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"unfortunately"   Seriously. . WTF is wrong with you ??

They aren't changing anything.  Same goes for Fiesta Texas. https://www.sixflags.com/overtexas/plan-your-visit/safety-protocols  

I don’t entirely understand why this is getting so much publicity and so many questions surrounding it as if there aren’t 15 other states with no mask mandates including many states that have Six Flag

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Seriously this is the worst news to wake up to! That poor kid riding with his mother! This makes me want to cry. It really doesn't matter who or what was at fault (although it should still be addressed) a child just watched his mother die and that is heart breaking!

 

This, along with the rest of the riders on that train. Prayers go out to all involved. That had to be a horrible feeling seeing it all unfold knowing you can't help......

 

That also had to be awful for the people in the station when the train came back and everyone realized what just happened......

 

Who is siting next to her during the ride? Her child?

 

I believe they said the child was in the seat in front of her.

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Prayers go out to everyone involved or who saw it happen.

 

-Robb i cant get over how these reports claim the lap bar didnt click. I know for a fact (as does everyone here) the only clicking with hydraulic locking systems is you buckling the seatbelt. Does it have a seat belt too or just the lap bar?

 

Again thoughts out to those involved

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On some coasters now they don't have seat belts, just the lap bars, not many, but some, like the B&M hypers and gigas, and Gerstlauer trains only use lap bars. Maybe now all coasters will require a seatbelt and lap bar or OTSRs.

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This report that Robb shared on the TPR FB has an eyewitness stating " when the train came back, the seat restraint was down."

I rode NTAG in the summer of '12 and I stapled myself to the seat. The operator tightened my restraint but I gave it that extra push myself.

 

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved. In my 8 1/2 years of being a ride operator I've witnessed my fair share of "incidents" but never anything fatal. This accident stresses the pertinent role that operators play in the safety of the guests riding their attractions.

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At this point I wouldn't speculate ANYTHING or believe any eyewitness until a more official report comes out. I mean, eyewitness are SWEARING that the restraints make a "clicking" sound and we know that's all completely absurd.

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Wow...haven't been on for a bit, but definitely some distressing news in the theme park industry as of late. So sorry to hear about these tragic accidents - it will be interesting to hear more once the investigations are complete.

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That also had to be awful for the people in the station when the train came back and everyone realized what just happened......

 

The situation in the station had to be surreal especially for the probably teenagers running the ride. I would assume after they realized what happened they would have to get everybody out of the train they were loading to get the previous train in the station ASAP to get those people off which certainly would have had confused people... or even worse they send the next train off before they realized what happened on the last one.

 

If those were teenagers running the ride, they are likely going to need some counseling regardless of if they are at fault or not along with probably just about anybody on that train. Sad situation but I would expect six flags is doing everything they can to help.

 

Hopefully they will be able to quickly determine the cause and make whatever adjustments are needed. I expect we may see seat belts required on all rides wether completely needed or not as an extra percaution and if she was overweight possibly a policy change on larger passengers. I'm not implying either was the cause or could have prevented it, but policy changes made after something goes wrong doesn't have to be related to the cause and seat belts in paticular I see being done just to make the general public feel better. We'll see though. I'm interested to see what they determine to be the cause.

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Nice,now the NY Post now is spreading it didnt "click" more than one time. I dont think we will get a realiable source until the investigation is over and reported.

 

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/national/texas_mother_front_didn_feel_safe_nXvuJlXLQx2n4nH2dnO71N

 

Media these days rarely does their own reporting but takes things mentioned elsewhere and repeats them.

 

You are right they we likely won't know much until the report comes out. I am sure all Six Flags employees are under orders by corporate and possibly the police too not to talk to anybody and at this point I doubt any passengers want to talk either - most probably just want to forget and they may have been told by police not to talk too so they can control the information and try to stop rumors like this clicking thing from getting out.

 

I don't think anybody is going to be talking under the investigation is done. Doesn't really help anybody involved.

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Nice,now the NY Post now is spreading it didnt "click" more than one time. I dont think we will get a realiable source until the investigation is over and reported.

 

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/national/texas_mother_front_didn_feel_safe_nXvuJlXLQx2n4nH2dnO71N

 

One thing to consider is that with most media sources, the reporter is no more informed than the GP. Just because someone works or reports for a newspaper, doesn't make them any more informed about a subject they originally knew nothing about. I've learned many times, that nothing reported can be viewed as 100% true. From what I have heard, this was a larger woman, and if true, I have a good idea what happened as many on here probably do. However we can not comment until we know all the facts.

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Just read this:

 

"A family who was in line behind the woman that fell said she was riding with her daughter and son-in-law. The family said her seat restraint seemed to go down normally before the car left. They said when the train came back, the seat restraint was down."

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^^Oh i agree with you both that NYP probably just "copied" a report just so they have one. Im just mad they spread lies (yes they do this all the time so i dont know why its shocking) And people that where there who got interviewed just said random stuff and lied either for the news stations pleasing or for their own. I think thats the sickest part of all this, other than the fact she passed away

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Just read this:

 

"A family who was in line behind the woman that fell said she was riding with her daughter and son-in-law. The family said her seat restraint seemed to go down normally before the car left. They said when the train came back, the seat restraint was down."

 

Other sources claimed it was a child? I guess that could mean an older married person, but it kinda threw me off in that regard as I thought they meant child as in little kid......

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The restraint being down when the train came back doesn't necessarily mean it was down the whole ride. If the guy on the train who tweeted he saw the restraint pop up before she fell out is correct, then it's entirely possible the lapbar just went back down and relocked during the rest of the ride.

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The restraint being down when the train came back doesn't necessarily mean it was down the whole ride. If the guy on the train who tweeted he saw the restraint pop up before she fell out is correct, then it's entirely possible the lapbar just went back down and relocked during the rest of the ride.

 

Wasn't he like 2 rows back? Would he have actually been able to see it and if so how did he know to look? I am calling BS on his tweets.

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Having a lap bar only restraint meet your "gut" before your thighs is exactly how these accidents happen. How could you think you're secured by a LAP BAR if it is meeting at your stomach? If an obese person were to tuck their fat into the restraint once you experience negative G's or a shift in position, that fat will likely lift, leaving a sizeable gap between body and restraint.

 

At Cedar Point the other day a large woman needed the effort of two ops to get the restraint closed and bucked on Raptor. She sat directly in front of me and it didn't even look like her buttocks was in the seat properly. I don't understand why they even allow it. If you can't secure your restraint yourself, you shouldn't be able to ride.

 

That said, I am not implying this woman was obese and above scenario is what happened here. Only the investigation will determine the cause of this accident.

 

Oh and Carmen Brown...any relation to Sweet Brown?

 

This is particularly true on a "double down". The fat is released and now riding on top of the bar after the first hill leaving a huge gap just in time for the next hill, leaving no time for the rider to attempt to adjust their harness or body.

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Not that this should come as any surprise, but SFOT has announced the ride will remain closed while they do their investigation:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20130719-texas-giant-to-remain-closed-as-six-flags-investigates-woman-s-fall-from-roller-coaster.ece

 

Six Flags Over Texas announced Saturday morning that the Texas Giant roller coaster will remain closed as authorities investigate a woman's fatal plunge from the Texas Giant roller coaster Friday night.

 

The Arlington amusement park still has released few details beyond reporting that its medical staff and city paramedics had responded immediately. The victim’s name was not released.

 

Besides keeping the ride closed, Six Flags has canceled a concert by singer and actress Bridgit Mendler that had been scheduled for Saturday night.

 

Park officials offered their condolences to the woman’s family as investigators began to study the cause of the accident, which occurred after 6:30 p.m. Although the ride was closed, the park remained open through the evening.

 

Early attention was beginning to focus on witnesses’ reports that the woman’s safety restraint may have come undone.

 

Carmen Brown of Arlington was waiting in line as the victim was being secured in for the ride. She said she believed that the woman’s son was on the ride with her.

 

Brown said the woman had expressed concern to a park employee that she was not secured correctly in her seat.

 

“He was basically nonchalant,” Brown said. “He was, like, ‘As long as you heard it click, you’re fine.’ Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn’t feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride.”

 

She said the victim fell out of the ride as it made a sudden maneuver.

 

“The lady basically tumbled over,” she said. “We heard her screaming. We were, like, ‘Did she just fall?’”

 

Investigators were interviewing witnesses on the ride, some of whom reported that the woman had been thrown from the roller coaster as it rounded a turn. Arlington police declined to comment on the accident.

 

Hysterical passengers had to wait to disembark as the train stopped short of the platform.

 

John and Darlene Putman of Rockwall said they were in line to board the roller coaster as the train in which the woman had been riding returned.

 

John Putman told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that he heard two people screaming, “‘My mom! My mom! Let us out, we need to go get her!’”

 

Reports from park visitors began spreading rapidly on social media online, drawing worried parents and others to the gates to check on family members.

 

Joshua Paul Fleak posted on Twitter that he believed that the woman’s restraint had come undone.

 

“Just witnessed someone fly off of the Texas giant two seats in front of me,” he said. “… Coaster turned and she was gone.”

 

The Texas Giant opened in 1990 as the world’s tallest wooden roller coaster but was closed in November 2009 to convert it to a steel-and-wood hybrid.

 

Although the rebuilt ride incorporates some of the original structure, it includes 4,700 feet of new track.

 

When it reopened in April 2011, the expanded coaster offered a smoother ride and a higher top speed of 65 mph. It features a 79-degree drop and three turns sharper than 90 degrees.

 

Friday’s accident was the second ride fatality for a guest at the park since it opened in 1961.

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The restraint being down when the train came back doesn't necessarily mean it was down the whole ride. If the guy on the train who tweeted he saw the restraint pop up before she fell out is correct, then it's entirely possible the lapbar just went back down and relocked during the rest of the ride.

 

Wasn't he like 2 rows back? Would he have actually been able to see it and if so how did he know to look? I am calling BS on his tweets.

The fact that he called it a "restraint" and the fact that he actually sounded like a somewhat intelligent human being gives me a little faith in his story. Much more faith than the click lady. Just because he was two rows back doesn't mean he wouldn't or couldn't have seen exactly what happened.

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