Hong Kong & Macau TR

[Garet]

So we recently came back from two days at Hong Kong Disneyland. It was our son's first Disneyland trip and I think Hong Kong is one of the best ones to use as a beginner park, a park which opens later, you don't need to line-up hours before to get in and reserve passes, overall a pretty relaxed two days. The first visit (tier 1) was actually far busier than our second day (tier 2) but even at the busiest ride times maxed out at around 30-40 minute lines and would drop throughout the day.

I want to give a big shout-out to TPR's Facebook stories, it's a shame such information disappears because Robb's comments on Momentous and the water-screen made us realize we didn't need to be super close and spend on a VIP package or grab a space hours early. The lines were walk-on so the fast track would have been wasted and with a picky eater son (and not many good reviews) so would have been the Momentous buffet deal and we (accidentally) ended up with an amazing Momentous experience due to this.

A couple of points that aren't negative but to be aware of:

Meet and Greets/App: Not sure if this is Disney-wide or Hong Kong-specific but we constantly saw disappointment on people's faces around this. I'll give some examples in my TR but a prime example: Moana. With Moana 2 coming out, and Moana having a stage show and segments in the Momentous show she was extremely popular. The app listed the time as 3:35-4:45 which seems good but the Moana stage show was just after 4 p.m. and you can't have two Moanas out. So Moana actually had to be gone by 3:55 so the line was cut super-early. We were the very last group let in (I'd say about 10-15 groups total) and so many frustrated people were waving the app screens in cast members faces who were turning them away.

Perhaps if the app updated when lines were closed or said who was around better it wouldn't happen, the app led us often to places that turned out to be closed but as the weather in Hong Kong gets hotter I think this park in particular needs an overhaul on this with more indoor areas so characters aren't having to disappear due to clashes of also being in parades/shows or weather. People obviously don't mind lining up for them, even on the quietest days Fantasy Gardens had 40-minute lines, Iron Man 40-50, and Duffy Playhouse was 90-120 all day, but the few other characters on the app only saw a very small amount of groups for the whole day and that seemed to give people frustration.

Also shade: As I said meet and greets were hugely popular. If the character meet and greet areas are all now fixed areas, hopefully, Disney can find a way to put some shade where their queue lines were set up. If you go you need to pack a parasol. For example, even when there weren't issues, Chip and Dale were always at 60 minutes waiting to meet them but the line was completely exposed to the sun, I think for timed meetings only the Marvel meet had shade.

Our son is a big train fan, so of course we had to ride the Mickey Train to get to the park.

Our last visit to this park was Autopia's final year so we were excited to see what had changed.

Halloween was in full swing but I didn't have time to get a picture. Our son's main visit was he had been super excited to get some Disney autographs in his book and from our previous visits we knew HK could have some very quick cut offs..... we just didn't know how quick.

So the park had a scheduled opening at 10:30 and we had arrived early and arrived at the first meet and greet which was Minnie by 10:33. Unfortunately that line had already been cut off. Apparently, it's easier in the summer when Pixar is the parade but on the days we visited Minnie had to be gone before the shows at the castle or Halloween parades so the windows were always too small. This one is my fault though, I foolishly thought we didn't need to buy the early entry pass since ride lines were so short but turns out people use the first 30 minutes to do rides, then they rope-drop Minnie/Chip n Dale on Main Street or the Duffy playhouse to avoid the lines.

 

We were advised that Chip n Dale would be available at the other end of the street and the line was open! However, after 15 minutes of no-show, the staff were advising that 'They'd eaten too much Halloween candy' and would be another 20 minutes at least. With an advertised hours worth of people and no shade we had to bail. Our son wasn't happy but we couldn't risk 90 minutes under the midday sun. Lesson learned, you need to pack a parasol but I'm not sure we'd have survived that line even with one in that heat.

We were advised to try Fantasy Gardens but found them empty and with the app reading no show times today, shop staff told us to try after lunch time.  With frustration setting in and since he's big on super heroes, we headed off to meet Iron-Man. Even on the quiet days this line was 30-50 minutes but he did it twice, so it became our rope-drop on the 2nd day.

Unfortunately, unlike some of the other parks, non-signing characters don't have any stamps to put in the books instead so he was a little sad he couldn't get Iron Man's signature

Wasp suddenly passed through the area surrounded by Shield Agents. The walkthrough lasted only a few minutes and you could only take selfies. We also learnt that roaming characters don't sign books either so we decided to get some rides done to try and cool-off.

I don't get the hate the rides here get, especially Ant-Man. We did the Iron Man ride twice and then headed over to Ant Man. Our son rode this 3-4 times a row and only had good things to say. Esepcially enjoying the shrinking down effect. I feel like Buzz Lightyear had to be updated, I don't think it would have worked so well in this Marvel heavy area, even Hyperspace Mountain and orbiter felt a little out of place. I'm surprised Orbiter didn't get a Guardians make over. 

Our son was lapping Ant-Man but he was still desperate to get some signatures. However we noticed some barriers being erected at the stage.

Could a superhero rescue my son's day? An unlikely hero was about to appear.... 

 

 

 

Finally a signature in the book. There was a heavy price to pay however, Loki announced that a signature was signing a contract to join his army of the damned. Loki repeated on both our visits due to Halloween but our son didn't care and was the only villain we managed to get (more on that later).

Did we give up our son's soul to Loki's army of the damned? Yes. But signature #1 was gained.

Our son is really not into roller-coasters but he tried this. He wasn't a huge fan. It was also my first time with the Star Wars overlay but I gotta say with the area so Marvel heavy (and Spider-Man ride coming soon), and so little Star Wars things in the park, I wonder if another overlay will come eventually.

I love the new castle over the old one. The princess meet and greet was here with a sign who was currently there, but princesses rotated so often inside, despite cast members warning people in the line, we heard a lot of complaints from people who would line up for Rapunzel or Belle but ended up meeting Tiana or Merida.

Fantasy Gardens has been downsized due to Frozen land but during the day they had one booth for Winnie the Pooh and one for a Disney friend. Since characters could rotate nearby out of sight, it was one of the only lines we didn't see being cut during the trip. These characters repeated on our visit, and meet and greets were so popular that lines were 60 minutes even on a dead day but it was two more signatures in the book.

And we didn't have to sacrifice any more souls to get them.

Most people rush Frozen Land in the morning so we waited for the crowds to clear before heading over after midday.

Elsa and Anna roamed quite often and were a huge hit but so many people wanted photo-ops that they just couldn't get. People seemed to be grabbing standby passes for Playhouse in the Woods thinking it was a meet and greet and seemed disappointed in the show that it wasn't. Hopefully at some point in the future an indoor meeting hall could be expanded here.

Another ride that gets hate but I do think the park needed a  beginner roller-coaster for the very young ones to get to experience. RC Racer/Hyperspace Mountain and Grizzly all don't really fill that 'Child's first coaster' slot that this one does very nicely.

With the line now walk-on we headed in, although we did stop since Anna was in the queue line greeting some guests.

We haven't been on the Epcot or Japan versions to compare but on it's own, it was a very fun and enjoyable ride. The drop was steeper than I expected and it's nice that the park finally has some kind of water ride.

We ate a lot of food here....

Bumped into Anna again. Sadly no signatures from a wandering character, but a nice conversation and a high five was gained.

 

 

 

Back to Fantasyland since a show was starting. I did not miss the Golden Mickey's it replaced at all. The Tiana singer was fantastic.

Most of the crowd spilled out here but we had to ride since my son had never experienced it and wanted to.

Toy Story Land was next door but since our main purpose for visiting was signatures, we skipped over to Mystic Manor. What can I say? This ride is still one of my favorite Disney rides all these years later, and we definitely lapped it multiple times while we had time.

I'm jumping ahead a little, but we rode Grizzly on our second visit. It was having some hiccups on the first day and the line was 30-40 minutes. As I said, our son's not huge on roller-coasters so I figured I'd grab my one ride on the next day.

You know a roller-coaster is done right when someone who hates most of them demands re-rides. He lapped it 6 times in a row, and then went back throughout the day and is still complaining now that we didn't introduce him to the ride on the 1st day.

Jungle Cruise no longer divides the queues and boats into separate languages. To be honest, I didn't miss it at all. The skippers seemed to struggle before and the line seemed slower with boats divided. With one line, it moved much faster and the skippers seemed much more at ease.

Finally heading over to Toy Story Land due to a meet and greet time, RC Racer was down for scheduled maintenance at the time of our visit.

So if I have one negative about the park, it would be the app. We were constantly chasing ghosts or areas that actually weren't open meet-or-greets. We figured a two-hour window would be pretty safe if we showed up a little after the time but we showed up to find an empty area and no line or cast members to ask. The shop members just told us that it was 'when a magical moment' could happen. I just wonder then instead of these 2 long posted times, having an updating app that tells people when characters are actually out. Disney has some of the best imagineers in the world, an app that can update would be nice.

Since this is one of the only places to get Dole Whip, we decided to buy some slushies and hang around in case Jessie came out.

Thankfully she showed up around 5:15, so perhaps 2 showings were made in that total time period. As was the standard the line hit capacity pretty quickly.

Woody was around on the second day but since his window was only 45 minutes, we didn't dare attempt it when we got off a ride and realised we'd missed my alarm and was already 10 minutes into his time.

Anyway signature #4 gained.

So I mentioned this at the start of the TR but Moana is hugely popular. She had one viewing slot of 70 minutes. However... there was a Moana stage show at 4:10. She was great with our son but even arriving as soon as we could we were the very last in the line around 3:45 with the cast member behind us I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a bit uncomfortable as frustrated families were trying to argue and showing the app screens. If Moana came back somehow at the very end of that timeslot the CM definitely didn't say anything to anyone.

But after 2 days we finally gained a 5th and final signature in the book.

This was our first visit to Disney post-pandemic, so not sure if it's all parks but on our last visit we had over 20 photo meetings with characters around the park without even trying. Now we have a child into those things and even chasing the app only managed about 5.

And she was gone by 3:55. The app told us that the marketplace would have Up/Stitch/Lion King/Aladdin characters rotating but it was completely abandoned during the Halloween season.

It's not a huge thing but this area and the Marvel expo area don't do greets but are listed on the app as open, and I really wish they could just update when areas aren't actually in use like they do restaurants/rides.

Further down, there was a villain fashion show, and a villain musical had replaced Lion King but they were packed and people were buying premier passes to both to jump the lines. The speaking characters like Evil Queen or Malificent were over here but cast members would only count in 10 groups before cutting the line so we had no luck there. Coupled with the huge lines for the villain shows in Adventure Land, people buying premier passes for those, and Halloween merchandise already being sold out (like the Nightmare Before Christmas popcorn bucket) early October, I really hope this park gets their own version of Not so Scary Party sometime in the future.

 

Anyway that's the negative part done, back to positive.

We headed back to Fantasy Gardens since according to the app suited villains would be out here.We found one pagoda had become a trick-or treat station and only one to meet a non-speaking villain. However, since villains were Halloween exclusive people were going crazy for them. We would show up to an empty pagoda before the start time and no character out yet to find the cast-members already turning people away already due to capacity, even though no-one knew which villain was coming out yet.

Maybe I'm the minority but I preferred getting Disney-wrapped/Mickey-shaped jellies over brands like the other parks do. I think chocolate would never survive the climate though.

 

Time to wrap up this TR. I'm so grateful that we saw TPR's Facebook stories about Momentous. We'd been trying to work out the best time/place to view it but the review from Robb about the water screen made us reconsider our plans.

Even two hours before the performance people were getting their spaces in. We knew we'd have to pick up our son and hold him (there were a few kids on shoulders but we aren't that kind of people) but the bigger issue was the Insta360 cameras. They are really popular on the Chinese market and are way longer than any selfie stick and we saw a few people checking their angles even at this time so we knew our view would be compromised....

 

And then a happy accident.....

 

We figured going off the TPR socials that we should just view the castle from the side so we decided to eat first and grab any standing space when we were done. However, the restaurant was packed inside with the air-con so we were directed outside to sit. And this was the view of the castle. We debated a compromised view since the tree to the right would block some fireworks but from memory of TPR's socials (Again why does Insta/Facebook remove these after 24 hours) we knew fireworks on the left and right were identical.

The best view tables had been grabbed pretty early but we decided instead of having the best view we'd settle for a good experience. Instead of being crowded in standing for an hour and holding up a child for half of that, we'd watch the fireworks sitting down with our own space so we ordered a lot of food, beer, and dessert. We lucked out even more that a group holding one of the best tables decided they didn't actually want to watch with a blocked view and left so we quickly grabbed their seat by the railing.

It's a nice touch that in the 30 minute lead up they run a bunch of short pre-shows to get the crowd ready and in the mood.

With the decision made we ordered a lot of food and more beer, and settled in for the show. Watching a Disney night show comfortably with dinner was something I didn't think I'd get to experience especially when 1 hour earlier i'd been dreading having to stand around and hold my son up so thank-you TPR socials.

An incredible show. Really glad we watched it.

I remember seeing Robb's posts about the screen and figured that it was just blurry because it needed to be that big for people far away to also see. I was wrong. Although looking through my photos this is the only time we could see it from our view-point for almost the whole show.

 

 

 

This was our view from the restaurant seats. Was it perfect? No. But I think standing among the Insta360 cameras and kids on shoulders holding up a heavy child in my arms, would have been a worse end to the day than relaxing eating alright-ish burgers and delicious waffles while having beers with my wife.

Goodbye Hong Kong Disney.

Thanks for the memories.

P.S. I know people crap on Wish a lot. The park gives away excess merchandise as free gifts with your tickets. On one day we lucked out and got the slippers, but on the other days, the park was unloading Wish merchandise for free just to get rid of it.

I almost watched it on the plane to see if it was as bad as everyone says. But with a 3 hour plane journey I couldn't resist having an Inside Out marathon.

 

[BitterOldHag]

25 minutes ago, Garet said:

the bigger issue was the Insta360 cameras. They are really popular on the Chinese market and are way longer than any selfie stick

If it was the 3m version of the selfie stick, I am very surprised that Disney allows those in. When fully extended, that thing is a hinderance to anyone in the vicinity. And hopefully it wasn't the "bullet-time" selfie stick. Seeing people swinging those around in circles at a place like Disney would be an epic fail on all fronts! 

HK Disney looks pretty amazing. Absolutely love the mountains behind the castle. Really gives the park a unique look.  Thanks for sharing your pics and TR! 

[bert425]

wonderful report. . thank you so much for sharing!

[Nrthwnd]

All that food and drink before the fireworks ..... yum. I assume you timed things "between courses"?

And this castle is such a Huge Canvas for the show projections on it... awesome.

Great trip to HKDL for you and the family!