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Those Marvel characters that Universal "wants to get rid of" have a new film that's already made $700 million dollars, and the movie has been in release worldwide for about 10 days. The overwhelming about of rumor mongering about Universal getting rid of Marvel comes from ardent, hyper orthodox Disney nerds dreaming about getting the characters in DHS, not the guys typically breaking Universal junk. Universal has rights to the characters in *perpetuity* and it makes more sense for them to expand on it and upgrade given how outrageously popular they are vs. the price they pay for the IP than to rip it out and pay someone else for their's. Last I checked, Universal doesn't own Nickelodeon, Simpsons, Potter, Seuss, or Nintendo, do they?

 

Now, you want to talk about tired old IPs in the park that Nintendo could replace; You guys realize Fievel is still in Universal Orlando, right? And Curious George? And Barney the Dinosaur? Who wants to take bets that those end up getting chopped down before Marvel leaves IOA? Cash only. DirkFunk doesn't play.

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To add to this, they would seriously have to pull a rabbit out of their hat to replace Spiderman. For one thing, they just spent all that time and money re-doing all of the animations for it, and unlike Popeye, Dudley Do-Right and Woody Woodpecker, everyone knows who Spiderman is.

 

As a gut reaction, if I were to get rid of an Orlando land for Nintendo IP attractions, it would be either Toon Lagoon or the rest of the Lost Continent in Islands, or the Kids' Zone in the Studios.

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Just a question but why is everybody not wanting Kong now? I'm excited for Nintendo Land to I'm just also excited for Skull Island....

 

I just find it funny how yesterday everyone was excited for Kong and now it's like old news ...

 

I'm sure a lot of us are still excited for Kong. But of course we also heard rumors and saw construction going on already. This Nintendo announcement was out of nowhere it seems. Plus it's freaking Nintendo. They might as well retheme Kong into Donkey Kong because holy crap that would be awesome.

 

I see your point... I just wish that IOA had enough space to add Kong and re-theme Toon Lagoon by adding new rides and retheming the water rides. I really hope that they keep Ripsaw Falls and Rat Barges both if they re-theme the area and add like 1 or 2 new ones. They just have two awesome water rides in that area they hopefully keep.

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Just a question but why is everybody not wanting Kong now? I'm excited for Nintendo Land to I'm just also excited for Skull Island....

 

I just find it funny how yesterday everyone was excited for Kong and now it's like old news ...

 

I'm sure a lot of us are still excited for Kong. But of course we also heard rumors and saw construction going on already. This Nintendo announcement was out of nowhere it seems. Plus it's freaking Nintendo. They might as well retheme Kong into Donkey Kong because holy crap that would be awesome.

 

Yep--it's not like Kong was all that big a secret.

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Someone just tweeted this to us! lol

 

Makes me wonder with the announcements so close together, if they waited to see how the Kong announcement went first. If Kong had got a lot of people talking about Universal, would we have seen this announcement come later once the Kong talk died down?

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While I do love that Universal is planning something with Nintendo, I don't see it replacing Marvel at all. I honestly see them doing something with the whole kid zone over at Universal Studios aimed more towards families with a great indoor ride as well as little outdoor kid rides in the area.

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^Given how productive of their brands Nintendo is (with the exception of one very bizarre film), I would agree. It has been rumored that Nintendo has been courted for years by various theme park chains (as well as individual operators hoping to partner with Nintendo to build their own parks) but they've never pulled the trigger until now... I'd imagine the level of quality and immersion behind Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade was probably a convincing factor in showing the Nintendo executives that their brands can be brought to life in a way that is respectful, immersive, innovative and worthy of the names which have made their company so successful for so many years.

 

This arrangement can only benefit both parties--there is no downside to be seen here.

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We'll be hearing this in the near future: "As we continue to provide excellent attractions for our guest, 2018 is going to be a great year. 'Donkey Kong VS King Kong: The Ultimate Battle' will be unlike any other attraction! Come to face with both apes as your fully immersed in a world full of excitement and wonder." This is all from my imagination so take it as you wish!

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We'll be hearing this in the near future: "As we continue to provide excellent attractions for our guest, 2018 is going to be a great year. 'Donkey Kong VS King Kong: The Ultimate Battle' will be unlike any other attraction! Come to face with both apes as your fully immersed in a world full of excitement and wonder." This is all from my imagination so take it as you wish!

 

How about a 4D coaster where you ride in the barrels the big apes are rolling at each other?

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We'll be hearing this in the near future: "As we continue to provide excellent attractions for our guest, 2018 is going to be a great year. 'Donkey Kong VS King Kong: The Ultimate Battle' will be unlike any other attraction! Come to face with both apes as your fully immersed in a world full of excitement and wonder." This is all from my imagination so take it as you wish!

 

How about a 4D coaster where you ride in the barrels the big apes are rolling at each other?

Now that would be great!

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I don't see why whenever there's a new annoucement, people think Marvel is going away....it is not going anywhere! They're actually planning a new attraction for Marvel in the area, if most of my sources are correct.

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We'll be hearing this in the near future: "As we continue to provide excellent attractions for our guest, 2018 is going to be a great year. 'Donkey Kong VS King Kong: The Ultimate Battle' will be unlike any other attraction! Come to face with both apes as your fully immersed in a world full of excitement and wonder." This is all from my imagination so take it as you wish!

 

How about a 4D coaster where you ride in the barrels the big apes are rolling at each other?

 

When can they start construction on this?

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I think people need to realize that whatever fee Universal has to pay to Disney to use their IP is insignificant compared to the cost of having to redo an entire land. This isn't Six Flags or Cedar Fair, Universal isn't just going to take out all the Marvel IP and try to re-use what they can under some new IP. If Universal was to ever re-theme the area, it would most likely be a complete overhaul. Do I see Universal using the Nintendo opportunity to rid itself of Disney IP? No I don't. Hulk is by far one of the most popular and efficient attractions and I don't think it really fits the Nintendo IP. The Nintendo attractions will be family attractions, not high speed roller coasters. Quite frankly I don't ever see Universal tearing out Hulk so I think that idea is completely out the window. There are many other areas around both parks that need to be revamped and one of those will most definitely be the area that Nintendo takes over, not Marvel Super Hero Island.

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Very true. Toon Lagoon is the one land built on some pretty dated material. That would be the best place to put a Nintendo world make over. Attractio wise, the basing a Nintendo world dark ride off the tech behind Spider-man, either HP ride, would be great to see. Don't know if Orlando has the room, but what if they could actually do a trackless racing attraction for Mario Kart? Be fascinating to see what they develop.

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I think people need to realize that whatever fee Universal has to pay to Disney to use their IP is insignificant compared to the cost of having to redo an entire land. This isn't Six Flags or Cedar Fair, Universal isn't just going to take out all the Marvel IP and try to re-use what they can under some new IP. If Universal was to ever re-theme the area, it would most likely be a complete overhaul. Do I see Universal using the Nintendo opportunity to rid itself of Disney IP? No I don't. Hulk is by far one of the most popular and efficient attractions and I don't think it really fits the Nintendo IP. The Nintendo attractions will be family attractions, not high speed roller coasters. Quite frankly I don't ever see Universal tearing out Hulk so I think that idea is completely out the window. There are many other areas around both parks that need to be revamped and one of those will most definitely be the area that Nintendo takes over, not Marvel Super Hero Island.

 

Marvel Super Hero Island is not the eye-popping "WOW!!" level of theme that can be found these days, including in Universal with the Harry Potter areas. The area is due for a re-theme. The only real question is when. Spider-Man is a great ride, but those plywood cutouts hanging about the midways IMO look rather hideous and subpar. The Hulk theme can be replaced rather easily since there isn't a whole lot of it to begin with.

 

To me it looks more like one of those cases where both Disney and Universal can up their games a great deal by agreeing to release the use of Marvel to Disney. That way Disney can fully use the Marvel IPs to their standards (which is not going on in Marvel Super Hero Island), and Universal is free to build up something like Nintendo to the levels recently seen with Potter, Springfield, new Kong, etc. The Nintendo theme can absolutely be applied to thrilling rides such as Hulk Coaster and Spider-Man. The whole idea of Nintendo being kids-only is a misconception similar to the idea that Walt Disney World is kids-only. There's no reason at all why one of Nintendo's franchises wouldn't do as a replacement theme for Hulk.

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