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So, does anyone want to take any bets on how many quick Microsoft Paint photo comparisons we'll see of old Hulk vs New Hulk throughout the coming months? Anyone? Place yer bets!

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So, does anyone want to take any bets on how many quick Microsoft Paint photo comparisons we'll see of old Hulk vs New Hulk throughout the coming months? Anyone? Place yer bets!

I'll take that action!

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Yep! This support confirms it!! This will officially be the worlds first RMC T-Rex coaster!! They are just hiding the RMC track inside the B&M track to try and confuse people!!

 

(Obviously I am kidding)

 

I am super excited to see this coaster develop, and see what (if any) changes get made to the layout. . . I still can't figure out why Universal is being so ... "Quiet" with this project.

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I'm really thinking they are staying quiet because it legitimately is exactly the same ride being out in, only adding some new special effects and a better launch system...

Same. I'm firmly in the "this is really no big deal" camp.

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I'm really thinking they are staying quiet because it legitimately is exactly the same ride being out in, only adding some new special effects and a better launch system...

Same. I'm firmly in the "this is really no big deal" camp.

 

I would also bet/hope on new restraints. Either Lap Bars (Probably not) or Soft Padding like on Banshee/Valravn/Wing Coasters

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I would also bet/hope on new restraints. Either Lap Bars (Probably not) or Soft Padding like on Banshee/Valravn/Wing Coasters

Unless they widen the clearances, I don't see that happening, considering that the new seating arrangement is slightly wider than the old one (Right?). They're still producing the old-style trains if I'm not mistaken, they just stuck new customized floorless ones on Rougarou.

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Out of curiosity, this would be the first modern steel coaster (post 2000, though Hulk was technically opened in 1999) that has had a full track refurbishment? Has that happened besides coasters that have been relocated (Apocalypse, Thunderhawk, etc.)?

 

I fall on the cautionary side that Universal make enough addition/enhancement to find some way to market it. This looks to be far more than a Disney's Space Mountain changes back in 2009 (costly but not enough of a ride experience change on a scale that Disney would market).

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Is Hulk confirmed to have an identical layout to the original? Or might it be reworked a bit? The first half is gold, but after the 2nd vertical loop, it really becomes bland, IMO.

 

The part I don't get about the Hulk-second half complaints is (1) the ride is 3/4 finished my the block brake and (2) what B&M sit-down/floorless has an inspired post-block break/second half anyway? Maybe a case could be made for Kumba/Kraken b/c of the tunnel, but Is there much you could actually expect done besides a standard 1-2 corkscrews and some helices?

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Another thing that crossed my mind - does this mean that Universal Orlando will still be hanging onto their license for Marvel properties for the foreseeable future? You'd think that if the license was about to expire, they would have re-themed the Hulk coaster.

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^There is no expiration on the license for Marvel at Universal. As long as Universal keeps paying Marvel (Disney) the fair value owed each year for the license (as defined by an objective intermediary third party), then Universal will be able to continue to use Marvel exactly as the agreement has always allowed.

 

Universal has the rights in perpetuity unless they decide to stop paying for them.

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Forgive me if this has been covered already, but can anyone explain why Universal is re-building the exact same coaster, layout and all (from what we can tell so far)? One would think that is a huge investment, which obviously could have been spent on a completely new attraction. Don't get me wrong, I love that the Hulk isn't changing. It's one of my favorites. I'm just surprised. Can anyone make sense of it? It's unprecedented, no?

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Don't get me wrong, I love that the Hulk isn't changing. It's one of my favorites.

 

I think you said why right there. It's a lot of people's favorite attraction and one that's pretty iconic to that property so it's probably worth keeping and maintaining even if it's at roughly the same cost of a new attraction. Besides they are building new attractions at the same time, one in IOA and two in the Studios.

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It's unprecedented, no?

 

Actually not. Disney has completely rebuilt at least one Space Mountain and one Thunder Mountain. Hulk is nearly to that same cult status. They want to keep it, it's an iconic ride, but after the equivalent of 25+ years worth of use it needs to be completely replaced.

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It will be interesting to see if other parks go this route with their more iconic steel coasters from this era (circa 2000), whether they are B&M or any other manufacturer. It takes a lot of money, but could be worth it. This will be a great example for others to see what the payoff might be.

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It's unprecedented, no?

 

Actually not. Disney has completely rebuilt at least one Space Mountain and one Thunder Mountain. Hulk is nearly to that same cult status. They want to keep it, it's an iconic ride, but after the equivalent of 25+ years worth of use it needs to be completely replaced.

 

Just wondering, but did Disneyland completely rebuild Space Mountain (both structure and track) or did they just replace the track? I definitely could be wrong, but I was thinking they just replaced all the track and left the structure intact.

 

Either way, seeing Hulk re-done this way is definitely something I wouldn't expect to see many other parks do with their aging B&Ms because I'm sure this is costing a pretty penny. Probably 90% of coaster costs are tied up in construction and fabrication. This is surely a $20+ million project. Like what was said up above, Hulk is essentially the equivalent of a 25-30 year old coaster with the way it's been operated and on top of that, most parks are able to do some maintenance in the winter time anyway.

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