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P. 620: Our video of EVERY house from HHN 31

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Nothing recently, just the Jurassic Park arch coming down on the Toon Lagoon end. Most likely to move it back for the rumored Kongstruction site and future mini island. I would guess at least a couple years away if Kong is definitely moving back in 2015.

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I think i found a picture of the layout for Gringotts. Can someone that`s been on the ride confirm this?

 

Thats blue prints for the internal queue, train barn, entire ride, exit pathways, lockers, on ride photo, and part of Wiseacres the exit gift shop.

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^I think it will. It's very low capacity (I'm hearing less than 300pph right now) and it's the only ride in the new area (train doesn't count!). You're going to wait a LONG time if you want to ride this anytime soon.

 

The team is currently averaging around 90 seconds per dispatch. Brings it to almost 1000 PPH.

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^I must have caught a very efficient bank this past Saturday. Both stations were running and dispatch was definitely not 90 seconds. It was a lot shorter. I guess the goblins were on point this past Saturday! They probably didn't have as much Butterbeer Ice Cream lol

 

Anyway, HAPPY 1 WEEK Anniversary to DIAGON ALLEY!

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^ Thanks. I know that some people have been wondering about this.

 

For those that have ridden Gringotts, is the regular line "experience" worth going through one time? We are going in a week and a half (always arrive about an hour early with tickets in hand), but don't have early park access. It sounds like when they open the park, the wait is around 2 hours already. We will be at USO for 2/3 of the first day, and then a full day after that. Is it worth sitting in the full line to get the whole experience on the first day, and then just going to the single rider line the next day? Or should we just skip the full line and hit single rider both days? We do have 1 Harry Potter nut in our family, but she also understands the practicality of things too and if the full queue experience is just "meh" then we will hit single rider from the start.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions on this.

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Oh I don't know if anybody has done the stand-by queue when it rains but it doesn't have the best drainage system.

 

That's because it's always damp and rainy in England. Rain = Theming.

 

But I kid our friends in the UK.

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^ Thanks. I know that some people have been wondering about this.

 

For those that have ridden Gringotts, is the regular line "experience" worth going through one time? We are going in a week and a half (always arrive about an hour early with tickets in hand), but don't have early park access. It sounds like when they open the park, the wait is around 2 hours already. We will be at USO for 2/3 of the first day, and then a full day after that. Is it worth sitting in the full line to get the whole experience on the first day, and then just going to the single rider line the next day? Or should we just skip the full line and hit single rider both days? We do have 1 Harry Potter nut in our family, but she also understands the practicality of things too and if the full queue experience is just "meh" then we will hit single rider from the start.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions on this.

 

You do miss quite a lot in the single rider line. If you have a nut, you're best to at least do it once in the real queue.

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Here's a video that shows off the "coaster section" of the ride pretty well. It's at :44 and it lasts 8 seconds. There is another short coaster section later on in the ride, at 3:36, that it's questionable because it's mostly powered through that section, but technically I guess it could do some "coasting." The rest of the "fast" sections, you can see the drive tires moving the vehicle along.

 

It's a hard call for me. While I don't think I would argue against anyone that wants to put it on their "coaster list", the ride certainly *feels* much more like a "dark ride" than it does a "roller coaster." To me, Gringotts feels like "Spider-man with some faster sections" rather than it being more like "Mummy with more video screens."

 

Anyway, take a look...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp4eQNVx2Wk

**NOTE** I know these guys took this video without permission and cameras on not allowed on the ride. I normally would NOT be posting this video, but the fact that the coaster section has come up in conversation so much and this is the only example I can find to reference it is the ONLY reason why I would post this. I do not condone someone sneaking a camera on the ride to make a POV video.

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I . . . must . . . resist . . . the . . urge . . . to . . . watch . . . .

 

Well that didn't work, just couldn't resist

 

Same here. I did, however, just skip to the parts that Robb mentioned so that I could see the "coaster" parts. I still want some level of surprise when I ride it. The first part, at :44 in, must seem frightening in the dark as someone was screaming/hyperventilating pretty hard. Hehehe

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Hard to tell in the video, besides spinning, do the vehicles have any motion base to them like Spider Man and Transformers?

They do, yes. That section where the guards or whatever they are grab onto the ride vehicle has motion to them, as does the tilt when it looks like you're falling. There's quite a bit of motion base through the entire ride.

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It's a hard call for me. While I don't think I would argue against anyone that wants to put it on their "coaster list", the ride certainly *feels* much more like a "dark ride" than it does a "roller coaster." To me, Gringotts feels like "Spider-man with some faster sections" rather than it being more like "Mummy with more video screens.".

 

Robb is dead on this one. The ride's system and effects in the end are almost identical in feel to Spidey and Transformers.

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^^ What surprised me was the fact that they took so long to get the initial drop going. Bellatrix is zapping at you and it seems like the action stops while the track tilts and aligns and THEN send you on your way. Since they installed the motion base you'd think they'd have made it so the car can stay upright while the track tilts, that was when she starts attacking it can have been waiting to drop you already.

 

Then again it could just be that since the camera turned to face the track as it's tilting I don't even realize there's still stuff happening on the screen. Can anyone clarify if there's a pause there?

 

I'd also like to note that it looks like they realized their huge errors with Forbidden Journey. It's an actual story this time, much more accessible a la Spidey or Transformers. Also the integration between screens and sets! Forbidden Journey's integration was horrible as you could see the zipper effect happen each time, as well as the speed / 2D and 3D issue. "Oh, I'm flying at 60 miles an hour on a broom being chased by a dragon in 2D oh crap wait we're crawling now but the now 3D dragon is still trying to murder us....wait."

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^^ What surprised me was the fact that they took so long to get the initial drop going. Bellatrix is zapping at you and it seems like the action stops while the track tilts and aligns and THEN send you on your way. Since they installed the motion base you'd think they'd have made it so the car can stay upright while the track tilts, that was when she starts attacking it can have been waiting to drop you already.

 

Then again it could just be that since the camera turned to face the track as it's tilting I don't even realize there's still stuff happening on the screen. Can anyone clarify if there's a pause there?

It's the poor camera work by who ever filmed it. That sequence is actually pretty darn cool.

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I feel like I would be so terribly disappointed if I waited more than 20-30min for that...

 

I'm willing to bet that a lot of people would have been more than satisfied with just a good coaster without all the other stuff, so long as it was relatively true to the source material (and given all the extensive theming in Diagon Alley & the rest of the bank, etc.).

 

Or they could have even gone halfway but still given us a roller coaster. Imagine if you will, a coaster that takes you on a harrowing ride down into the vault (picturing something that reminds me vaguely of Donkey Kong, with random bits of track all over the place, and you're never really sure which piece of track is one you'll be on vs. what's just decoration hanging there); maybe it's a little 'wild-mouse'-esque, with sharp turns & such, but not anywhere near so predictable. Anyways, when you get to the bottom, you get caught in the middle of the theft/escape (stopped/very slow for a 3/4D scene) and then get launched back up out of the vault (via a spell, I'm sure), where you go through a bunch of much crazier elements. Maybe even an inversion or two as you dodge debris or attacks or something? I just have to think that they could have done something truly epic without having to invent ridiculously complicated ride technologies, and still kept closer to the original source material.

 

I'm all for immersive experiences, but to me Gringott's should have been so much more than just another Spider-Man/Transformers/Forbidden Journey ride, particularly since the source material practically screams 'coaster'. I'd still keep the rest of the bank theming, though. From what I've seen/heard, all that is fantastic.

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I am very much looking forward to riding this when I am down there in September for HHN as I am indeed a Potter fan so this has been on my radar for quite sometime.

 

Much like most dark ride POV's, I think that, while you can see everything on the ride in this video, nothing will do it justice like actually being on it. So, I am glad to hear that it rides better than it looks.

 

As for the credit debate, I would consider it as much as a credit as Wonder Mountain's Guardian. Both are very dirty credits for those that care, but at the end of the day, if those count Journey To Atlantis as a credit than they should count this.

 

Question Robb, did you get a chance to try the butterbeer ice cream? I am not sure if you are a fan of butterbeer or not but curious if you had any opinion of the ice cream form?

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