you for update^ They always had the shin restraints on front row of each car on the train. Glad to hear the ride is open and that its still a great ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntag2ndturn Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Sweet! Black trains back on. Interesting that they put shin restraints on. Thank you for update^ They always had the shin restraints on front row of each car on the train. Glad to hear the ride is open and that its still a great ride. Huh. Guess I never noticed. Do they new restraint pads make it more or less comfortable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linders Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 So, what is the wait time like 1/2 hour, 1 hour, 1 1/2, 2 hours? Hubby and I were thinking about running up there at the end of the day to catch a ride on it. Is the park pretty busy today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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