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Fatal accident at La Feria Chapultepec Magico


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https://www.forbes.com.mx/reportan-accidente-en-juego-de-la-feria-de-chapultepec/?fbclid=IwAR0q9jj0mjQxKiSvWmUTZq9OGUdRj9AfJpekzkfIoQJjYx8TNyDCsa6DkBw

 

Translation: On September 28, an accident was reported in one of the mechanical games of La Feria de Chapultepec, in Mexico City, called "Chimera."

 

Two people died and five more were injured, according to data from the Attorney General's Office in Mexico City.

 

"Inside the area of ​​the game known as 'Chimera' are two bodies (male between 25 and 30 years), who lost their lives to fall from one of the cars of the aforementioned game, which suffered a mechanical failure", reported the System of Protection and Restoration for Mexico City.

 

"The Triage was established in the western part of the fair (parking lot), where two women between 25 and 30 years old were evaluated, who were transferred to Mocel Hospital by ambulances 30 of CR and 5 of PC," he added.

 

On its Twitter, the Attorney General's Office of Mexico City informed that the Expert Services and the Investigation Police are at the scene of the accident and carrying out the corresponding procedures.

 

 

At the moment, the evacuation of all those attending the Chapultepec Fair is carried out.

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Picture of the accident. Last car derailed.

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Wow. I just rode it in July. Back then I thought felt super sketchy but in a fun exciting way. Definitely will make me think twice now.

 

And they weren't letting anyone ride in the back car - which seems like the one that derailed first.

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So it derailed just like the Edmonton ride did? Makes me think Mr. Anton might have had some design flaws in his trains...

 

 

I don't think Anton Schwarzkopf is to blame for the accident. I believe the park aren't taking care of their rides very well. Look at how rusty the track, and that amusement is sketchy at best. It just bothers me why would anyone in their right mind to go to that park when Six Flags Mexico, a superior park to La Feria is 8 miles away.

 

Edit: Grammar.

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So it derailed just like the Edmonton ride did? Makes me think Mr. Anton might have had some design flaws in his trains...

 

 

I don't think Anton Schwarzkopf is to blame for the accident. I believe the park aren't taking care of their rides very well. Look at how rusty the track, and that amusement is sketchy at best. It just bothers me why would anyone in their right mind to go to that park when Six Flags Mexico, a superior park to La Feria is 8 miles away.

 

Edit: Grammar.

Two very similar rides seem to derail the same way and that doesn’t make you wonder? I mean I don’t know for sure but I’m a fairly educated person in the theme park world and that would be my best guess. You are aware that “rusty track” is actually NOT a sign of poor maintenance, right?

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Indeed, but judging on the derailed car picture, in my opinion, I think poor maintenance on the park part were to blame. Remember what happened on Fujin Raijin II where the park hadn't replaced axles for 15 years. That's what likely happened on Quimera.

Can you please explain to us all how much experience you have maintaining amusement park rides that you can make that assessment looking at a photo & video?

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Well, when a ride is maintained properly, they just don't fly off the track. I don't have experience in maintaining amusement rides, but I do know a lot about it. Roller coasters need their wheels replaced a lot, and some coaster like Millennium Force has special wheels due to their high speed, and to help reduce wears on the wheels. During the off-season, the cars are inspected through and looked for any defects. If a defect is found, they will be fixed. Disassembly of the cars/trains are pretty much required during the off-season. If you have been to an off-season tour, which I believe you been to before, you can see the park are taking care of their rides during the off-season. Sometime, they might evaluate a decision during the off-season to remove a ride, like what Kings Dominion did with Volcano: The Blast Coaster. I am somewhat similar to you in a way because I know a lot about amusement parks, and watching your videos, and looking on RCDB.com, and watching roller coasters video, and following PTC facebook page, where they post picture of disassembly of roller coaster trains for overhaul during the off-season.

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The Mindbender accident was due to lack of proper maintenance on the axles. That has been well documented. I read something years ago about the manuals being in German, so the Canadian staff could not translate them properly and did not do proper maintenance. Not sure about this tragedy. It is interesting it happened on a similar ride though.

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So it derailed just like the Edmonton ride did? Makes me think Mr. Anton might have had some design flaws in his trains...

 

I thought Quimera and Mindbender are the two best Schwarzkopfs. That being said, two accidents on two very similar rides is probably not a coincidence.

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I think maintenance plays a factor, but obviously we have to look at something here if two VERY similar rides by the same manufacturer both have deadly accidents in the same way.

According to Michael Pantenburg at Schwarzkopf Coaster Net, Mindbender's problems were twofold.

 

First, it was apparently manufactured with substandard materials by "Schwarzkopf GmbH", which was a company founded after Anton Schwarzkopf's own company went bankrupt the first time. Schwarzkopf himself was apparently only a consultant and therefore not involved in manufacturing decisions. Second, the mall only did visual inspections on the cars as opposed to taking them out for "true" maintenance service or having them looked over by TUV (renowned German safety inspectors for rides). Plus, the maintenance manuals were apparently never translated either.

 

Apparently Mindbender's incident was due to loose bolts, so the wheel assembly fell off of the train. The most recent posted image of Quimera looks like something may have completely sheared off. Quimera also opened in 1984, a year before Mindbender, which was technically during Schwarzkopf's bankruptcy and the existence of that spin-off company, so perhaps it fell victim to the manufacturing corner-cutting, and who knows if its own maintenance manuals were ever translated into Spanish.

 

Personally, with what little concrete information we have, I wouldn't put the blame on Schwarzkopf the man himself, but on either the park, or whomever was involved in that post-bankruptcy company that tried to save a few bucks at the factory.

 

Schwarzkopf's bankruptcies are the reason why all of Schwarzkopf's coasters after WEM's Mindbender were built by BHS (now Maurer Rides) and / or Zierer, with Schwarzkopf still designing them.

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Well, when a ride is maintained properly, they just don't fly off the track. I don't have experience in maintaining amusement rides, but I do know a lot about it. Roller coasters need their wheels replaced a lot, and some coaster like Millennium Force has special wheels due to their high speed, and to help reduce wears on the wheels. During the off-season, the cars are inspected through and looked for any defects. If a defect is found, they will be fixed. Disassembly of the cars/trains are pretty much required during the off-season. If you have been to an off-season tour, which I believe you been to before, you can see the park are taking care of their rides during the off-season. Sometime, they might evaluate a decision during the off-season to remove a ride, like what Kings Dominion did with Volcano: The Blast Coaster. I am somewhat similar to you in a way because I know a lot about amusement parks, and watching your videos, and looking on RCDB.com, and watching roller coasters video, and following PTC facebook page, where they post picture of disassembly of roller coaster trains for overhaul during the off-season.

 

No offense, but none of that makes you qualified to know what happened based upon looking a photo. Robb knows all of that already. That doesn't mean it could not have been caused by a bad part or an engineering problem.

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Well, when a ride is maintained properly, they just don't fly off the track. I don't have experience in maintaining amusement rides, but I do know a lot about it. Roller coasters need their wheels replaced a lot, and some coaster like Millennium Force has special wheels due to their high speed, and to help reduce wears on the wheels. During the off-season, the cars are inspected through and looked for any defects. If a defect is found, they will be fixed. Disassembly of the cars/trains are pretty much required during the off-season. If you have been to an off-season tour, which I believe you been to before, you can see the park are taking care of their rides during the off-season. Sometime, they might evaluate a decision during the off-season to remove a ride, like what Kings Dominion did with Volcano: The Blast Coaster. I am somewhat similar to you in a way because I know a lot about amusement parks, and watching your videos, and looking on RCDB.com, and watching roller coasters video, and following PTC facebook page, where they post picture of disassembly of roller coaster trains for overhaul during the off-season.

 

No offense, but none of that makes you qualified to know what happened based upon looking a photo. Robb knows all of that already. That doesn't mean it could not have been caused by a bad part or an engineering problem.

 

 

 

 

I agree with you. That doesn't make me qualified, but the accident made me interested in safety, and maintenance of amusement rides. I just spoke out my thoughts about what caused the accident. We don't know what caused the accident, but the poor maintenance is my speculation.

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No offense, but none of that makes you qualified to know what happened based upon looking a photo. Robb knows all of that already. That doesn't mean it could not have been caused by a bad part or an engineering problem.

Right. This exactly. I'm not saying it wasn't due to poor maintenance or even a design flaw. I am not skilled or educated enough either. But what I'm saying is that you shouldn't make posts saying that "I've looked at pictures of roller coasters on the internet so that makes me qualified to say it is poor maintenance."

 

I will be very interested to see what the report after the investigation shows, if we ever get such a report.

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