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I don't want to talk about roller coaster safety. I am planning on coming to the park on Sunday at opening. If I ride all open roller coasters 1 time what time can I get out of there by. I might also get a regular flash pass. I am shooting for 2 because I want to get up to Frontier City and ride their coasters before they close at 8. Any educated guesses on possibilities.

Coasters that are not on Flash Pass: Judge, Mine Trains, Kiddie. Not sure how important all those "credits" are to you, but I'd probably get in the park right at opening, get those "credits" if you need them, and then head over to the Flash Pass office. The Flash Pass is good on all the other coasters in the park. (Note: It's also not good on Texas Sky Screamer, so if that's important to you, get to that as well)

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"unfortunately"   Seriously. . WTF is wrong with you ??

Nitro’s description says that too. Six Flags is just dumb.

I don’t entirely understand why this is getting so much publicity and so many questions surrounding it as if there aren’t 15 other states with no mask mandates including many states that have Six Flag

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Sure, and of course while you are right it can be dangerous and we know the risk, the risk is like .0001% assuming you don't do anything wrong.

I am MUCH more likely to die driving to SFMM than on any ride there

Anyway the stupidity annoyed me but I'm sure in another day the news will be dead and the power freaks that need to run everything will have to wait for the next tragedy on a ride to have their way!

 

Going down into LA from SFMM is always the scariest ride of the day for me, a lot of people just seem to zoom down the tjon pass or whatever it's called like its nothing.

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Roller coaster deaths per year on average, including people with pre-existing conditions or situations where it was the rider's fault:

 

3

 

Deaths from car accidents in 2010 according to WHO:

 

1.24 million.

 

115 people die per day in the US alone from car accidents...

 

This is the overreaction of the century!

 

Yes that's what's killing me. When Robb went on HLN they said there were 450 deaths a year that occurred when someone got out of bed so that's at least one person per day.

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Yes I will be a single rider. I usually can get everything quickly since I am on my own. I usually sneak up a few trains by partnering up with an odd group. My record was skipping about 10 trains on Outlaw Run by getting in a 3-some in the front row. I know I can probably hit at least half the coasters in the first hour. It is after that I am worried. Is La Vibora a low capacity ride? What are the lowest capacity rides at the park? If I am not almost finished by noon I'll run over and get the flash pass. If by miracle they open the 2 closed coasters I will get the flash pass too.

 

 

Robb, if you are still reading this thread, thanks for all the help. These boards have been a huge help over the last year.

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Roller coaster deaths per year on average, including people with pre-existing conditions or situations where it was the rider's fault:

 

3

 

Deaths from car accidents in 2010 according to WHO:

 

1.24 million.

 

115 people die per day in the US alone from car accidents...

 

This is the overreaction of the century!

 

Yes that's what's killing me. When Robb went on HLN they said there were 450 deaths a year that occurred when someone got out of bed so that's at least one person per day.

 

How about the 550 deaths when shopping on Black Friday!

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Roller coaster deaths per year on average, including people with pre-existing conditions or situations where it was the rider's fault:

 

3

 

Deaths from car accidents in 2010 according to WHO:

 

1.24 million.

 

115 people die per day in the US alone from car accidents...

 

This is the overreaction of the century!

Exactly! Do they not realize that since it opened in 2011, there have been no incidents until the death? That's millions of people sitting in the trains with just a lap bar and surviving the ride just fine. And before this, when was the last time someone died on a roller coaster? Millions and millions of people ride roller coasters everyday, and nothing happens to them. Crazy how we overreact in the US.

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Where is Markey now? Article

 

OZARK, Arkansas - A 68-year-old Vietnam veteran from Michigan, who was traveling to Okemah to see his father's grave, had his journey cut short this week.

Charles Peters loaded up his belongings in a green covered wagon pulled by two mules. He left his home in Michigan on May 1, hoping to thank veterans along the way.

 

On July 24, Peters' wagon was hit by a truck on U.S. Highway 64 near Ozark, Arkansas. The truck rolled over, killing the two mules and injuring Peters.

 

"I could see the wheels, and it looked like the truck was on top of the caravan," said Sherry Rodgers, who saw the aftermath of the crash. "I could not see the [mules] because the embankment was really far in a ditch and it had just rained the night before and the [mules] were trapped in the ditch."

 

The crash sent Peters to the hospital with two broken ribs.

 

Word of the crash spread quickly in Ozark, with people coming forward offering to help Peters get back on the road with new mules.

 

He has declined their offer, he told KFSM TV, the CBS affiliate in Fort Smith.

 

"I wouldn't give this trip up for anything," Peters said. "If people ask me what it would take for me to quit, I just say I don't understand the question. I won't quit."

 

Peters wants to thank his dad for his service during World War II.

 

"I want to stand next to his grave and just say ‘Thank you Pop'," Peters said.

 

He plans to return to Michigan, train two new mules and get back on the road to Okemah next spring.

 

2 mules were killed, TWO! This is an outrage! Of course once the media gets finsihed with the it the mules will be donkeys, the wagon wasn't green, it was red, it wasn't highway 64, it was highway 69, and it wasn't his father, it was his grandfather

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I like how both videos are on the website, which contradict each other on when the accident happened. The only things on the video that are the same are park, ride (yay correct information), the 3 click thingy, and the "fact" the lap bar failed...I love tomonews!!

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I don't want to talk about roller coaster safety. I am planning on coming to the park on Sunday at opening. If I ride all open roller coasters 1 time what time can I get out of there by. I might also get a regular flash pass. I am shooting for 2 because I want to get up to Frontier City and ride their coasters before they close at 8. Any educated guesses on possibilities.

 

As for Batman, if you have already been to SFFT and/or SFOG, and rode Goliath (at SFFT) or Batman (SFOG), then you already have that notch in your belt. Our experience with Batman at SFOT is that the line is mind-numbingly slow. I don't know what it is they are or aren't doing up there that takes the loading/unloading process soooo loooong, but we won't ride it unless the line is at the staircase inside the station. We were pleasantly surprised to see SFFT kick some arse on Goliath. Even running one train, they managed to get things moving quicker than SFOT on 2 trains. And there isn't much in the way of a/c or ventilation in the line ques, which makes it stifling. Especially on a humid day, which is the majority of the time out here. At least with Freeze, the building is air conditioned all the way through till you board and coming off, and the line moves pretty good when they have both trains running.

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I am thinking of coming into the park and going in a circle to the right at this point. I really don't need another Batman credit but if there is no line I would take it. It seems most non-flash pass lines are to the right of the entrance. I hope being Sunday most people should be at church most of the morning. It is the "Bible Belt" isn't it?

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^^ That's where we'll be! We go at the end of the evening on Sundays because of the crowd that has to leave early over it being a work night. It has worked out in our favor so far.

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Sorry if this has already posted before but I found another NTAG video from the guys who brought you that other terrible video

http://www.tomonews.net/2013/07/20/106981/

This one is even worse! So many wrongful things, the click, her falling out on the drop...ugh

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Six Flags sues several of these media outlets for slander. The information is clearly wrong and is harming their reputation while making one of their prominent coasters look unsafe to the point of negligence on Six Flag's part for ever opening it.

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^^ That's where we'll be! We go at the end of the evening on Sundays because of the crowd that has to leave early over it being a work night. It has worked out in our favor so far.

That's my favorite time to go! Sundays for sure.

 

I'm so sad, I have a season pass and I haven't been to the park since January. ): !!!

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Sorry if this has already posted before but I found another NTAG video from the guys who brought you that other terrible video

http://www.tomonews.net/2013/07/20/106981/

This one is even worse! So many wrongful things, the click, her falling out on the drop...ugh

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Six Flags sues several of these media outlets for slander. The information is clearly wrong and is harming their reputation while making one of their prominent coasters look unsafe to the point of negligence on Six Flag's part for ever opening it.

They've made videos about companies and incidents much bigger than Six Flags. Which just goes to show you that you can pretty much do and say whatever you want on the internet and it really doesn't matter. It's the interent.

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Sorry if this has already posted before but I found another NTAG video from the guys who brought you that other terrible video

http://www.tomonews.net/2013/07/20/106981/

This one is even worse! So many wrongful things, the click, her falling out on the drop...ugh

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Six Flags sues several of these media outlets for slander. The information is clearly wrong and is harming their reputation while making one of their prominent coasters look unsafe to the point of negligence on Six Flag's part for ever opening it.

They've made videos about companies and incidents much bigger than Six Flags. Which just goes to show you that you can pretty much do and say whatever you want on the internet and it really doesn't matter. It's the interent.

 

"If it's on the internet then in must be true".....

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^^ That's where we'll be! We go at the end of the evening on Sundays because of the crowd that has to leave early over it being a work night. It has worked out in our favor so far.

That's my favorite time to go! Sundays for sure.

 

I'm so sad, I have a season pass and I haven't been to the park since January. ): !!!

 

The last several times I have gone to SF has been in after 5pm. I love pulling in to crowds of people walking to their cars and not having the heat bearing down me. It's rather nice, and then riding the coasters as night is even bigger treat!

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Interesting listen (go to about 15:30 in) to some "general public" talk about the accident on Chicago's 670 The Score (sports talk) station. As with most sports shows, Boers and Bernstein tend to spray to all fields (incl those beyond sports).

 

http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/d3/dB/dE/dK/13BEK_3.MP3?authtok=5562150826724095553_L1JF7zyrwlRgmdXJmB6oUxWWq3c

(again, go to about 15:30)

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I don't want to talk about roller coaster safety. I am planning on coming to the park on Sunday at opening. If I ride all open roller coasters 1 time what time can I get out of there by. I might also get a regular flash pass. I am shooting for 2 because I want to get up to Frontier City and ride their coasters before they close at 8. Any educated guesses on possibilities.

 

As for Batman, if you have already been to SFFT and/or SFOG, and rode Goliath (at SFFT) or Batman (SFOG), then you already have that notch in your belt. Our experience with Batman at SFOT is that the line is mind-numbingly slow. I don't know what it is they are or aren't doing up there that takes the loading/unloading process soooo loooong, but we won't ride it unless the line is at the staircase inside the station. We were pleasantly surprised to see SFFT kick some arse on Goliath. Even running one train, they managed to get things moving quicker than SFOT on 2 trains. And there isn't much in the way of a/c or ventilation in the line ques, which makes it stifling. Especially on a humid day, which is the majority of the time out here. At least with Freeze, the building is air conditioned all the way through till you board and coming off, and the line moves pretty good when they have both trains running.

 

Here is the deal on Batman, the first is they only operate it with 3 people, 1 panel, 2 load, then combine stupid people who want to take their shoes off, well, that was fine 2 years ago but now they have a policy that shoes must travel. No one listens, so, as the two loaders are wondering back through the train as they catch someone without shoes, its unlock 2 rows, get the shoes, recheck two rows, move back, repeat. 4:30 dispatches are the norm. Add two more loaders, or even one more and get better throughput. But they are budget friendly these days so you won't see it.

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^ And I have seen that first hand. Sigh.. Something I noticed is SFFT doesn't care if you are barefoot or not on that ride. There are flip flops all over the place on the platform for that ride and Superman Krypton Coaster. I have seen riders hand their shoes to the platform attendant from their seats! Batman just isn't worth the long wait in the heat to me. It's a cool ride and all, but I liken its line worthiness to Runaway Mountain. It's an alright ride and all, but not worth more than a 20-30 min wait, especially when it is 100 degrees outside. At least Runaway Mountain is air conditioned once you get in. I won't get in line for that one until it is in the door. By that point it isn't a long wait.

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This is one section before the station on Batman that has it's a/c working, but the station area, nada, and hasn't been for a while. It's all about how cheaply they can get away with staffing at SFOT, not saying they cut ride maintenance budgets so as not to get confused, but operations seems to cut and snip and do the bare minimum to ensure the lines stay nice and long.

 

Just think, maybe if people didn't have to spend so long in line they might buy something or play a game, wow, what a concept!

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^The thing is, the longer the line, the more flash passes are going to sell.

 

From a consumer standpoint, it's crap. But from a business standpoint it's pure genius! I would agree with what you said, but if you were to present the idea to a CEO of the corporation or a manager, it wouldn't sound like english to them.

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