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Yes, NTAG's restraints are hydraulic, they don't click when lowered into place. To me, they feel very smooth when you push them down. But they also feel quite heavy, it's possible that some guests (especially children) might have difficulty in pushing them all the way down. Which is why ride ops must check each restraint carefully to make sure each guest is firmly secured in their seat.

 

But we'll have to wait until the investigation is concluded and the actual cause of this tragedy is known before we can speculate further.

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Nitro’s description says that too. Six Flags is just dumb.

Wow, Six Flags. All of those things are really great.   We really are living in a fantasy world...

Looks like Aquaman has been delayed until 2022...... 

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Wow. This is a horrific day for the theme park industry. In a matter of hours we have likely lost two rides for the rest of the season. And both of these rides are newer. Texas Giant reopened in 20011 and STR just new in 2010. I'm especially interested to find out what exactly happened in Texas tonight. From what I read in this article, an employee failed to ensure that the restraint was fully in place.

 

P.S. The amount of people on this topic right now is insane.

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Wow. This is a horrific day for the theme park industry. In a matter of hours we have likely lost two rides for the rest of the season. And both of these rides are newer. Texas Giant reopened in 20011 and STR just new in 2010. I'm especially interested to find out what exactly happened in Texas tonight. From what I read in this article, an employee failed to ensure that the restraint was fully in place.

 

P.S. The amount of people on this topic right now is insane.

Like we've been discussing in this thread (if you read it), many of us think this report could be bogus as the restraints don't "click" like was reported in this article.

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Factoring in the excessive weight of the rider combined with the extreme negative g-forces on that ride might be enough to cause a part failure in the restraint. Like a popcorn kernel. The outwards force of the kernel (rider) causes it to break the shell (restraint).

 

Does it have to be a part failure, though? Just because the restraint is in the outermost locked position for a normal body type, couldn't there be one outlying body type out there that is able to come free?

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(Not to distract from the current discussion, but can someone tell me what the "NTAG" acronym stands for? I've never understood it. haha [Or perhaps this is some sort of inside joke from which I'll forever be shut out?])

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It's always sad to hear when something like this happens on a roller coaster as great as Texas Giant. I feel especially bad not just for the woman who sadly lost her life, but also for the people on-board who saw everything happening. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this tragedy.

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(Not to distract from the current discussion, but can someone tell me what the "NTAG" acronym stands for? I've never understood it. haha [Or perhaps this is some sort of inside joke from which I'll forever be shut out?])

 

NTAG stands for New Texas Giant.

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This makes me even more sad that I'm going to the park next month. My heart goes out to the victim and to everyone who was standing by for her. This is a day at Six Flags Over Texas that we will never forget.

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Gerstlauer really is in trouble this time and I think RMC trains will replace the trains on NTaG and iRat. Probably SFMM's Revolution won't get a new train from Gerstlauer for a long time, other parks as well

 

We don't know what happened so no one can be in "trouble" yet. And not to sound blunt or take away from what happened - things happens and companies move on. See any of the many previous accidents over the years - most of those companies are still around.

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(Not to distract from the current discussion, but can someone tell me what the "NTAG" acronym stands for? I've never understood it. haha [Or perhaps this is some sort of inside joke from which I'll forever be shut out?])

 

 

NTAG is the confusing acronym that TPR came up with for New Texas Giant.

 

There have been several incidents where a rider that was too large to ride (per the ride manufactures specs), has been allowed to ride due to ride op error, and thus caused the accident. While roller coaster accidents are not "common", this does seem to be quite a common re-occurring issue when they DO happen.

 

I'm aware of the many "over weight" accidents (for lack of a better term) but I feel like I'm missing something (maybe these came out in the previous accidents that I didn't as closely follow?). If the restraint locks/shows a green light/etc how would I operator know that the guest is too large to ride? Does the extra pressure up against the restraint cause the failure? I'll admit I've see all the time when one or two operators have to push the restraint to close around a larger guest but does that translate into extra force on the restraint? Or as others mentions is it, for lack of better wording - their body shape and the way the restraint comes down around it?

 

Maybe the answer isn't known - I'm just curious and thinking out loud.

 

Again, I am NOT speculating on THIS accident, but I do want to comment on your note on body shape. I am 5'8" and 210 lbs. I am fat, but not super huge (Rob and other TPR members have seen me ride NTG). I am not near large enough for it to be a problem for the restraint light to come on when I ride New Texas Giant or Iron Rattler, in fact the light comes on way before the restraint gets to my gut. That being said, once the restraint hits my gut it stops there unless the ride op or I add more force. My shape allows me to have some great ejector airtime rides on both of the coasters, I never feel insecure to the point where I feel like I could squeeze out, but I do think I get a bit more out of my seat than less fat riders whose restrains go down and press hard on their legs/thighs. (again, my gut stops the restraint before my thighs). If I were the same shape and much larger, I could possibly see the effect being even greater.

 

P.S. I've only been refused ride on one ride, Revolution at Galveston Pleasure Pier, because they couldn't get the light to come on. Others that were MUCH fatter than me were able to ride, but their shape was different and they were able to get the light on easily.

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Gerstlauer really is in trouble this time

 

Why would they be in trouble?

 

I'm sure by tomorrow, we will have more details of what caused the accident. It could be a number of things.

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^Gerstlaur made the trains, and therefore the restraint mechanism. That is the logic in his statement.

 

I Feel bad speculating so soon after the accident, but I'm sure it will turn out to be ride op error.

 

Also, the reported part of the ride she fell out on seems strange...doesn't seem like it is the airtime heavy part of the ride. It was after the double up. With those side walls on the train it would seem difficult to eject sideways.

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Again, I am NOT speculating on THIS accident, but I do want to comment on your note on body shape. I am 5'8" and 210 lbs. I am fat, but not super huge (Rob and other TPR members have seen me ride NTAG). I am not near large enough for it to be a problem for the restraint light to come on when I ride New Texas Giant or Iron Rattler, in fact the light comes on way before the restraint gets to my gut. That being said, once the restraint hits my gut it stops there unless the ride op or I add more force. My shape allows me to have some great ejector airtime rides on both of the coasters, I never feel insecure to the point where I feel like I could squeeze out, but I do think I get a bit more out of my seat than less fat riders whose restrains go down and press hard on their legs/thighs. (again, my gut stops the restraint before my thighs). If I were the same shape and much larger, I could possibly see the effect being even greater.

 

P.S. I've only been refused ride on one ride, Revolution at Galveston Pleasure Pier, because they couldn't get the light to come on. Others that were MUCH fatter than me were able to ride, but their shape was different and they were able to get the light on easily.

 

Thanks for sharing your point of view - interesting stuff. I guess I never realized it isn't so much the larger size but how the larger body dimensions come in contact/don't come in contact with the restraints.

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NTAG is the confusing acronym that TPR came up with for New Texas Giant.

It's not confusing at all. If you don't like it, get the f**k off our website. Not going to tolerate your crappy attitude anymore, dude.

 

EDIT: You've been banned. I have every right to get rid of annoying people, and you've annoyed me too much. Goodbye.

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