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It's a shame... Mt. Olympus has so much potential. And anywhere with something like Cyclops is worth a visit.

 

Despite never having stepped foot on the property, it appears that any of those three major woodies would be dramatically better in almost any other park. Between the uniqueness and intensity of both Hades 360 and Cyclops combined with the potentially fun airtime coaster that Zeus could be, there is a hidden threesome of amazing wooden coasters. Despite all of the hate going around about Hades 360, I deep down want to ride it just once to experience the uniqueness of that amazing layout. Heck, I even collected a bunch of Hades crap at IAAPA because I think the layout is so cool.

 

I'm not very familiar with the market aspects of that area, but perhaps Mt. Olympus doesn't try or care that much when it comes to comfort, service, and even safety because they really don't have much competition? It seems like they are busy enough and are not financially hurting to really see the need to be better. Not being pushed to always be on top can often result in thinking purely profit first before the guest experience.

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I'm not very familiar with the market aspects of that area, but perhaps Mt. Olympus doesn't try or care that much when it comes to comfort, service, and even safety because they really don't have much competition? It seems like they are busy enough and are not financially hurting to really see the need to be better. Not being pushed to always be on top can often result in thinking purely profit first before the guest experience.

 

I reviewed this earlier in thread and don't feel like harping on it that much. If you manage to get yourself on the zoning board, change people's zonings to screw their expansion plans, then buy their brand new rides for pennies on the dollar after forcing their hand (which he did; some of those rides are in that "indoor theme park"), it is gonna be tough to push you to improve. You can believe me or not. Doesn't change what's true.

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Despite never having stepped foot on the property, it appears that any of those three major woodies would be dramatically better in almost any other park. Between the uniqueness and intensity of both Hades 360 and Cyclops

 

There might be a catch-22 if those coasters were in another park. In any big park, Cyclops would have ratcheting lap bars, a re-profile of the drop and/or a complete stop before the drop - or all three of those.

 

I could see Hades doing real well in a place like Holiday World. They would run 3 trains, too There sure is enough time and track for 3 trains...

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I don't think they ever test their rides before opening. I'm 100% sure our first train on Hades360 ERT was the first train of that day we visited. For those who wish to go there, Little Amerricka is better.

 

Hope that man will wake up from his coma.

 

 

Bay Beach is better than Mt. Olympus. At least they know wooden coasters can run 2 trains on purpose. I hope that man sues the park and I hope Mt. Olympus realizes the error of their ways.

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Despite never having stepped foot on the property, it appears that any of those three major woodies would be dramatically better in almost any other park. Between the uniqueness and intensity of both Hades 360 and Cyclops

 

There might be a catch-22 if those coasters were in another park. In any big park, Cyclops would have ratcheting lap bars, a re-profile of the drop and/or a complete stop before the drop - or all three of those.

 

I could see Hades doing real well in a place like Holiday World. They would run 3 trains, too There sure is enough time and track for 3 trains...

Three trains? I would be happy with two trains.

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I don't think they ever test their rides before opening. I'm 100% sure our first train on Hades360 ERT was the first train of that day we visited. For those who wish to go there, Little Amerricka is better.

 

Hope that man will wake up from his coma.

 

I was on the first public train of Hades 360 last May and they sent the train out twice before calling the employees for five rides before calling the public in.

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Despite never having stepped foot on the property, it appears that any of those three major woodies would be dramatically better in almost any other park.

 

Just to add on to what others said... I think the coasters are "interesting" (I can't bring myself to use the term good!) because they ARE at Mt Olympus. Cyclops is a boring figure-8 layout but what makes it crazy is the fact you literally are thrown out of your seat unlike anything else on all hills (...and then there is the final drop! holy crap!). There is no way any other park (in the US at least) would let guests ever ride that in its current form. Zeus is just your standard out and back.

 

As to why they don't care - because no one holds them responsible? Does the state inspect rides on a yearly basis? I'm no ride safety inspector but after 2 hours there I could've found 20+ things that probably were severe no-nos. Why doesn't the state catch that? I'm not sure how WI inspects rides but many no-nos I saw were have no fencing between rides and paths (you could literally walk right onto track of kiddie coaster) - things that are present (or in this case not present) when the state inspects the rides each year.

 

They also probably don't care because they are slowly controlling the town. Mt Olypmus is unique in that they are working to build a self-made monopoly by buying up what would be run-down motels charging next to nothing a night, re-branding them (keeping them run-down...) and charging top dollar - essentially creating a false price floor in the market.

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Three trains? I would be happy with two trains.

 

I think everyone who went there would be happy with two... but I'm sure the ride could be rigged with 3. There certainly is enough track, and pre-lift section. The only problem would be the short brake at the end - but that could be modified. But yeah, 2 would be a HUGE improvement.

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^There's no way at all to run three trains on Hades, even if you, for example, sloped the final brake run to save the room that dip into the station takes up. There's a reason why Leviathan and Banshee have super-long brake runs, and it's because each one can hold probably four train lengths minimum - that's three blocks worth right there.

 

Just imagine if a train got stuck on the final brake run of Hades and (knowing Mt. Olympus) the next train just went on down the first drop as usual. Lawsuits for everyone!

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^There's no way at all to run three trains on Hades, even if you, for example, sloped the final brake run to save the room that dip into the station takes up.

 

Yup, that's why I added this

The only problem would be the short brake at the end - but that could be modified.

 

It would have to come in from a different angle (footprint wise, not vertically) than it does; something would have to be heavily modified. But it could be done. Point is, with such a long ride that contains a pre-lift section, it could lend itself to 3 trains.

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^There's no way at all to run three trains on Hades, even if you, for example, sloped the final brake run to save the room that dip into the station takes up.

 

Yup, that's why I added this

The only problem would be the short brake at the end - but that could be modified.

 

It would have to come in from a different angle (footprint wise, not vertically) than it does; something would have to be heavily modified. But it could be done. Point is, with such a long ride that contains a pre-lift section, it could lend itself to 3 trains.

 

 

Using RCT2 Terms (I know) The Station, Lift, and Brakes only allows 2 train operations.

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Still, 2 trains would be good. What if this park was bought out by Cedar Fair or Six Flags? As much as we criticize them, I would imagine they would do a better job of running the place. Of course, then where would Mt. Olympus go with their precious hotels?

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^^^The difference between two and three trains is drastically smaller than the difference between one and two, it would definitely not be worth it to heavily modify the ride to run three.

 

I don't think they ever test their rides before opening. I'm 100% sure our first train on Hades360 ERT was the first train of that day we visited. For those who wish to go there, Little Amerricka is better.

 

Hope that man will wake up from his coma.

 

 

Bay Beach is better than Mt. Olympus. At least they know wooden coasters can run 2 trains on purpose. I hope that man sues the park and I hope Mt. Olympus realizes the error of their ways.

 

Um, the guy could be dead by now for all we know. The place doesn't need to be sued, it needs to be shut down.

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If they do close down... I will sorely miss Cyclops.

I'd cope as that hill was insane, but the rest of the ride was pretty rough IMO.

If this would cause the closure of Mount Olympus (which I doubt), I really wouldn't expect the wooden coasters to go anywhere since most of them are built to their terrain. Cyclops is on a hillside, Zeus is somewhat the same, Hades360 is a mixture of hillside, tunnel and flat land, but Pegasus might have potential, but I really don't know who could want it as it would probably need all new wood.

I would kind of miss the water park as the indoor slides and Poseidon's Revenge were fun.

As much as I hate people suing the parks over the stupidest crap, I think this situation would be justified considering it sounds like the park might be at fault for this.

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If they do close down... I will sorely miss Cyclops.

I'd cope as that hill was insane, but the rest of the ride was pretty rough IMO.

If this would cause the closure of Mount Olympus (which I doubt), I really wouldn't expect the wooden coasters to go anywhere since most of them are built to their terrain. Cyclops is on a hillside, Zeus is somewhat the same, Hades360 is a mixture of hillside, tunnel and flat land, but Pegasus might have potential, but I really don't know who could want it as it would probably need all new wood.

I would kind of miss the water park as the indoor slides and Poseidon's Revenge were fun.

 

Wasn't Pegasus built high up in the air to fit over an existing ride that isn't even there anymore? I thought I remember reading that.

 

As much as I hate people suing the parks over the stupidest crap, I think this situation would be justified considering it sounds like the park might be at fault for this.

 

Might be? The locking mechanism was stripped, causing the restraint to fail. What more evidence do you need?

 

It doesn't sound like some people are really getting the full picture here. This is NTAG all over again except the park is unambiguously 100% responsible.

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Wasn't Pegasus built high up in the air to fit over an existing ride that isn't even there anymore? I thought I remember reading that.

 

As much as I hate people suing the parks over the stupidest crap, I think this situation would be justified considering it sounds like the park might be at fault for this.

 

Might be? The locking mechanism was stripped, causing the restraint to fail. What more evidence do you need?

 

I think it was, but if I remember correctly, that ride is built on some of the flattest land in the park.

 

I was being cautious with my statement considering that something could be released that could actually blamed on something else. Take the NTAG accident for example. No need to be defensive.

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^I don't mean to come across as defensive. I'm just a little upset about this because to me, this is as big if not a bigger deal than NTAG, and yet it hasn't made headlines anywhere outside the local media, and isn't getting as much attention online. It doesn't seem right. Almost like some kind of conspiracy in the industry to avoid any more bad publicity, or something. Also, NTAG was more complicated because the restraint didn't fail. In this case it did, so the park maintenance staff is clearly responsible.

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Some article highlights worth mentioning.

TL;DR Mt. Olympus sucks at running their park.

 

The state’s Department of Safety and Professional Services found several violations and ordered Mt. Olympus to replace defective and worn parts and components on its Opa Roller Coaster and to change its maintenance and training procedure following a roller coaster accident March 6 that injured a 63-year-old man.
The DSPS ordered Mt. Olympus to do the following:

-Ensure that proper maintenance and inspection procedures are completed as required by the manufacturer. Ensure that all safety bulletins that have been issued for the ride have been reviewed and that any changes that are required have been made.

-Replace defective and/or worn components

-Ensure that ride is not operated with tubs exceeding capacity limits. The limit is 660 pounds

-Ensure that employee training is recorded.

“We observed and noted that the lap bar on the far left side of yellow tub #6 (looking at the tub from the front) would not lock in place. While inspecting the components of the far left lap bar we noted that the locking teeth and pawls were not locking properly and that the mechanisms and components appeared to have wear.”

 

Hammond and Noltemeyer returned to the theme park on March 11 when a representative of the coaster manufacturer, Zamperla, was on site. The tub was not disassembled then, but the Zamperla representative told the inspectors of a “bulletin specific to lap bar maintenance and inspection.”

The report from Hammond concludes, “With cooperation and assistance from the owner and the manufacturer, our investigation determined that components of the lap bar system were defective and/or worn, which resulted in the lap bar malfunction. The manufacturer confirmed that the lap bar and components were properly installed and assembled. Inspection and analysis was completed by the manufacturer representatives on the 12 lap bars in the venue area. It was noted that 11 out of 24 pawls skipped, resulting in four total lap bar failures. It should be noted that the weight restriction for passengers is a total of 660 lbs. The estimated weight of passengers at the time of the incident was a total of 720 lbs.”
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