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Somebody mentioned prior that there should be a light board showing that each seat restraint is locked. Is there in fact a light board like that for this particular ride? Just curious.

 

Behind the first row of each car is four green lights that turn on when the corresponding restraint is closed enough. For many of my rides the ride op behind the panel made the workers recheck certain cars restraints for whatever reason. I would have a very hard time believing that a train could leave the station with a restraint not closed down far enough, they were very adamant in making sure every restraint was closed as far as it could go.

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Nitro’s description says that too. Six Flags is just dumb.

Wow, Six Flags. All of those things are really great.   We really are living in a fantasy world...

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Irrespective of causes and media coverage, a traumatizing event for her family/friends and some of those around the coaster/park at the time. I can not begin to imagine what they're all going through, I hope they get the support and help they need

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I know some coasters won't even let it dispatch if the restraints show as not closed without some sort of override. I don't know exactly how Rocky Mountain has this setup though.

 

Rocky Mountain does not make ride control systems. The park chose and programmed the ride control system.

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I know some coasters won't even let it dispatch if the restraints show as not closed without some sort of override. I don't know exactly how Rocky Mountain has this setup though.

 

That would depend on their control system. The original S:TE & Xcelerator (maybe all older Intamins?) used to be able to be dispatched with lapbars up. The State made the parks modify the rides so this was no longer the case.

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Somebody mentioned prior that there should be a light board showing that each seat restraint is locked. Is there in fact a light board like that for this particular ride? Just curious.

 

Behind the first row of each car is four green lights that turn on when the corresponding restraint is closed enough. For many of my rides the ride op behind the panel made the workers recheck certain cars restraints for whatever reason. I would have a very hard time believing that a train could leave the station with a restraint not closed down far enough, they were very adamant in making sure every restraint was closed as far as it could go.

 

On Montu, we have a light for each restraint behind the row and in the panel. Even if the seat belt is secured, the restraint may not have clicked the full three times, and the light will not turn on. If a light is not on, we cannot send the train out of the station. So if NTAG's system is the same, then her restraint was secure enough for the computer system to allow the train to leave the station.

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I've done some clean-up and removed all the posts that really had nothing to do with the accident, were purely speculation, and were just creating pointless heated debate.

 

I will encourage everyone to try to stay civil (myself included), and perhaps we should let the discussion simmer a bit until there are more details released, which I would have to imagine would be pretty soon.

 

Have we seen any other real news articles about the accident? Any more details about the woman? Any police reports, etc?

 

I think I'd rather us all focus on REAL reports rather than argue amongst ourselves and create a destructive atmosphere.

 

Agreed? Cool.

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Victim ID'd

 

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WFAA

 

ARLINGTON — Witnesses said they watched in horror as a woman fell from her seat on the Texas Giant roller coaster Friday night at Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington.

 

The theme park on Saturday said it is "committed to determining the cause of this tragic accident."

"It would be a disservice to the family to speculate regarding what transpired,"said Six Flags spokeswoman Sharon Parker in a written statement issued at noon Saturday. "When we have new information to provide, we will do so."

 

Family members identified the victim as Rosy Esparza.

 

The accident happened at about 6:45 p.m. as Carmen Brown was next in line to ride the coaster. Brown said the woman got on the ride with her son.

 

"She goes up like this," Brown said raising her hand up in the air. "Then when it drops to come down that's when it released and she just tumbled ... and I said, 'That could have been me, because I don't do roller coasters.'"

Also in line was the Putman family, of Rockwall. Darlene, John and their daughters Ashley and Haley Putman stood behind Esparza and her family for an hour.

 

"They were laughing and talking," John said, adding that Esparza appeared to be in her 50s. The family didn't witness the fall, but said the victim's son was clearly distraught when the ride returned to the loading platform.

"He was saying 'She fell! she fell!'" Mrs. Putman recalled.

 

The Putmans said he tried to race onto the tracks, but workers escorted him away.

 

Six Flags immediately closed the ride and the surrounding area while most of the theme park remained open.

Officials at Six Flags did not reveal details about Esparza's death, but released an official statement not long after the incident:

 

We are deeply saddened to share that earlier this evening an adult woman died in the park while on the Texas Giant. Park medical staff and local paramedics responded immediately. Since the safety of our guests and employees is our number one priority, the ride has been closed pending further investigation. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends during this difficult time.

Early Saturday, Six Flags added that the investigation into the death was continuing. "We are working closely with authorities to determine the cause of the accident," spokeswoman Shannon Parker said in a written statement.

 

She added that the Texas Giant ride remains closed and that the Bridgit Mendler concert scheduled for Saturday night has been canceled.

Originally an all-wooden roller coaster introduced to the park in 1990, the Texas Giant ride was redesigned with a steel track and re-opened in April of 2011 during the theme park's 50th anniversary. The ride's tallest height is 153 feet and has a drop of 147 feet.

Six Flags says the ride has "a record-breaking bank" of 95 degrees, "steeper than any wooden coaster on the planet."

 

Arlington police are investigating whether the woman suffered a medical emergency before the fall.

 

In 1999, a 28-year-old Arkansas woman drowned and 10 other passengers were injured when a raft-like boat on the Roaring Rapids ride at Six Flags overturned in 2 to 3 feet of water about 200 feet from the end of the ride.

Six Flags Over Texas opened in 1961 as the first amusement park in the Six Flags system. It is 17 miles west of downtown Dallas.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

E-mail twoodard@wfaa.com

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Although accidents are totally unrelated, in its first season, Stampida (PortAventura) ALSO killed a larger rider... (the first drop trim was added just after). I do not remember which party was held responsible back then but I DO remember there was no mechanical failure. I'm deeply saddenned for the family and witnesses. A WHOLE LOT MORE than by upcoming missed crédits. (Doing TPR Texas Midwest)

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This is why overweight people need to be checked at the entrance or just not be able to ride.

 

Wow.

 

So do you weigh them? Put a tape measure around their waist? Ask them how heavy they are?

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^I absolutely get your point, Chad. BUT... in this case, it would have been the lesser of two evils. And to play the devil's advocate... is there a real difference between weighing and measuring their height ? I know it sounds politically incorrect, but still... if weight and built influence ridership as much as height... why not ? They DO weigh you for Bungee Jumping, for instance

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This is why overweight people need to be checked at the entrance or just not be able to ride.

The thing is that there are no weight restrictions on coasters, just accommodations regarding the restraints. Certain coasters you must be able to fasten the seat belt or the restraint must come down to a certain point...having worked at a park for the past 4 years, I can say people are shaped differently. Some people you wouldn't think are that large can't fit into certain rides, whereas some people you see who you think have no chance to fit will just secure themselves into seats with no problem. I'd imagine since Texas Giant has some pretty extreme negatives, that the restraint must have barely made the lights come on and the problem is that negative g's affect heavier people much greater; who's to say her weight didn't just thrust her legs right through the lap bar? You never know. Still waiting for more info.

 

Also just searched 'Texas Giant' on twitter...some of those tweets are making me lose faith in humanity..

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It's been less than one day and her photo already says "Rest in Peace"? The first photo to be publicly made of her? I don't know if her children or family members would have already edited a photo when they just announced her name the day after her death.

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This is why overweight people need to be checked at the entrance or just not be able to ride.

 

Wow.

 

So do you weigh them? Put a tape measure around their waist? Ask them how heavy they are?

 

I agree that riders that seem too big to ride should be pulled aside. Many coasters have test seats, but I have yet to see one used. Isn't the point of one to see if a rider will fit? It may seem mean, or rude, or whatever, but it is better then having someone lose their life over it. I haven't been to SFoT since NTAG has been refurbed, but does it have a test seat, and/or is there an operator at the entrance measuring guests (height wise)?

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This is why overweight people need to be checked at the entrance or just not be able to ride.

Here's the reality of the situation - it has much less to do with weight or volume, and a LOT more to do with shape and size.

 

As someone who has had to "shove" many people into rides on some of our trips, I can tell you that I've managed to get MANY OMFG HUGE ASS people onto coasters due to their shape with no problem or safety issues, whereas I've had trouble getting a slightly smaller person, but oddly-shaped into the same ride.

 

Just recently, we had two people who I would NOT consider "large" at all, not fit into Hollywood Dream in Japan, purely because of "shape".

 

So you could potentially have a weight restriction on a ride, and that still wouldn't matter as you could have someone top-heavy enough to fall out.

 

I'm not sure what the answer is, in this case, but I'd have to think there must be some way to measure if a rider isn't the right "shape" to fit a restraint, right?

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Measuring guests for height, not weight! I know Montu is OTSR restraints, but if the computer system says the restraint is locked, then they are clear to ride, no matter what weight they are. It's unfortunate that she fell out and the investigation will determine exactly what caused the accident. However, we cannot just tell a person they cannot ride because they are too large when they can be safely locked into the seat.

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I just saw this on British news... I heard a woman has died after falling off a roller coaster then looked up at the TV to see Texas Giant. I was deeply saddened/shocked. My thoughts go out to this woman's family & friends as well as well as to the park employees, I can't imagine how it must have felt nor to see a rider return safely.

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This is why overweight people need to be checked at the entrance or just not be able to ride.

Here's the reality of the situation - it has much less to do with weight or volume, and a LOT more to do with shape and size.

 

As someone who has had to "shove" many people into rides on some of our trips, I can tell you that I've managed to get MANY OMFG HUGE A$$ people onto coasters due to their shape with no problem or safety issues, whereas I've had trouble getting a slightly smaller person, but oddly-shaped into the same ride.

 

Just recently, we had two people who I would NOT consider "large" at all, not fit into Hollywood Dream in Japan, purely because of "shape".

 

So you could potentially have a weight restriction on a ride, and that still wouldn't matter as you could have someone top-heavy enough to fall out.

 

I'm not sure what the answer is, in this case, but I'd have to think there must be some way to measure if a rider isn't the right "shape" to fit a restraint, right?

 

Totally reminding me the debates when Shambhala opened end seemed to refuse riders who were not "that large" indeed

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