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P. 606: Velocicoaster Officially Opening June 10!

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We rode Velocicoaster today! Here's our thoughts on the ride....  

It was a fun ride. The first half felt very Maverick-y with the quick transitions between elements. All the theming REALLY adds to the overall feel of being chased by raptors. The 2nd half.....WOW! 

Two weekends ago I made my way back to the Universal Orlando Resort to experience the new Mardi Gras offerings, but also to get a chance to see Velocicoaster testing. I'll have photos from Mardi Gras

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Other important details: no, there's no official opening date though execs did repeat that it should be open in "Summer." And though previously reported, it's probably important to emphasize that in order to ride the Hogwarts Express, you will need to have a park-to-park ticket for both Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure.

 

This is the part that is totally mindblowing to me. This is essentially going to be an expensive up charge attraction for the parks, and I'm guessing one of the most successful ones ever. It is mind blowing to me the ways that USF is figuring out how to print massive amounts of money, and this seems like another great step forward for them. With the innovation that they are doing, I would not be surprised to see them as the main destination in Florida. That's crazy.

 

I can't wait to hear details!

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If the train holds 200 people, I wonder how many hourly circuits it will make. It makes me think they might have more than one train?

 

It's a cable car system. There are two trains and a bypass/track split half way. I don't know if a single train holds 200, or if it's the whole system holds 200 at a time.

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Other important details: no, there's no official opening date though execs did repeat that it should be open in "Summer." And though previously reported, it's probably important to emphasize that in order to ride the Hogwarts Express, you will need to have a park-to-park ticket for both Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure.

 

This is the part that is totally mindblowing to me. This is essentially going to be an expensive up charge attraction for the parks, and I'm guessing one of the most successful ones ever. It is mind blowing to me the ways that USF is figuring out how to print massive amounts of money, and this seems like another great step forward for them. With the innovation that they are doing, I would not be surprised to see them as the main destination in Florida. That's crazy.

 

I can't wait to hear details!

 

I wouldn't say it's an up charge. I would say that the execs certainly knew what they were doing when they put potter property in both parks though

 

If you want to experience all of the resort (as most guests do currently) you go to both parks, all they're doing is spreading a very popular property over both parks, they're not charging any "more" for it since park hopping tickets have been sold for years and many people buy them (myself included last October) because they want to get to both parks.

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The theme park/technology nerd in me is actually excited to see all the stuff they plan to do despite the fact I will have no idea what is going on!

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They've said the ride will be seven minutes long. So if that means 200 people every seven minutes that some where around 1700 people per hour. If they run two trains that will go up and they haven't said if they counted loading and unloading in the at time. If they did and they run two trains capacity could be in excess of 3000 people per hour.

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The theme park/technology nerd in me is actually excited to see all the stuff they plan to do despite the fact I will have no idea what is going on!

 

Same here. Ocean Park's funicular, which also runs two different "shows," was a lot of fun.

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The theme park/technology nerd in me is actually excited to see all the stuff they plan to do despite the fact I will have no idea what is going on!

 

Exactly. This sounds like interesting technology that I want to see, but I'm not reading a bunch of books or watching a bunch of movies that I have no interest in so I can understand the story.

 

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They've said the ride will be seven minutes long. So if that means 200 people every seven minutes that some where around 1700 people per hour. If they run two trains that will go up and they haven't said if they counted loading and unloading in the at time. If they did and they run two trains capacity could be in excess of 3000 people per hour.

 

I'm sure that is ride time that will be 7 minutes. That's a pretty good distance between both stations.

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They've said the ride will be seven minutes long. So if that means 200 people every seven minutes that some where around 1700 people per hour. If they run two trains that will go up and they haven't said if they counted loading and unloading in the at time. If they did and they run two trains capacity could be in excess of 3000 people per hour.

 

I'm sure that is ride time that will be 7 minutes. That's a pretty good distance between both stations.

 

Is that the exactly time of the train ride in the books? Shhhh! Don't tell JK.

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They've said the ride will be seven minutes long. So if that means 200 people every seven minutes that some where around 1700 people per hour. If they run two trains that will go up and they haven't said if they counted loading and unloading in the at time. If they did and they run two trains capacity could be in excess of 3000 people per hour.

 

I'm sure that is ride time that will be 7 minutes. That's a pretty good distance between both stations.

The thing is, though - it's really not. Especially if you consider the route backstage:universal.thumb.jpg.0c42a2906a072595fd458e54334bfa1e.jpgI have probably WALKED that exact same route in under ten minutes.

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^ Totally. When I read the 7 minute ride time I was thinking to myself "that's either got to be one REALLY SLOW train, or that includes everything, boarding, pre-show, etc..."

 

To put things into perspective, I just looked at the video I shot of the Ocean Park train ride, and that one is just shy of 4 minutes. And that thing goes through an entire mountain from one side of the island to the other! The images below show the distance the Ocean Park train goes and if the Universal train went that same distance, you'd be well outside the park across Vineland Ave! lol

 

So I would have to assume the 7 minutes is a slower train ride taking the "show" into consideration (and you'll never see the real outside, so you'll never know how fast or slow it's going), or that includes all the loading (boarding), and unload, etc...oceanpark.thumb.jpg.555b20efa324473f087ab96c57f0b494.jpg

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And to help even more, I drew a line on the Universal image about where the train station is:universalarea2.thumb.jpg.fc5475b0a03102c4f8fc80e6bfa11b8f.jpg

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The other thing to consider is the length of the "show" on the screens = Lots of money per minute. When I was in the video games biz and we did the original 60 intro to the Transformers game, that was $1 million for high-end, Spielberg/Bay approved CG animation. That was in 2007 and that was just a video game. I'm going to assume that's NOTHING compared to the cost now including having to use live actors AND have it approved by Rowling.

 

If I had to take a guess, the "show" is probably going to be 2-3 minutes tops simply for budget reasons alone.

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Which, in addition to the experience of getting from the pathway to the stations, makes for a really solidly timed attraction. A 2-3 minute show on top of going through the stations at each end would make for a longer experience than a lot of rides and seems like it would be the perfect length for something like this.

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The other thing to consider is the length of the "show" on the screens = Lots of money per minute. When I was in the video games biz and we did the original 60 intro to the Transformers game, that was $1 million for high-end, Spielberg/Bay approved CG animation. That was in 2007 and that was just a video game. I'm going to assume that's NOTHING compared to the cost now including having to use live actors AND have it approved by Rowling.

 

If I had to take a guess, the "show" is probably going to be 2-3 minutes tops simply for budget reasons alone.

 

Totally true - from the press release, I'd bet they filmed several little segments of different things (hippogriffs, Hagrid, Dementors, etc) that are probably pretty short in and of themselves, and then are stringing them together with landscape shots (to establish the trip, train speed, etc).

 

Even if the actual travel time is 7 minutes, they probably don't need more than 2-3 minutes of real "action" to make this interesting.

 

Now that they're on record as making each direction different, one wonders if they'll swap out or randomize any of the clips... or make the landscape shots seasonal? This would KILL for Christmas, as an example...

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The other thing to consider is the length of the "show" on the screens = Lots of money per minute. When I was in the video games biz and we did the original 60 intro to the Transformers game, that was $1 million for high-end, Spielberg/Bay approved CG animation. That was in 2007 and that was just a video game. I'm going to assume that's NOTHING compared to the cost now including having to use live actors AND have it approved by Rowling.

 

If I had to take a guess, the "show" is probably going to be 2-3 minutes tops simply for budget reasons alone.

 

On top of that there is a different show in both directions.

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Heres some new stuff about whats next for IOA. This is the rumored King Kong Project. Though universal hasn't announced anything yet, they are definitely moving forward with some new ride next to Jurassic Park.

 

Thanks to Screamscape and ParkScope

 

These were filed with the Orlando Water Management site:

 

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And they are for the new ride's show building. And to give a clearer picture, I have added the image below.

 

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If it's just the same King Kong 3D that's on the USH tram, I imagine people are going to be kinda disappointed. It's cool in the context of the 45 minute tram tour, but as a standalone experience?

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Yea, Kong has been linked to Universal Florida for nearly a year now. First rumored as a replacement for Disaster and now in the area above. It really hasn't been much of a secret for months now. As far as the ride itself, all the details out there point to it being much more than just a 3D screened attraction.

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I personally wish that they would choose a more modern day attraction. Sure, King Kong is iconic and pretty awesome, but there hasn't been a King Kong movie or anything made in a couple years. But regardless, I'm sure Universal will do a great job with the ride. I'd personally just rather get a different theme for a ride.

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